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  2. Granted, American Movie wasn't set in Milwaukee, but the location is close enough. It also applies to the Padres returning to brown!
  3. I'm just game for Toronto FC fans to act like they're being ignored for their recent title.
  4. Edgier/more serious doesn’t equal better. More often than not, it’s some try-hard garbage that misses the point of the piece. Look at comics of the ‘90s, when anti-heroes and aggressive art styles (which look like garbage, especially in regards to anatomy) were in vogue. Johnny Canuck in his various forms is a Silver/Bronze Age-style hero, whimsical and earnest. The Orca/aggressive Johnny are Dark Age-style designs that miss the point (the Orca isn’t a particularly good appropriation of Haida art, compared to the Seahawks and Thunderbirds).
  5. Crime in Sports has an episode on Mel Hall. Out of all of the people they’ve covered, he’s one of nastiest they’ve discussed that doesn’t involve murder. They’ve put together some hilarious episodes on more esoteric sports, such as cricket and Aussie Rules Football. A lot of it is coming to the sports as outsiders. The bodybuilding features are similar, if only because of the insanity of the athletes’ routines, the unintentional homoeroticism, and the deep insecurities that lead to murder.
  6. Don't you worry I believe your story You were put away For something you didn't do But I'm waiting I've been saving my love
  7. Wish you would step back From that ledge my friend You could cut ties with all the lies That you've been living in And if you do not want to see me again I would understand I would understand
  8. So, That should sum it up. I kind of figured it’d happen, but I was hoping Durant could last a little longer. It’s better that he not risk his career for one series.
  9. You want a '90s, aggressive Johnny Canuck? Here you go: Yuck.
  10. Indeed. Lone Stars is a terrible name, almost as terrible as the suggestion to rename the Wild as the "North Stars" while citing the Red Sox/White Sox coexistence as a reason why it's OK. Red Sox/White Sox was basically grandfathered into the modern branding world. It's not something that should be imitated. This line of logic also ignores that both Sox teams have wildly different color schemes and identities, unlike a prospective North Stars team and the Dallas Stars.
  11. I'd suggest tweaking Johnny a bit. Maybe touch up some of the linework on the face, adjust the angle, give him a backing shape (the "V" of the Vancouver Millionaires), etc. As is, he's not ideal. The local minor-league team had a good base for a "serious" design: Refine it a little in royal/kelly and you'd have something.
  12. Listening to the Crime in Sports (a very funny and informative podcast, check them out) episode on Chris "Mace the Ace" Mason has got me thinking, how is darts a sport? Darts, where the main attraction is the ability to drink booze while throwing small darts at target boards? Any sport where a guy the size of Andy Fordham can be a champion: ...doesn't particularly qualify for me. Maybe it's a bit of UK culture I just don't get.
  13. Just wait until transparent face masks. I'd say that uniform looks fantastic! I'm glad they went with the white jersey.
  14. Been there, done that: I also made a digital version of that logo (relatively easy, what with the simple shape, good reference material - this screencap from the documentary What If: The Unlikely Story of Toronto's Baseball Giants, and Helvetica Black font): This was probably my easiest recreation. The Florida White Sox t-shirt and both the Giants/Mariners designs (which involved replicating drop shadow) were far more difficult).
  15. Except Bill White was NL President, not a prospective owner. That’s somewhat different. The article also described how Elston Howard faced similar issues from the St. Petersburg elites, yet never ascended to the power that White did.
  16. Would you happen to serve that pre-ashamed pizza you presumably regurgitated? Speaking of Vancouver, that pizza looks like the floor of the house/trailer/various kill rooms on the Pickton junkyard/homestead/place Vancouver PD should have investigated earlier.
  17. Add in the issue of the Raiders attempting to move to LA, which prompted the Coliseum board and Oakland City Council's rejection of any potential buyout. Let's just say that it was thought to be a sure thing until it wasn't. Both Stadium for Rent and Home Team tell a similar story. Quoting from my thread (one of the most comprehensive posts, since I had fantastic sources to work with - I bolded some key statements): Also, because I figured out how the Giants used a modified Clarendon variant (one I've nicknamed "Lurie Slab" with "Candle$hit Sans" for numbers) for the 1983-93 ugmo uniforms: TL;DR: Had MLB's teams not feared being penalized by CBS in their contract negotiations, as well as pressure from influential owners and the strength of the local ownership group (in spite of a smaller bid and a loan from Lurie), then the move might have gone through. Naimoli thought it was close enough to commission prototypes. Also, the argument that Bill White was punishing St. Petersburg for the racism he faced as a player there is one of the STUPIDEST reasons I've heard mentioned for a prevented relocation.
