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  1. 1 hour ago, hormone said:

    Try being a Bucs fan wanting to see red over pewter and next year they have the throwbacks.

    The Buccaneers have always worn white no matter the scheme/logo far more than their dark uniforms. That's never going to change.

  2. 2 minutes ago, BBTV said:

     

    There's certainly a difference between a black Eagles uniform and a black Lakers uniform, but that doesn't mean that one is any more necessary or valid than the other.  They can both be bad / unnecessary / BFBS.

     

    I definitely think of the Eagles of the past 20 years as a (midnight) green and black team rather than as a green and silver team, but I still think that the black exists in the proportions it does strictly for merchandising purposes rather than to enhance the identity, and I'd absolutely consider their black alts a BFBS uniform.  BFBS doesn't necessarily mean "black when black isn't even one of your colors."

     

    Let's say that the early '90s Eagles, who had black number trim, black logo trim, black on their socks stripes, and black shoes, introduced a black jersey - would that be BFBS to you or anyone that's taking such a literal stance on the use of the term?  

     

    Like, pretend this wasn't just a fashion jersey - BFBS?
     

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    I owned a Sporting apparel store when these things came out and I sold a ton of these fashion jersey's, another massive success. 

  3. I'm really astonished by the level of self-righteousness that exists on this thread regarding counterfeit jerseys. I have bought counterfeit jerseys in the past, and am not particularly ashamed to admit it. I don't feel like I'm less of a 'true fan' because I've done this; supporting my team and being an athletics aesthetics enthusiast don't make me any more willing to drop literally hundreds of dollars on a jersey, no matter how close it is to what's worn on the field. In fact, I sort of feel that buying into the absurdly-overpriced authentic jersey trade fosters the idea that fandom is something that can be bought and sold. What I AM opposed to is when fans make an uneducated decision and buy a counterfeit accidentally - this reflects a lack of attention to aesthetic details that concerns me a lot more than people's unwillingness to spend big bucks on a glorified shirt.

    As for the intellectual property dilemma, in principle I agree that buying and selling counterfeits constitutes theft. But somehow I'm unable to find any remorse for my actions when they're harming Nike and Adidas, two immoral and exploitative companies that could easily diminish the counterfeit problem by lowering the prices of their products.

    That's fine, just remember that you can never again complain about your job getting outsourced or sent overseas. Same thing - workers in the US cost a lot, and as a consultant, if I can send your job to India or China, it saves the company a TON of money... which is totally cool, right?

    I mean, unions specifically, and US workers in general could bring down the "outsourcing issue" themselves, if they wanted, by lowering the price of their services (the work).

    Except for the only American people that make any money at the non-corporate people are the package handlers. All of the material and workmanship is done overseas on your officially liscensed products. Now of course the smaller mom and pop type of stores that sell these lose money due to the counterfeiting garbage. I WAS one of those type of stores, but I closed down in 2000 long before the counterfeiting thing was huge. Which is why I will never buy a counterfeit item, nor will I spend 30 dollars on a shirt that cost 4-6$ to produce and ship here.

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  4. You're telling me the Champion era replicas are the same quality as the current NBA replicas?

    Labor costs haven't gone up? Minimum wage has gone up from 5.25 in 2001 to 7.25 today. And yes, replica jerseys were printed in the United States by Reebok (not sure about Nike) So assuming all labor makes minimum wage in the US, that alone has gone up.

    You can defiantly argue that labor costs have not increased overseas and you may or may not be right, I don't know that for sure. But the costs have certainly gone up from the factory to the supplier.

    What about all the other cost increases I listed out? Should companies eat those?

    You think that where the NFL jersey's are made that there is a minimum wage? Not a chance.

  5. So assuming $45 in 2001 (which seems a bit low), 11 years of inflation it's about $60 which isn't that far from the $74.99 they were before last year.

    I think thats low cause Champion replica NBA jerseys were $40 in the early 90s cause I remember buying Shaq's rookie jersey for that in 1993.

    What items outside of electronics are the same prive they wete 12 years ago? Things can't stay the same price forever, inflection alone drives the price up but so does gas prices which have doubled since 2001, the cost of materials (cotton, poly, etc) which has gone up astronomically in the last couple years, the cost of doing business with the NFL has gone up too. Should companies just eat those increases?

    Except I would be willing to bet that labor cost has not risen very much if at all in those years. PLUS the quality has gone down hill. I still have 1995 Logo Athletic Bucs jersey's that have held up better than a 2010 Freeman jersey that my GF bought for herself. Bottom line is the cheaply made replica's that Reebok and Nike has made over the last 11 years are garbage. The quality of the product has gone down and that is all there is to it.

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