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  1. So what you are saying is... assuming Colorado bolts for the PAC-10 (11), the 2 most likely contenders for the Big XII to reestablish at 12 teams would be Colorado State and Utah State. Anyone else have thoughts on this scenario?
  2. Rewinding a bit when the whole Conference Realignment started, let me lay out a scenario: Nebraska joins the Big Ten, bringing the Big Ten to 12 teams and the Big XII to 11 teams.The PAC-10 extends invites to Colorado and Utah.Utah accepts, bringing the PAC-10 to 11 teams.Colorado remains loyal to the Big XII, remaining at 11 teams.The Big XII does NOT invite West Virginia, in favor of regional expansion/loyalty.What would be the most likely scenario concerning Utah State, Colorado State, and Brigham Young? Would Utah push the PAC-10 (11) to add Utah State?Would Colorado push the Big XII (11) to add Colorado State?Would the PAC-10 be more interested in adding a "national" brand like Brigham Young?Would Brigham Young entertain the PAC-10 if the Big XII doesn't come calling?Would the Big XII prefer to expand into a different state/territory and add Utah State or Brigham Young?Would the PAC-10 prefer to expand into different state/terriroty and add Colorado State?Are there 2 other Universities that would be more likely to bring the PAC-10 (11) to 12 teams and the Big XII (11) back to 12 teams?
  3. This is probably the worst cliche in all of sports. Its a competition. Competitions don't end in ties. Even if its 1200 minutes. Do baseball teams not deserve to win after 12 innings? Should they just end in a tie? At least a tie can be justified in baseball because its 1 of 162. When you only play 16 football games, there should ALWAYS be a winner and a loser. No excuses.
  4. Looking for the Ohio State Buckeyes Pro Combat/Rivalry uniform numbers/font:
  5. Just to give you another point of reference- Two things - Old-school Falcons in red in the background, and HOW EFFING BEAUTIFUL ARE THOSE ORANGE PANTS!?!? and those white facemasks... trolololololol Gray facemask is the way to go with the Browns. No questions asked. Let's get ready to rumble... I love the grey facemasks for the Browns and I loathe the orange pants. *heel turn* I not only love the orange pants AND the grey facemask, but I also think they MUST include the classic stripes somewhere on the sleeves similar to what the Bears did. *eye gouge* I new stable is forming... and we got 2 words for ya!
  6. I don't think Oregon State wears gray. Nike gave them black, orange, and gold (SF Giants-esque). Could be wrong. That's correct. You guys are right, its more of a copper/golden color. I guess I was trying to say that the right color of orange plays well with a more neutral color, like gray/gold/copper etc. when the third color is a darker tone like black/brown. I am just anticipating seeing some sort of new color injected in to these uniforms, a part from different shades of orange and brown that they are currently wearing. Could see like a metallic "rust" color...tie into the whole rust belt thing I'm sure Nike would come up with some charming name for it too... Rust: a reddish- or yellowish-brown flaky coating of iron oxide that is formed on iron or steel by oxidation, especially in the presence of moisture. Nike: "Cleveland's new uniforms shed the monicker of a Rust Belt City with the infusion of silver, polishing off the rust, to display strong, proud iron. No longer will Cleveland be known as the Mistake on the Lake... but The Lock Down on the Lake." ...or some other BS that Nike thinks is so witty and clever.
  7. Can someone please explain why all the sleeves stripes are neutered now that Nike has taken over? I don't understand why the sleeve stripes can't be moved up to show the full width of the stripes (Steelers). Is there a rule/regulation stating that the manufacturing company logo MUST be on the primary color of the jersey, unimpeded by logo, stripe, or design? It drives me insane. Can anyone help?
  8. To be honest, I don't think they look THAT similar. A case could be made for far more NFL teams with "classic" or "timeless" uniforms that look a lot more similar than Jacksonville and Tampa Bay. Numbers - yes, Jax and TB both have pointed serifs, but they look far less similar to each other compared to about 20+ other teams in the NFLPants Stripe - One has the top point directed to the back of the pants, the other has point towards the front. One pant stripe is 2 colors, the other is 3 colors. One extends down to the socks, the other does not. Do I really even need to compare this to the Saints, Browns, Cowboys, Packers, Bears, Bills, Texans, Titans, 49ers, Redskins, and Chiefs (The only difference being color and MAYBE stripe thickness)?The jersey designs are very different... but don't need to go in to that.Just because these uniforms are new doesn't mean they are bolt on changes like we have seen somewhat in college. Uniforms from the "glory years" or the traditional styles are wayyy more similar in nature than the Jaguars and Buccaneers are. Nike has a very clear vision of what they want. They want the uniforms to translate well on TV. That is their motivating factor. That is why so many of the rebrands in the college ranks are so minimalistic or oversize (FSU's pattern on the sleeves).
