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These new Cardinals uniforms just stink, they're both boring and ugly at the same time. I don't miss the piping at all, but what a missed opportunity to not create something that's good.

Your growth as a designer is clear from looking through this thread, really great stuff. The league branding is a big improvement in particular

The entire argument is dumb because technically, no, the Denver Nuggets didn't play every single team in the world last year, but there is also no doubt that they are the best team in the world. They are even lead by International talent with Jokic from Serbia and Jamal Murray from Canada. Arguing that they are not "World Champions" is technically true, but it's just a semantic argument at the end of the day. Would people really want the Nuggets to have played an International Champions Tournament after winning the Larry O'Brien trophy to prove their worth of holding an unofficial label? It would be a tremendous waste of time for everybody involved. This is a perfect metaphor for this discussion. I think a lot of international posters I've seen around the internet are conflating some NBA teams labeling themselves World Champions as a typical sign of American arrogance, and while we are generally arrogant people when it comes to our self perception within the world, this is not an example of that.

Not sure how to feel about these to be honest. I am a huge fan of the original Smokey grey alternates and as a whole I think that this works pretty well (albeit worse than the original). Still, there's a mismash of elements with the smokey mountains remaining on the helmet while only the dark grey is present throughout the rest of the uniform. The face mask change was necessary I guess with it being black before, but I am not sure that the vintage grey was the right way to go either. Overall, streamlining the colors would go a long way.

I had grown to like the (now) old Davidson look, but this new Wildcat is really awesome, such a perfect illustration. I do kind of wish that we could see it with a red diamond behind it to help give it a bit more of that local connection, but that probably wouldn't work as well with the new 3/4 perspective on head obscuring the original reference.

I don't think that the inspiration of lakes for that Timberwolves uniform is really the issue, if anybody can embrace that it is the Land of 10,000 Lakes. The problem is that it is such a literal representation of that concept, it looks like somebody searched a Stock website for "water" and put one of the first results on a blank white template. It feels very corporate rather than natural.

No, it is only meant to last this season according to the team. It's a pretty unprecedented move in pro sports to only adopt a look for 1 year, but I honestly could see them rolling with it full time in the near future if it is as well received as I think it will be this season.

I dig the Americans, feels like sort of a missed opportunity to not have the wings on the helmet rather than the A though

I don't necessarily think that the Bears should completely phase out the wishbone C, but I do think this looks pretty awesome in a vacuum. At the very least, it could work pretty well on a new alternate helmet.

I actually think that I prefer this look to what they did last year with bringing back the old color rush jerseys to pair with it. The stripes will match up much better, and you were still getting the little pops of orange on last year's version with the logos and accessories, but now in this set they will feel more intentional and well balanced. I also just prefer their proprietary number font to the block numbers, heightens the whole thing a lot whereas the block numbers felt more generic/collegiate to me.

The Suns new uniforms certainly look nice, but there's something about the incorporation of black in the original Sunburst set that feels better to me than this new emphasis on white. I think that balance of Purple, Orange, and then Black is really what feels the most like the Suns to me, and all of these other sets since have just come a little bit short in trying to get that color balance right.

The Pelicans just play it way too safe with their brand in general. I literally thought this was a new uniform for their G-League affiliate at first glance when scrolling past it. The side stripe is kinda interesting, but everything else is just boring.

I think that the back and forth on who the Oilers identity rightfully belongs to is not very productive. In an ideal world, maybe the Oilers stay in Houston and maintain this set forever and the Titans are the expansion franchise, but that is not the world that we live in, and it's been nearly 30 years since all of that happened. Don't get me wrong, the Titans deserve scrutiny for hiding this look for so long and letting the identity stray to where it currently is with navy blue and silver being the dominant colors in the current set, but it's not as if the connection is just now being brought up out of nowhere. Significant numbers of Oilers fans became Titans fans when they moved to Nashville and have maintained that allegiance since, the team has been hosting "Homecoming" games for Oilers players and coaches for years, and the merch has been popular here for a long time before now. Prominent Oilers like Warren Moon, Earl Campbell, and Billy "White Shoes" Johnson have also aligned themselves with the Titans organization over the Texans. I get that the relationship will never be the same with this identity as it was in Houston, but it's far from baseless.

