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DG_ThenNowForever

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  1. Perhaps not the best choice of words, but you get my point. The NFL's pricing creates a secondary market that's extremely easy for people to participate in. I think that's obvious.
  2. Hardly. Just because a market exists for knock off items, it doesn't mean that the original item is priced too high. It means that people who want the real thing can't or won't spend the money to get it. A 2L of Coke at $1.79 is not overpriced simply because there are people who think Big K Cola tastes exactly the same and costs $.79. Now, if Big K becomes the #1 selling brand at that price point with that recipe, then you would have something. But as long as people continue to buy authentic jerseys at the prices they are at now, there isn't any black market justification for a price reduction. And I know you know that just because something is popular doesn't make it good or right. Especially in America. Using your example, if a knockoff jersey were $45 and a real jersey were $75, I bet more people would buy the real authentic. Maybe not enough to maintain Reebok and the NFL's tiered jersey pricing system (where the cheap, screen-printed jersey is the $75 offering), but probably enough to still turn a profit. Similarly, if Coca-Cola were $5 for a 2 liter, I bet you'd see you Big K doing a lot better. All I'm saying is that the NFL aids and abets the knockoff industry by pricing people out of the authentic market. We can argue all day long that people don't have a right to a jersey -- you'll get no disagreement from me! But people scoffing at $300 jerseys at Champs are instead looking to eBay and finding what they want at a price they're willing to pay. Again, I'm not justifying purchasing illegal jerseys. I'm just saying that Reebok and the NFL are partly responsible for them being so readily available.
  3. This is ridiculous. Yes, the jerseys are worth $300 if that what the market decides. If people are willing to pay $300 for them, that is what they are worth. And it absolutely is a black market. Just because some people sell them out in the open, like my dumbass friend who last year wrote on his truck windows "STANLY CUP JERSEY'S $40" [sic], doesn't mean it isn't a black market. People who get caught selling counterfeit merchandise go to jail. This has been my only contention in this thread -- if fakes are so readily available and as popular as they are, then clearly, the market has decided that $300 for an authentic NFL jersey is too much.
  4. Indicative? Sure. A justification for funding illegal activity by buying bootlegs? Hell no. A justification of sorts: this is the true market response to an artificially controlled market.
  5. Boy, there's a lot of "I disagree, sir. Also, go yourself" in this thread. I'm not normally a thread nanny, but can we bring the discourse up a bit here? Anyway, yes, in part, there's a disconnect between the prices of goods and the purchasing power of people those goods are being marketed to. I think -- and I'm pretty sure I've said it before in this thread -- that the proliferation of counterfeit jerseys (especially NFL jerseys) is indicative of how far out of whack the supply (especially price) is to demand (especially willingness to pay).
  6. Because over the past 30 years, real wages have gone down and commodity prices have gone up.
  7. Right. And in the meantime, people turn to eBay or whatever, think they found a deal, and off they go. Until the NFL gets serious about its prices and quality, this is the reality of NFL merchandise purchasing. And if the NFL doesn't care (as evidenced by their lack of aggression in shutting these sites down), perhaps you (the collective you) shouldn't either. EDIT: I should say that I don't own any counterfeit jerseys. I do own several, legit replica NHL jerseys, but those were purchased at steep discount. I won't support the price gouging of the major professional sports leagues by paying full price.
  8. The NFL charges too much for a terrible product and the market has responded accordingly. There are tons of free market warriors on this board -- I would imagine this would be example A of how markets work. Chinese manufacturers have provided an alternative to the official, overpriced NFL jerseys (and we're only talking about the terrible replicas) and, given the attendees at NFL games, people are buying them. I guess the NFL is still making enough on their official versions not to care, but I wonder how long that will be the case. I'll also say that you don't see this same problem as much with other sports. This is in part due to popularity of the NFL, but I think it has more to do with price. NHL replicas are pretty close in quality to the real thing and are a better value at their price point. NBA authentics seem kind of pointless to me and replicas are good enough. I don't know enough about MLB replicas, but they seem to be more or less in the same boat as the NHL.
  9. These are among my all-time favorite NFL uniforms:
  10. Wow. Oh come on, that was kind of funny. It's the internet... we're just playing. I meant "Wow" in the "Wow. You got him so good he should probably just give it up and go home," and not in the "Wow, you're a jerk" sense. There's putdowns, and then there's definitive putdowns. Nice work is all. And in order to keep this mildly on topic, here's Andre the Giant on an ATV:
  11. And we're finally in position to have a 12-team Big Ten and a 10-team Big XII. Wonderful.
  12. b-b-b-b-but the Lofty Academic Standards ...aren't as important as crushing the Big XII. Who would have guessed?
  13. Huh. Some combination of the best of the ACC and the best of the Big East could create a megaconference that could compete with an expanded Pac 16, Big 16, and SEC, uh, 16. I don't want to get into REEL LINE MINT, but Louisville, Syracuse, UConn and Pitt might find themselves well taken care of in the new collegiate sports landscape after all. Of course, again, college basketball is ruined, but then it doesn't make the same amount of money football does, does it?
  14. Is there any possibility of doing football-only conferences, with the "traditional" conferences remaining for the other sports? I know it's highly unlikely, but these shifts pretty well ruin college basketball.
  15. They join what's left of the Big East and become the Big Losers conference. And no, that's not anything I'm rooting for.
  16. Everything west of Minneapolis and St. Louis is a vast wasteland. Dem's ignant fightin' words.
  17. Actually, I think several people would think a tournament in flyover country is indeed a step down from playing at MSG.
  18. It actually begs the question -- which uniform should Terrell be associated with? He was good on the 49ers, but he wasn't a super-duper star until the Eagles. And while he was a big deal both there and in Dallas, it always felt like he played more for Terrell Owens than for any team whose uniform he wore. It's kind of like Randy Moss, but on a different scale. At this point, what team should Moss be associated with? Probably the Vikings, but it feels like forever since he's played there.
  19. They'd be awful plain now, but I really liked those Mavericks uniforms. I thought they were clean, colorful, and classy. If only every team that wore them didn't stink.
  20. Sure, just like this one: Although, not so much "wrong" as "different."
  21. Love your column, Mr. Simmons. But I didn't realize you were such a fan of sports logos and uniforms!
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