  9. I don't think Oregon State wears gray. Nike gave them black, orange, and gold (SF Giants-esque). Could be wrong. That's correct. You guys are right, its more of a copper/golden color. I guess I was trying to say that the right color of orange plays well with a more neutral color, like gray/gold/copper etc. when the third color is a darker tone like black/brown. I am just anticipating seeing some sort of new color injected in to these uniforms, a part from different shades of orange and brown that they are currently wearing.
  10. I don't think there is any question that some sort of gray/silver is going to be added to the color scheme. Nike has been pushing the "anthracite" colors for a few years now. The gray has already looked good with numerous other teams with orange and a dark brown/black color (Oklahoma State, Oregon State). I just hope the uniforms match. I don't want to see orange helmet with white shirt and brown pants... and then an orange helmet with brown shirt and orange pants. I like when uniforms have consistency and unity. I doubt we will see that, though. As for the discussion of the orange helmet with white shirt, white pants, and white socks... I agree, it looks bad. But I think that is mostly due to a boring shade of orange. If they team moved to a brighter, more candy, popping orange, I think the uniforms would look a lot better... not great... but better.
  11. Word locally is that the new uniforms tested very well both on TV and in person. Take it for what it's worth.
  12. I agree, Wiggins is getting tossed around right now, but the issue lies with the NBA's rule, not the Cavaliers. The Cavs have to do what they can to improve the team. If this trade is agreed upon, having a 30 day waiting period is doing more damage to Wiggins than the Cavs trading him. That being said, I think that this trade will only help Wiggins. One of the many issues with Wiggins is his lack of motivation, getting lost out on the floor, and lackadaisical attitude. Hopefully for Minnesota's sake, it motivates him to get in the gym, develop a jump shot and develop his left hand so he can be a true star in this league.
  13. I'm more annoyed that the Cavs are doing whatever the Wolves want. Anytime a team is giving away a star player they can't expect to get "equal or greater" value in return. Why should Cleveland have to give up 2 first rounders, 2 #1 overall picks (Bennett and Wiggins) and Waiters? When no other team can even offer anything close. Love may be a star, but I wouldn't gut the team for 1 player. Love could walk and leave Minnesota with nothing. They should be happy to get anything. I get berated every time I bring up this point. Sure Waiters and Bennett aren't going to be stars - but very nice role players - and I give Wiggins about a 25%- chance of being a superstar (LeBron, Durrant, Kobe, George level). But its the scenario with Melo to NY. Everyone knew he was going to NY, he told people it was NY or bust... yet the Knicks gave up everything to get him before the offseason. I get wanting to be able to control Love and the contract, but there is a lot of money coming off the Cavs books' next season. It may not be a FULL max contract, but it will be damn close where they can swing something with some of their other young players' salaries (Thompson, Bennett, Waiters).
  14. Are any other Cavs fans a bit worried about the Miami model that the Cavs are going with? I get that Love is an upgrade over Bosh and that Kyrie is equal or better than Wade, currently. But the Cavs have now signed Mike Miller, James Jones and are looking to bring in Ray Allen... 3 guys who didn't really get it done in Miami the last 2 years (LeBron carried the Heat 2 years ago). Everything I am hearing is the Minnesota/Cleveland trade is actually a 3-team trade with Philadelphia as the 3rd team. Minnesota is said to like Thadeus Young from the 76ers, and the 76ers are said to like Dion Waiters from the Cavs. It seems more likely to me that the trade goes as follows: CLEVELAND - Kevin Love, Keven MartinMINNESOTA - Andrew Wiggins, Thadeus Young, 2018 First Round Pick (Cavs)PHILADELPHIA - Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennet, 2017 First Round Pick (Cavs)
  15. Back on topic, the local CBS Sports Talk affiliate here in town, 92.3 The Fan, had team President Alec Scheiner on today, and he said that the team would be debuting new uniforms next season. Just to confirm, "next season" means the 2015-2016 season right?