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  1. My thoughts exactly, you need to see the whole uniform or it doesn't make sense which is what was weird with this reveal. They look so much better seeing the full set. And while the jersey is oversized, I will say, I wish at any point in my life I looked even half as manly as the Kraken jersey model! Dude is just working on a commercial fishing vessel without breaking a sweat!
  2. Liberty Bell Jerseys is a customizer who has created a fair number of unique jerseys and has a good following on the socials. Looks like they've created a new pride jersey they've been teasing based on their latest post.
  3. This kind of ties in to the post above, but I was looking at my local WHL team Portland Winter Hawks team store yesterday and I would say the bulk of their classic logo items are on clearance. Authentic jerseys of both home and away are on sale as are replicas and nearly anything with their classic logo on it. They've been using a roundel with the letter P in a lot of ads for the the last few years. There was some speculation when they unveiled a new third jersey in Feb of 2020 that the change was coming. Adidas created a whole new set of logos to go with it (link below). They were supposed to wear the jersey in March of 2020 but with all that's happened, I do not believe it ever saw the ice. For the abbreviated 2021 season, their center ice logo which has usually been the logo similar to the Blackhawks was replaced with one of the new alternate logos that is a rose bud with a P in it. I'd venture a guess we're going to see the new hawk logo replace the old one. I'm curious if they keep the Blackhawks sweaters and then still have the all black alternate uniform, or if that alternate is the basis for their new look and we get a white version to match. Nothing has been announced, but with new ownership taking over this year, I think its probably more like than not there is a new look in Portland. https://winterhawks.com/article/winterhawks-and-adidas-announce-new-alternate-crest-and-third-jersey
  4. I don't know how I missed this. I've been a big Winterhawks fan my whole life but haven't been as attentive since moving away. I agree with your assessment that this is where they are going for a new logo sooner than later. I feel like they've been looking for options for a while now. They had the "Hawk Eyes" logo which makes an appearance on this hawk logo if I'm not mistaken. Also, great use of the 4 feathers in there. This kind of reminds me of that blackhawks "hawk" concept that shows up quite frequently. They've used the white, red, black Winterhawk logo (seen in the puck above) for print and ads and more recently using the roundel with the P on billboards and ads. I would also argue you probably wouldn't get a full new logo and additional marks like shoulder logos if you weren't looking at options for a full rebrand. That rose is clever too. Big fan of that. This jersey was used for one weekend this year, I see it as the alternate next year and then maybe two or three years the full time look. I hope that red is the primary when that day comes as the all black seems like it should be the alternate.
  5. Could it be that the area on the chest we assume the suppler opposite the XFL logo is a place for a sponsor patch/advertisement? You could still do branding on the sleeve/shoulders as Nike currently does in the NFL if/once a branding partner is announced. It's also kind of funny how 25 years ago or so, brands weren't on jerseys and when the logo creeps started to happen people were against them and we've eventually accepted them. Now when a league doesn't have a manufacture logo on the jersey, we're all freaking out!
  6. And moving into a brand new stadium that same year. Fun fact, the Seahawks joined the NFL in the NFC West in 1976 and the Buccaneers joined in the AFC West the same year. The Seahawks then moved the AFC West and the Bucs to the NFC Central. This realignment was dictated by the league as part of the 1976 expansion plan, so that both teams could play each other twice and every other NFL franchise once during their first two seasons. Thanks Wikipedia! Additionally, this was kind of the first opportunity for the new Paul Allen leadership to do anything to the uniforms since taking over the team in 1997. With Allen only purchasing the team if the referendum to build a new stadium passed, it make the most logical sense as the time to rebrand under new ownership. I like what you've done here OldSchoolVkings.
