TheOldRoman

I know the wheels started in motion for the Expos' demise around 2001 or so (if not with the 94 strike), but do you think Bud regrets pushing the Expos to Washington now? It sure would have been nice if the Expos worked out their stadium deal to stay in Montreal. Then the Rays would have been free to move to Washinton, and the only bad stadium situation (outside of Toronto) would be Oakland.

A rumor I heard had Bud telling Montreal that if they build a stadium MLB would deliver a team immediately. There are many reasons why baseball could work in Montreal, with the Canadian dollar roughly equivalent to the American one, provided they aren't given another owner who is put in place by the commissioner to sabotage the team so they can be moved. It will be sad if it took a decade or so for Montreal to build a new stadium when that could have saved the original Expos, just like Cleveland and Houston building new stadiums after their footbal teams left. Of course, it's also sad that taxpayer dollars are being spent on such things to begin with.

Has there ever been an MLB stadium that supported two teams simultaneously? I wonder if someplace like DC, Atlanta or LA could add the Rays in an extant park. There many obvious obstacles to any of those cities, and scheduling would be a nightmare, but I'm just wondering if there's precedence to that kind of arrangement. The Cardinals played in Sportsman's Park while the Browns owned it.

But that's the beauty of the NHL! There are so many teams teetering on bankruptcy that Seattle need not worry if they actually build an arena. Miss out on the Coyotes and Blue Jackets? Try the Stars or Panthers! Couldn't get the Predators? Take the Islanders!

If true, that means either Glendale or the league has upped the guaranteed money the ownership group will get. Reinsdorf is a shrewd businessman, and he saw the other times he looked at the Coyotes that they were a money pit barring heavy subsidies. If he is looking again, things have gotten even more absurd than before. Think Glendale giving the Coyotes the entire arena and then buying it back from them for $300 million absurd.

I think he was joking that Bettman would toss them to Quebec as he did the Thrashers to Winnipeg to save his precious Coyotes, who were a far bigger problem than either team.

Ahem. 3.0

The numbers weren't moved to the other side until they added black in 1999. Aside from the quirk of the numbers being on that side, both sets of those uniforms were incredible.

Frank's Red Hot or Texas-style BBQ for me. This might sound weird but tartar sauce is my dip of choice for fries. That sounds gross. I've known people who dip their fries in mayo (I think that is a French thing?). I have tried the mayo thing before, and while it tastes good, I can't bring myself to regularly dip something deep-fried into something as fattening as mayo when catsup has no fat. Poutin, however? I would try that.

I love how you blindly support the crap that is provided by the leagues. The crap provided by the leagues, which everybody but you recognizes as superior quality to counterfeits, is not the issue. He didn't say he was supporting that, just that it is dumb to buy counterfeits. You know, it is possible to not own any jerseys at all.

No, you are stealing by knowingly purchasing stolen merchandise. And counterfeit jerseys are stolen in that they steal the identity from the teams and manufacturers. It is like buying a bootleg copy of Photoshop for $20 (albeit one which doesn't have all the features and crashes your system periodically). I mean, you wouldn't spend $1,000 to buy the software legitimately, so it isn't like Adobe is losing money, right? The NFL has money taken away from it because it has the right to X amount of dollars for every person wearing an NFL jersey. If you don't want to give them that money, don't wear the jersey. Disagree. Not stealing anything. Want to say the makers and sellers are stealing, I'll agree. I paid my money for an item. Like I said, I am not buying the knock-off instead of the licensed as I would not buy the licensed at their price if I couldn't find a good knock-off I wanted. I made a dead-on comparison which you completely ignored. If you bought a bootleg copy of Photoshop for $20, would it be stealing? Of course, you wouldn't have paid $1,000 for a legit copy, so you could argue you weren't stealing money from Adobe as you wouldn't have given it to them to begin with. Installing pirated software on your computer is a crime and so is knowingly purchasing a counterfeit jersey.

Honestly, that's not bad at all for $20. That is my argument, why would I pay $80 for a replica that will fall apart after two washes when I can get these for $20. That isn't true at all. I have owned replica jerseys from each of the 4 sports. I have NEVER had one fall apart, including ones which I would wear almost once a week when I was a kid. If you did in fact have a replica fall apart after two wears (which you didn't, you just made that up to make your argument better), you should have returned it to the store you bought it from and gotten a new one. On the other hand, I know people who have knock-off jerseys and have seen those fall apart and/or become horribly discolored after two washes.

No, you are stealing by knowingly purchasing stolen merchandise. And counterfeit jerseys are stolen in that they steal the identity from the teams and manufacturers. It is like buying a bootleg copy of Photoshop for $20 (albeit one which doesn't have all the features and crashes your system periodically). I mean, you wouldn't spend $1,000 to buy the software legitimately, so it isn't like Adobe is losing money, right? The NFL has money taken away from it because it has the right to X amount of dollars for every person wearing an NFL jersey. If you don't want to give them that money, don't wear the jersey.

But who cares! You're a fan of a team, which means you're entitled to a jersey, right? If I am paying for the item, then yes. Except that you AREN'T paying for it. You decided jerseys were too expensive, so you purchase poorly-reproduced knock-offs instead.

