uniformity

Don't like the dated agency font and tired of yet another Canucks jersey. I don't think anyone is talking about this in Vancouver.

1 hour ago, nash61 said:

Worn with black socks, for some reason.

Should've been a gold and black jersey with gold socks

It seems a bit desperate that the Kraken are hosting an outdoor game and will play dress up wearing the uniforms of a team that locals have no real affinity for.

I cant believe we are having this discussion. The slug is a horrible logo. Universally panned when it debuted. Before today I dont think I had ever heard the screaming eagle logo taken down. Fans clearly like it.

12 hours ago, mjarvie said:

As much as I agree the word mark is bland and the weagle is not great, I just don't understand the love for the worst of their logos. That screaming eagle logos looks like some kid in grade school made it, and not one of the talented kids. So I do agree Washington needs a change, but something better than a bad grade school's kid attempt at an eagle.

People love the screaming eagle logo. This is evident by the fact that it was the fastest selling RR two years in a row. It is easily their best logo and would be a top NHL logo regardless of how bad their other logos are. The weagle is static and wide. The screaming eagle moves and looks like it's flying. That's why I like the logo. It doesn't need to be clever or realistic. Abstract is completely acceptable for a logo.

The Caps need to use the screaming eagle logo. The word mark and weagle are bland and pretty original. 

I think I like the Sharks RR Seals jerseys better than any uniform they've ever worn. The jerseys are gorgeous, and the colour scheme is unique. They look great on TV.

Idiosyncratic elements and tradition are what makes a team's uniforms. Its criminal that the Bruins switched to black socks in 2016 after using gold for 80 plus years. 

3 hours ago, Sport said:

I do think the Panthers look is pretty attractive, but ever since it was unveiled I was trying to put my finger on why it felt so familiar. 

 

 

Finally occurred to me today why I liked it so much

 

Much better than the Canadiens knock off red and blue with mid stripe they wear lately but not as good as their original unis with the arched numbers and leaping panther. Makes you wonder if they and the Lightning are trying to court all the Canadian snowbirds down there.

I see Toronto decided to pretend that in 62 they wore the same generic socks they wear today. Also just noticed that the RR is not a lace up like the original. is it too much to ask that the Leafs wear the same idiosyncratic triple stripe pattern socks and double hem stripes they donned when they were winning cups?

The Leafs are so bad at being themselves. It's been a total :censored: show since 1967. Ballard era, RBK minus hem stripes, black Bieber jerseys, centennial classic MTL knock offs, all white stadium series, etc. The current ones are a mess too with the single hem stripe and the bland Ballard era socks. Who is this team?

3 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

 

There’s a strong chance these other online people are incorrect. Which is weird, I know. 

I don't need to argue. I know the logo history very well and it doesn't look right. Others have commented about the same thing independently. Perhaps there is a strong bias on this board. Seems logical.

On 11/4/2022 at 9:51 PM, andrewharrington said:

What are you on about here? There’s like a single legitimate crest still around from this era on the entirety of the internet, and it’s what I used to draw the RR version (obviously, I had to take some liberties and use my own interpretation on some of the missing details and general cleanup, but you get the idea).
 

Sorry, I didn't expect an Annie Hall moment. I don't mean this personally towards you. It must be quite an honour to redesign such a significant and historic logo. Johnny Canuck has been at the centre of a branding debate for the last 50 years with this franchise.

Maybe I take this more seriously than I should but I am a long term fan of the Canucks so I am invested. This logo is important to me. I have researched and know the history of the WHL team quite well. Better than most people. I have collected hundreds of pictures of the team and have seen those uniforms. I know how that logo looked on their uniforms and in print materials.

This looks out of proportion to me. I am not the only person with this opinion who has commented online. I thought it was ok to post a comment here, since this is a forum where people talk about the minutiae of sports logos and uniforms.

3 hours ago, Survival79 said:

 

This is the RR logo.

 

The RR logo is obviously stretched. They probably took a photo of a crest from bad angle and copied it. The legs are clearly longer and the torso is tiny. It looks bad.

19 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

They didn't elongate the legs, though; the logo on the jersey is how it was in the WHL, which is what they're throwing back to.

It's absolutely not the same proportions with the torso and legs. Others have noticed it. And it looks bad.

Not a fan of the 40th anniversary pants striping. It looks busy and the green looks muddy. The Canucks uniforms looked better with the old socks and pants with stripes though.

After seeing the Canucks RR live its apparent that they screwed up the logo by elongating the legs. It looks ridiculous to me. The cream white against the green is not the best either.

Also curious about the Penguins winter classic jerseys. The Pirates P logo was black. Are they going to do a white version of that jersey?

On 10/29/2022 at 12:54 PM, Chromatic said:

 

Canucks full reverse retro uniform. I gotta say, it looks great in full gear.

How much better does this look than the Abbotsford Canucks with that modern logo and the green base? These are great. 

2 hours ago, VancouverFan69 said:

 

I knew  the Johnny Canuck Reverse Retro was going to look awesome and so far it's exceeded  my expectations...even in spite of the TD ad and no pants striping which was indeed the case in '62. I just love the contrast between the navy blue and kelly green.  

Canucks had pant stripes in 1962. Blue with red stripes around the opening of the pant leg and up the side. Not easily seen in grainy BW photos. Can't fault them for missing that detail on the RR. Wouldn't work as well with blue and green.