  7. I must say, this thread, as a whole, is fantastic. The design elements and presentation are awesome, but I really dig the historical thought process and information presented and how it all ties together. Such a solid idea with great execution and so much research done. I'm fascinated by sports relocation and what could have been and really enjoying your take. I've also learned so much I had no idea about. I consider myself a pretty big Seattle fan and know about the M's and Seahakws almost leaving in the 90s but was unaware of the White Sox/Athletics swap of the 1960s. All things equal, I think I'd take Griffey, Edgar, Ichiro, Randy, Bunher and the rest than take over the White Sox (but as the Athletics) history, including the 05 World Series. Griffey made me a sports fan and I'm not sure it would have been the same otherwise. I knew about Opening Day II but had seen very little about it and definitely hadn't seen those photos before and glad someone finally made a digital rendering of the Seattle script. And that Tampa Mariners logo from 1992...how do I get that on a t-shirt?! (Same is true for the Anaheim Seahawks, but I digress). I just ordered the Stadium for Rent book you recommended and excited to dig even deeper. Again, really enjoying this both visually and as a history lesson.
  8. I'm not totally convinced that's a prototype. I could be 100% wrong, but my gut tells me it's not. First, when I saw this, this reminded me of some of the early China knockoff jersey styles. You could get Oilers, Flames, Blackhawks, and others on this template that were all fake if my memory serves and i feel like this was one you could get. They used air knit type material too. This jersey is also a CCM branded jersey, which could very well be how they handled prototypes, but at the time, KOHO was the branding on the 3rd/dark jerseys. By the tagging, its a replica, which should have additional branding on the right sleeve as well as an NHL puck logo embroidered on the right rear hem. Speaking of the hem, the hem looks to only be an inch or so. Back in the day, those were closer to 3" if I recall correctly. Finally, from the picture the tagging in the neck is sewn with 4 diagonal lines, when replicas had the tag sewn in vertically on either side. Again, I could be wrong but my initial instinct is this is either a fake or a fan creation and the branding was added on.
  9. It's very inserting to see over a 25 year period how much they have changed. Wish that B's ring had a little color to it.
  10. Looking at the mock up here, I feel like there are two different teams going on here. The hat (which is beautiful) doesn't match up with the home jersey. It's like they are the Mariners farm club at home (minus the cap), half of a Mariners affiliate on the road (the navy with teal names and navy with red numbers don't work for me) and then the classic Rainiers in the alternate and BP jersey. Not sure what that BP hat is, but looks more appropriate for a team with a gold rush miner type theme. I wish they had either gone with full Mariners theme for home and road then the red alternate or all red and white (and navy too, if need be). As an M's fan, I would love to see a navy hat with a silver "R" outlined in teal if they are trying to do the Mariners thing. Also, looking at the team shop, I don't think the hats they have are the 2015 game hats. They have had multiple styles of the "R" hat online for a year or so now (and all their cool throwbacks). Also the way the 2015 BP hat is listed makes me think none of the "R" hats are Poly 5950s but rather wool customs they've had for a bit now.
  11. That's a great find, I oddly love that blocky/angled Seattle word mark. This is the second time I've heard something about an AL specific hat rule recently from back in the day, the other variation I heard was that the AL didn't allow white crowned caps, which would make sense based on the Orioles observation above.
  12. I have to say I think it is kind of a down grade for the IronPigs. I liked the brick pig logo hat they had before better. This kind of feels like random ideas rather than one identity.
  13. Saw this picture of Richard Sherman and was kind of shocked. He's going around spreading holiday cheer, but wearing a counterfeiter jersey he presumably got off ebay. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link to the whole thing http://www.richardsherman25.com/?utm_campaign=video20131230&utm_source=fb&utm_medium=social#foundation
  14. is it just me or does the visor look to be screwed upside down? Shouldn't that hole at the top be be the "nose indentation"? You are correct on that. I think it could be a way to keep the visor from fogging up as there is a bigger hole at the top. I'm not sure of this, but a common problem with visors, so the noes hole being up top would provide more ventilation. You can sometimes see players do this with the Oakley Pro Straight cut visors so it doesn't go down just a little in front of their face.
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