I'm sorry. I really don't like to bring things to this board that aren't in a "close to being complete" state and this is no where close. It is his arm ... well half of it. I think that's his other arm but without a hand. yes. It ends with the beginning of the fore arm. I, again, don't like to bring uncomplete work here but I just needed some guidance. Yes - I really don't like to bring uncomplete work to this board - but I really needed guidance. I will work on hands asap. Thank you. I'm glad you like it in this early of a state... Wow. You are exactly right - thank you for this idea. I'm all about "balance" and harmonious designs. I think you are right. What do you think about it going horizontal ... and kind of behind the head? ... I'll have to reposition the eyes. This is something I'm going to have to "see" in order to "see" if I like it. I did this because I wanted "force" Thanks for the last compliment. I really want to perfect this. Someone else close to me said the same thing... but I looked at the current identity of the lightning... and it has none. And I don't think it needs one... I might make the stick a bolt - but this is the fundamental direction i want to go in. Thanks for the reply! and i'll have to play around with it a bit.