  18. The 2015 one is the run I remember most fondly, but you are correct. I'm putting no asterisk on this title, as the Raptors are simply that good and the Warriors are still playing franchise players. It's not like the stars are without decent backups (compared to what Lebron had in 2015 and 2018). Draymond had it coming (I made the Anthony Mason comparison before, but Anthony Mason would be less of a pissant on the court - he saved his debauchery for nightclub fisticuffs and one particular charge that was all but forgotten after he died), while Steph's wounds weren't particularly debilitating or problematic in the long-term. All it meant was that Houston and Portland got a minor boost.
  19. Thank you. Thanks! I'll only be doing one of those, due to it's special connection to the city. Thanks. Thanks! I like the Hannibal vibe as well, even though the elephant species are different, AFAIK. William "Bill" Collins III really does look like a midlife crisis made manifest, doesn't he? "Singular names that refer to emotions are in! THIS IS WHAT THE KIDS LIKE! I'm cool now, right?" Thanks! The Rainiers is a top-five concept for me, as I like the color balance and the region-appropriate design (not to mention how it would get rid of my least-favorite MLB name). The whole "colorful but tasteful" angle has been a big driving force for the series, showing the diverse ways in which the color schemes of the sport could be remarkably less boring. I found that Twins scenario funny as well! I am curious what you thought of the 1987-2009 Senators/Nationals design, if only for its "uncanny valley" nature. Anyway, for the one-year celebration of this thread, here's the next concept! PORTLAND STAGS – Wish upon a whitetail The Rose City’s recent push for an MLB team (AKA the Portland Diamond Project) has been all the rage on these forums, with the group apparently gaining traction at the Terminal 2 site.1 However, this is not the first time that Portland has come up for MLB relocation/expansion discussion. The first attempts to bring baseball to Portland involved both the Expos and the Marlins. Rumblings started in about 2002/early 2003, when former Portland Mayor Vera Katz and the Oregon Sports Authority/Portland Baseball Group/Oregon Stadium Campaign (website here) – led by former Pacers GM David Kahn, Drew Mahalic, and Steve Kanter – met with MLB officials in New York. With Portland being the second-biggest market among the many cities listed at 2.86 million people (compared to the first-place 5.9 million of the District of Columbia).2 (from left: David Kahn, Drew Mahalic, and Steve Kanter - a law professor at the law school branch of my alma mater) These groups were able to lead the charge for Senate Bill 5 in Oregon, which passed in September 2003, allowed for the city to use $150 million of athletes and team executives’ income taxes to fund part of a stadium. This controversial bill went through several phases before its final passing. Around the time of the bill passing, things were looking up for Portland as a baseball destination. If they weren’t going to get the Expos, they could easily get another team.3 The groups even had a variety of sites outlined in their plan (link in the citations).4 However, trouble was brewing within the bid. Local interest among the business community never fully materialized and the group went through internal struggles. By April 2004, Portland was left off of the finalist list for the Expos (DC, Northern Virginia, Norfolk, Monterrey, and Las Vegas). While the Portland forces completed a financing plan to supplement Senate Bill 5 for the $350 million stadium proposal, it did not revive MLB’s interest in the market. Portland, like Las Vegas, had a minor hope spot during the DC City Council’s funding snag. However, that conflict’s resolution put Portland baseball on hold.5 The Marlins were quick to revive interest, during the extortion proceedings that resulted in Marlins Park’s construction. Portland was one of the most popular speculation sites for baseball to land, with famed Red Sox player/executive Johnny Pesky coming out in support of the initiative. Plans were ready to expand Providence (then PGE) Park to 25,000 seats to accommodate the team, while Marlins’ top brass (e.g., David Samson) toured the groups’ desired sites. However, this interest was merely a ruse to get a stadium deal done in Little Havana. While the Portland Baseball Group would continue informally, interest died down until the recent Portland Diamond Project started in 2017.6 TL; DR: Hans (Udo Kier doing his usual weird guy schtick, which is appropriate for the movie) as the Portland boosters, and Mike Waters as MLB.7 I’d like to throw a big shout-out to John Hunt of The Oregonian for his beat reporting on the Expos’ relocation saga. His articles were an excellent resource in following the story. Portland gaining either the Expos or the Marlins, had they gotten a more concrete stadium plan, would have probably been beneficial for the league. They could have either given the NL a Pacific Northwest presence or with an AL flip, given Seattle a bit of a breather when it comes to travel time. Having gone to college in the area, I’d have loved to see a game or two. This concept should cover both the Expos and Marlins’ attempts to