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  1. Good for them getting Matthew Wolff. Their current identity is by Doubleday and Cartwright. D&C does some great stuff, especially with motion and illustration, but Matthew Wolff is so good at soccer identity. LAFC, NYCFC, Oakland Roots, Tusla FC...all beautiful.
  2. Navy pants, despite not being a school color, is the right choice. Light blue pants wouldn't look good. Navy blue adds a bit of grounding to the look. Wish the helmet were light blue and the gloves had some light blue and/or yellow.
  3. I do wish there were some black along the hem. The black pants kind of help fill that role, but when it's worn by a fan it will look like it's missing something. I think something along the lines of what Vegas' hem looks like would work. Thick black hem stripe topped with red stripe the same thickness as the red on the sleeves. Also wish the red sleeve stripes were a bit farther apart. I'd like the numbers to sit between the stripes instead of on top of them.
  4. Use that beautiful blue jersey as road primary. The script and that blue and gold sans white color scheme is so good. And yeah, I support color jerseys (and pants!) as full-time or primary roads. Gray was just something they did when they didn't have access to laundry machines every day. No reason it has to be the standard in the modern day. Along the same lines, this should be the Jays road primary:
  5. Thanks! Also found Display Gothic 1958
  6. Does anybody know something relatively close to the "John Mayer" font in the top right? It's like a vintage appliance or car logo's font. I just can't think of it.
  7. I found Quberten a while back from some older KHL redesigns. I love their work. Their attention to detail and the background/pattern work is impeccable. Their work makes me smile, which is honestly one of the best compliment you can give a branding effort. You see something they did and just chuckle to yourself and say "wow, that's cool."
  8. This is where I’m at. I completely get why they wanted to add white striping. I don’t think it’s totally necessary, but I get it. It does create a weird striping pattern. I do like that they didn’t make the outer yellow stripes thinner to compensate like the previous unis did with the thin silver thin outer stripe look. Could’ve done white numbers, but when the Blues left their yellow numbers for white it was a misstep to me. Also like I previously said the Sabres font is too thin to me to not have an outline. Non-outline numbers also feel less “cheap” when it’s more bespoke than what the Sabres use. Personally I like single color numerals and nameplates and think the Stars, for example, look great. The Canucks use of Agency less so. And it seems like keeping the classic Sabres numerals was somewhat of a priority. But I mean overall here we’re talking about great work and an incredible upgrade.
  9. I don't hate the white stripes. Don't love them, they're not necessary, but don't hate them. And the idea for adding them coming in late from some marketing EVPs at the Sabres ownership group rather than from the Adidas designers is *chef kiss* I don't like the mismatched sleeve and bottom hem stripes on the road. Most Sabres fans (except me I guess) would've bemoaned that they still didn't get the jersey right if they matched them, so whatever. As far as the numbers, I wish they didn't have an outline. It's a pet peeve of mine when the numbers have an outline, but the surname letters are the same color as the number only without an outline. Makes it look like the names forgot a layer. No white in the numbers or sleeve stripes on the home would've really let that beautiful crest pop. Only problem is the Sabres numbers are pretty thin, so they would've had to beef them up a little. --Oh, and the slightly thicker than normal yellow braiding around the shoulder yoke is an under appreciated detail. Looks way better than if it were piping-thin.
  10. It would be pretty easy to turn it from a Civil War rebel into a Revolutionary War rebel theme. Granted, Nevada wasn't part of the US during the revolution, but it wasn't part of the Confederacy either. Outside of that you could probably just use a cowboy-type figure with the name Rebels
  11. The helmet is satin, not matte. The face mask is silver, not chrome.
  12. The leak yesterday forced the team to move up the reveal. Jerseys still go on sale the 14th. I thought the new set would have some tapered stripes. Been kinda Nike’s thing with Jets new jerseys and the pro bowl set from a few years ago. Wish they weren’t jersey side stripes, though. Or at least maybe the jersey side stripes could point down but don’t go all the way and the pant stripes start from the bottom and stop at the upper thigh. Then have the logo on the hip using the pointed stripes as a point force to the logo essentially. Overall the home and road jerseys are pretty good. Simple enough. I’d make the ATL smaller, but again that’s kinda Nike’s thing right now. Numbers look big, too. Gradient jersey isn’t good. Sure, push boundaries and try something a little different, but gradient jerseys have never worked well. It feels like we’re going backwards with this gradient jersey and the Rams gradient and shadowed mess of a logo. 90’s nostalgia is a trend right now, but trend chasing is fleeting. Pants are good. The stripe helps break up the yoga pants look a little with same colored socks, but socks and pants being different colors is still ideal. Hope the reds never actually get worn. Ideally after the combo experimentation runs its course they settle into black jerseys over white pants and white jerseys over white or black pants. I really like the helmet. Satin black looks beautiful instead full gloss or matte. The oversized logo looks much more natural than the Bucs attempt. Silver face mask is nice, too.