A lot of people get away with murder too. I love how people equate murder and larceny with buying some jerseys from China Almost as crazy as equating stealing with jaywalking, huh? Buying jerseys from China is hardly stealing. I would never buy a jersey from the league at the price they charge for that crap but for $25 or so I will. It absolutely is stealing. You are stealing from the team, the league and Reebok/Majestic. They have the right to decide who gets to use/wear their likeness. The critea is simple, anyone who agrees to pay what they charge. If you don't agree to pay that, you have no right to wear it. Get it through your thick skull. Wearing a counterfeit jersey is stealing because it takes from the team, league and manufacturer what they would normally get from selling any jersey, whether or not you would purchase a jersey otherwise. You are paying the Chinese mafia for stealing likenesses from sports teams. Now, if you are going to come out with a simpleton argument like, "They are all rich and don't deserve money, so it's okay to screw them," (and some morons argue that anytime 'zomg! rich=evil' comes up), at least that would present an argument as to WHY you feel the way you do, albeit an immoral and irrational argument.

because most people care more about their own wallet. Let's see, I can buy a licensed jersey for $250 or a knock-off for $50? So long as the quality is there (and nowadays, the knock-offs are pretty much just as good) I'll take the knock-off and use the extra $200 for something else. I can buy a PS3 for $300 or spend $0 while stealing one from Best Buy. So long as the quality is there (and it would be, since it's a real PS3), I'll stick to theiving and use the extra $300 for something else. Either way, we are taking something which we have no right to because we don't want to spend the money which the applicable business sets for legally owning their goods.

And this is based on? Republicans are generally for less regulation. Less regulation makes it easier to buy and sell counterfeits. I think that's what he was trying to say, although it's a pretty huge generalization, and obviously isn't completely true. But there is a bit of logic to what he was saying. alright im sorry for the post but they dont care about the american companies as long as it saves them a buck Even by internet banter standards, your reasoning is incredibly dumb. Good job.

Right, but if the Feds were to go after him they would go through the service provider to pinpoint his exact location, no matter what size the city was.

The argument begins with the anti fake jersey crowd saying that those of us who buy the fakes are costing the leagues money they deserve, when we refuse to acknowledge that as a valid point they move right onto the alleged child labor violations. If someone showed me a sweatshop in China where children are being abused and forced to make my jerseys I would immediately stop buying them. I will skip the other nonsense you posted and get to this. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that as a valid point is insane. Businesses have no rights to stop people from illegally copying their liknesses and profiting off of them? That is mind-blowingly stupid. You just keep beating your chest and proudly displaying how much of an imbecile you are. And you are right about the working conditions. You just know the Chinese mafia makes sure its child workers are healthy and well-nourished.

Which Bill? Bill Hall?

You see, nothing you said here was remotely intelligent. Why are people immature for not supporting the Chinese mafia by purchasing innacurate knockoff jerseys? I think your "Wah wah! I want a jersey! I don't care if it's illegal" attitude is far more immature. And none of the allegations have anything to do with being myopic, rednecks or Archie Bunker (who wasn't even a redneck). I'm trying to see into your miniscule brain here, but are you trying to claim that people who don't like counterfeit jerseys are bigots? You just keep reaching for the insults. Next time save a few words and just call us dirty poo-poo heads. Jerseys are worth what the market determines people are willing to pay for them. If Reebok didn't sell a single $300 jersey, the prices would come down. Just because you refuse to pay the money doesn't mean you are entitled to have one anyway. You can say that no car is worth $200,000, but some people are willing to buy them. That doesn't make them any less intelligent. LOL at you wasting time trying to write a logic argument about something so trivial. Archie was both a racist and simple minded.A No, I am wasting my time arguing with a simpleton, but I will venture further. Archie Bunker was not a redneck. He was racist, but he wasn't a redneck. And you are now calling people racists for disliking counterfeit jerseys? If I thought that you believed that, I would actually feel sorry for you. But no, you were made the fool and now you are throwing out random insults as a last-gasp effort to win an arguement.

You see, nothing you said here was remotely intelligent. Why are people immature for not supporting the Chinese mafia by purchasing innacurate knockoff jerseys? I think your "Wah wah! I want a jersey! I don't care if it's illegal" attitude is far more immature. And none of the allegations have anything to do with being myopic, rednecks or Archie Bunker (who wasn't even a redneck). I'm trying to see into your miniscule brain here, but are you trying to claim that people who don't like counterfeit jerseys are bigots? You just keep reaching for the insults. Next time save a few words and just call us dirty poo-poo heads. Jerseys are worth what the market determines people are willing to pay for them. If Reebok didn't sell a single $300 jersey, the prices would come down. Just because you refuse to pay the money doesn't mean you are entitled to have one anyway. You can say that no car is worth $200,000, but some people are willing to buy them. That doesn't make them any less intelligent.

This is ridiculous. Yes, the jerseys are worth $300 if that what the market decides. If people are willing to pay $300 for them, that is what they are worth. And it absolutely is a black market. Just because some people sell them out in the open, like my dumbass friend who last year wrote on his truck windows "STANLY CUP JERSEY'S $40" [sic], doesn't mean it isn't a black market. People who get caught selling counterfeit merchandise go to jail.

The Cardinals' NL champ ring points out something interesting. I found out last week that in the late '80s into the early '90s, many baseball rings had the team's home attendance on the ring. Seems strange.