move to the area, as well as potential moves by a new team (as explained by Craig Cheek, founder of the Portland Diamond Project – although he had some reservations about a name change with the A’s).8 I’ve long been a fan of the name “Stags” for a Portland team. This is hardly a new name for a prospective Portland team, but it’s one that fits. The whitetail deer (Odocoileus virginianus) is native to the state and represented on one of the most recognizable signs in the city. Besides, they’d be the only deer team in MLB! Using this picture of a posed whitetail deer and the work of @Section30 (thanks for the help!) on his Saskatchewan Whitetails as a base/inspiration, I crafted a deer logo that’s both dynamic and a little playful. The colors are Forest Green/Sky Blue/Yellow-Gold, my adaptation of the Portland flag. The balance of these colors sets them apart from both the A’s and the Mariners. The primary is the deer head on its own, while the secondary is the cap logo (a modified version of Hanley Pro Block Inline). The tertiary features the deer inside a roundel with the sock stripe pattern and the full team name. The uniform design is fairly traditional, with open type Buinton as the base font for the cursive scripts. The tails have gold inlines, for an extra punch of color. Hanley Pro Block numbers also appear alongside the scripts. The sleeve and pants stripes are B/G/Y/G/B, as the light blue and yellow-gold never touch. The alternates include a Sky Blue jersey and a Forest Green one. The green outfit features the “P” insignia, while the blue employs the tertiary patch. Additional alternates include a Sky Blue-crowned cap for the blue jersey and a fauxback. Said uniform homages the 1957 Portland Beavers’ cap logo and Cardinals-style wordmark and template My method for this was to simplify the deer from an old Milwaukee Bucks concept of mine and show it leaping over the bat (itself from the Cardinals’ 1940s logo, recolored). The jacket uses the home script and blue shoulder inserts. While Portland will have to wait to get their team (PLEASE don’t build on speculation, remember what happened to St. Petersburg and arguably San Antonio), I would consider this concept my supposition for what a Portland team could look like. It’s got my favorite name, color scheme, and design style for a Rose City squad! C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, we revisit Northern Virginia, for a little bit of horseplay. 1 Zach Spedden, “New Portland Ballpark Renderings Unveiled,” Ballpark Digest (blog), April 11, 2019, http:// https://ballparkdigest.com/2019/04/11/new-portland-ballpark-renderings-unveiled/. 2 AP, “Portland Makes Pitch for Expos,” Los Angeles Times, January 26, 2003, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jan-26-sp-dogportland26-story.html; Population figures from Sales & Marketing Management, “Relocation Revisited,” The Oregonian, January 18, 2004, sec. Sports. 3 John Hunt, “Can You Say Portland Twins, A’s or Marlins?,” The Oregonian, September 14, 2003, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “‘Plethora’ of Potential Baseball Owners - A Consultant Says Potential Owners Are ‘Very Interested’ If Financing Can Be Finalized,” The Oregonian, September 17, 2003, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “Enthusiastic Kulongoski Signs Stadium Finance Bill,” The Oregonian, September 25, 2003, sec. Sports. 4 Eric Okurowski, “StadiumPage.Com - 2004 Portland Concepts,” Stadium Page, 2012, http://www.stadiumpage.com/concepts/Portland04_R.html. 5 John Hunt, “Portland Omitted, but Only from List,” The Oregonian, March 30, 2004, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “Stadium Finance Plan Finished,” The Oregonian, August 6, 2004, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “Stepping up, Striking Out,” The Oregonian, April 3, 2005, sec. Sports; John Hunt and Erin Hoover Barnett, “Expos Might Be on Road Again,” The Oregonian, December 16, 2004, sec. Sports. 6 Stephen Beaven and John Killen, “Big-League Baseball Drive Not Dead, Just Kind of Resting,” The Oregonian, September 1, 2009, sec. Local News, https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2009/08/major_league_baseball_in_portl.html; Charles Elmore, “Stadium Roulette Opening-Day Ritual,” The Palm Beach Post, April 12, 2006, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “Florida Marlins’ Relocation Tour Comes to Portland for ‘Exploring,’” The Oregonian, January 11, 2006, sec. Sports; John Hunt, “Portland’s Prospects Fading for MLB Team,” April 16, 2006, sec. Sports; Phil Rogers, “Rogers: Portland Could Be a Prized Relocation Spot,” ESPN.com, January 12, 2007, https://www.espn.com/mlb/hotstove06/columns/story?columnist=rogers_phil&id=2727901. 7 My Own Private Idaho is my favorite movie, something I’ve shared before on the boards. I’ve been waiting for a Portland team to appear to share this .gif (even though this scene is Seattle). 8 Primetime 3.12.19 Hour 1/Craig Cheek Interview, accessed June 5, 2019, https://1080thefan.radio.com/media/audio-channel/primetime-31219-hour-1craig-cheek-interview.
  20. He really needs to get Mattingly-ed. I’d like it if that Sharks won the Cup the season after he goes away.
  21. Not really, no. What would be your preferred name? Something “fierce” and “intimidating?”