5 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

There's a lot of value in honoring the teams that came before you in any sport, especially when said team is as enormously important to hockey history as the Metropolitans were. It makes perfect sense for the Kraken to homage the first US team to ever win the Stanley Cup since, you know, they're effectively that team's successor.

 

The reason the Habs' jersey sucked wasn't because it was barberpole, it was because of how thin the lines were on that jersey which caused strain. The Metropolitans don't have that issue because the lines are much thicker;

And nobody has any qualms with the Ottawa 67's, who use a barberpole design just fine;

 

Hell, I remember many people on these very boards wanting the Senators to go back to their barberpole look full-time, as well.

Agree with the Senators Blackhawks and other red and black teams, but not with the Metropolitians green and red on a modern template. It just doesn't look good with that template and especially with the white pants that were originally worn. I have the same opinion about the Canucks wearing Millionaires uniforms. It's not a good look.

5 hours ago, kiwi_canadian said:

So something interesting from the Kraken. They will be introducing a thrid jersey for the 2023-24 season and there was a reason why the Metropolitians weren't used as a reverse retro.

 

https://twitter.com/AliMurji1/status/1586395334137483266?s=20&t=hQiyPk2-6SR62bPf_x-DKQ

Can't imagine why they'd want to wear Metropolitan sweaters. Green and red barberpole sweaters would look terrible on a modern template and would clash with the Krakens colour pallet. I think of how awful the Canadiens looked with their barberpole throwbacks. What reason is there for the Kraken to pretend they are the Metropolitans.

12 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said:

Johnny Canuck looks great on the sweater. 

As an aside, are the Canucks the only professional sports team named after a Superhero?

Team name has nothing to do with the comic superhero. It came from political cartoon figure Johnny Canuck and was meant to honour Canadian WW2 soldiers.

On 10/20/2022 at 4:41 PM, GriffinM6 said:

The only fix I'd make is to add a navy collar and outline to the yoke.

And the original logo.

15 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

Let's test that, shall we? How's about we look at photos of the crowds in Calgary and see if that holds up;

Plenty of black C jerseys here, wow. More than the retros, in fact. But it's just one, let's try to increase the sample size with another sample;

Huh. Also a lot more black C jerseys than retros. Ah, but it's just two photos, right? Let's keep going, maybe I'm missing some images.

Heck, let's throw in a photo from this past May;

....huh. You know, there's a lot more black C's in the Saddledome then I would've expected if the retros were so thoroughly obliterating them in terms of local popularity.

I count 17 black Cs to 12 retros in the last photo. It's definitely popular but it's hard to say what's more popular from a photo. Not every fan is going to go put and spend $400 on a new jersey right away. I think it's safe to say fans were not enamored with the edge jerseys and wanted a change. Without a survey we can't really say what they would want their team to wear on ice.

16 hours ago, JohnnyCowboy5 said:

Thats not even true. When Calgary had black C on jersey before retro. More fans had 3rd jersey at the time aka the retro jersey worn more by fans than the home jersey at home games.  I been to some games myself. Fans themselves like the retro jersey more. Dont know where you get your info saying people like black C more, but fans love retro look even more. I seen it first hand.

 

Flames fan wanted retro back full time. Retro or 3rd jersey at the time was outselling the home jersey at the time.  For you to say Flames fans like black C more isn't right. Where did you get your info from. I got mine from seeing at games and knowing the city sold more retro jersey then home. 

 

Yes I am fans myself.

I don't live in Calgary now but based on the ppl I know fans definitely wanted a return to and lobbied for the reverse retro. Its a bit of stretch to say that the 2004 jersey was massively more popular than it. It definitely was popular in 2004 because it replaced some pretty awful jerseys including the pedestal and the black horse head thing which didn't make a lot of sense as a home jersey. The edge jerseys were definitely a step backwards.

On 10/6/2022 at 10:05 PM, Tomkesler said:

https://www.nhl.com/kraken/news/2022-23-depths-members-to-receive-limited-edition-toque/c-336118658

 

"The striping up top is inspired by Seattle's hockey history and sets the course for new adventures that lie ahead ­- plus a sneak peek at future jersey releases."

 

Based on the article, it looks like these STH beanies are hinting at the striping pattern for the Kraken reverse retro jersey. The anchor might be a clue as well, but that isn't as obvious. 

 

The only pro Seattle hockey team known to use northwestern stripes was the Ironmen in the mid 40s. It was a generic logo-less uniform that they might of used for one season. The sweater was two colour had a number on the front and featured a white shoulder yolk with NW hem stripes. It was identical to that worn by dozens of minor league teams of that era.

If this is the uniform they are going back to its a bit similar to the Devils "Jersey" which made little sense in terms of local hockey history. I'm sure it can't look terrible but calling it historical is a bit revisionist.

If not the Metropolitans the team the Kraken should be remembering is the Seattle Totems. They had championships the greatest player in minor pro history and they were the biggest sport in town for much of their existence. The franchise also has a selection of unique and absolutely gorgeous uniforms to choose from.

It reminds me of their recent mascot debacle. Fans were saying this was an easy layup. Instead of picking a mascot that represents the team name they went with the equivalent of a sea pylon. So wrong but even the fans are pretenders.

its "tap in" not "lay up".