I think it would be better for Washington to stick with Commanders at this point, feels like a really big ask to get the public to remember and commit to a new nickname for the 3rd time. The name "Commanders" has never really been the issue anyway, it's really just the uniforms that make it stink. I could get on a board with a visual rebrand that commits more to the visual tradition of the team, but the name is not unsalvageable.

This Colts uniform could (generous use here) maybe work if the helmet were blue to create a full committal to monochrome, but even then it just doesn't look or feel right for the Colts. The heathered texture is terrible and just makes me think of cheap athleisure clothes from Target or something, and while that secondary logo is solid, placing it there makes every player look like a captain. Between all of that and branding it as the "Indiana Nights" alternate (which sounds hilarious as an outsider), and the whole thing just falls really flat for me. Ironically, one of the reasons that I was so excited for the removal of the one helmet rule was because I thought it would help us avoid these terrible monochrome uniforms with different color helmet combos, but the Lions and now Colts have proven that some teams just like that look I guess

I'm surprised by how much I enjoy these Vikings throwbacks. They're not a radical change from what they've worn throughout their history, but the slightly darker shade of purple that matches perfectly between the helmet and jersey just hits all the right notes for me. Funny enough, that is probably the first time that you can really say that in their entire uniform history as well. Additionally, I also think that this simplified viking horn looks a lot better than the current, more illustrative version. Their current look is good, but there are a lot of details from these that I think that they could bring into that design to make the definitive Vikings look.

No you're totally right, I completely spaced and forgot about these hahaha The reason I came up with that was because I was specifically thinking of the most classic iteration that everybody is expecting, but honestly, who knows what the team ends up releasing... I really hope they just do the right thing and adapt these faithfully, but I could potentially see them putting a slight twist on it and having the Tennessee Oilers patch on the jersey like the team wore while it first was playing in the state-

The Bucs wore the creamsicles within the past few years, but we have not seen Oilers uniforms on a football field since the team rebranded to Titans in 1999. I don't think it will crash anything since new releases don't even tend to do that these days, but there are plenty of reasons to be excited about that.

I mean, to be fair, the difference in lighting for those two photos you selected is pretty significant. I am not sure if the Raiders have retained the older pants manufacturer or not, but they look more shimmery to me than a team like the Panthers currently wear- VS

I definitely prefer Nike's matte finish fabric 9 out of 10 times to the Reebok dazzle fabric, but there are definite exceptions, and specifically teams with metallic colors have suffered since the switch. The Saints metallic gold becoming more of a khaki color immediately comes to mind for me.

The ad discussion is tiresome if only because I feel confident in saying that they will never go away or be reduced. Once a new stream of revenue has been opened like that, there is no closing it. However, I'm also sure that if you asked everybody here, "Would you like to tack a random corporate logo on to your team's favorite jersey?", that the answer would be a unanimous "NO". My point being, there is nothing to discuss regarding the aesthetics of corporate advertisements on sports uniforms because nobody on this board actually prefers it to the cleaner alternative. Still, I can understand those saying that they can overlook it to an extent as a pragmatic response. Not to play mod here, but I also feel like the off-topic discussion that is beginning here on on everybody's favorite economic philosophy should probably be shut down or moved elsewhere.

The current Texans uniforms are fine and good, and I even understand labeling them as modern classics in the vein of the Panthers, but they lean far more into boring and generic territory for me than anything else. Will these new uniforms they roll out next season be a strong overcorrection? Almost certainly, but I hardly think this current identity is untouchable.

Man I like the all black look in baseball, but it's really starting to feel like Nike's one idea for all of these teams. These just don't do anything for me.

Yes you're both right, there's the primary logo on the back above the name and the helmets will give them the necessary context on the field. That said, I really don't think it's that crazy of an idea that these jerseys are incredibly plain and would be harder to identify without the wordmark at the very least from a retail perspective. Why it couldn't have gone in the traditional location above the number on the front is hard to say for sure, but the neckline looks a bit more cramped then it did before with this new template.

After sitting on these for a few days, it occured to me that the wordmarks were practically required for the Away and Alternate jerseys because without them, there's nothing that would indicate that they're for the Arizona Cardinals. Placing it on the sleeve makes what is an otherwise very common striping pattern somewhat proprietary and provides some greater visibility I suppose.