  13. Yeah, same jersey, new chest and shoulder logos. And I guess new manufacturer. My (poorly stated) point was that the jersey design and its silver accents predate the new logos. People were saying the logos should have silver because the unis do, but the unis aren't part of the new brand.
  14. These are the same unis they've been wearing all season just with the new logos. Here's what they looked like before.
  15. Listen, I've talked about this way more than I care to already, so I'm probably not gonna reply after this. But it's not the same as the official logo. The white and silver outlines are a little off.
  16. Are you looking at the one in McCarthy's post? That's not the official logo.
  17. Dude, I'm just telling you what I think the designer's rationale might be. Also, it doesn't go thick/thin/thick. The width around the top and front of the claw are the same and then it widens out on the bottom a little. I do think variable width outlines are more visually interesting than single width, when that decision makes sense, which I think it does in a logo depicting a flying falcon. It's not a perfect logo, but I'm surprised to see it get this much hate.
  18. It's a pretty common way to convey motion and also depth. I would assume the other outline differences are for depth. It's not supposed to be a flat bird.
  19. The left side outline is twice as wide as the right to help show forward motion.
  20. I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but that's wild to call it worst in the league. It's a very clean and nicely designed logo. Same guy that did Texans, Cards update, and some other. Can you explain what about it seems "over-designed" to you? Jaguars, to me, feels over-designed. Two golds, tons of little shards and jagged lines. That's a logo that has a lot going on and could be simplified. Falcons, though? That one's pretty clean to me.
  21. One thing Nike has done a few times recently is long narrow triangles. Jets, 2016 Pro Bowl, Jags, and Bucs all come to mind. The same type of triangles that are used in the Falcon's logo as the red wing highlights. Wouldn't be too surprised to see that somewhere.
  22. Yeah, but Monarchs probably would use a form of the Charlotte crown. RSL, Cincy, and Chicago all use a crown in their identity. Chicago is far more abstract, but it's still referred to as a "fire crown." If there weren't already several crowns I'd like Charlotte Monarchs or the un-suggested Queen City SC. All Carolina stood out to me. Not as good, but as something that's probably in their top 2 or 3 options.
  23. I modified this quote to show two of the latest pieces from Brandiose—the Paddleheads and Trash Pandas— and their relatively old Iron Pigs logo. Sure, they share some similarities, but Iron Pigs feels stripped back compared to the others. Bigger elements, easier to render in embroidery and small sizes. Plus Iron Pigs was a pretty clever play on pig iron mined in the region. Paddleheads, Trash Pandas, Sod Poodles, Vibes, etc. are harder to justify. Look at their older Clearwater Threshers work, too. Clean. Brandiose is extremely talented but has become an almost inevitable parody of itself.
  24. Not a fan of pinstripes and piping together. Pick one (piping!) or the other. I love the road sand color, though. Huge fan of uncommon road colors. Loved the dark gray Diamondbacks road color. Not necessarily the uni as a whole with the snakeskin patterns, but the color was a neat departure. I like the brown top being the primary road. We’re beyond the days of needing grays. Gimme some color. Not necessarily with these unis, but let’s get more colored pants, too. Other teams could wear navy, black, red, etc. Gray is a tradition we can get rid of. Swinging friar on a spring training/BP hat will sell like hot cakes.
  25. One of my bigger problems with this is how overly detailed this set is. Some parts are going to be completely illegible when embroidered or printed/digitally rendered at small sizes. On the logo with the moose in an innertube it has a baseball in one antler and a fishing lure and line in the other. And the pupil is green, orange, and white. That's going to be so small and muddy on a cap. The Montana outline logo is really nice, but again, I don't know how all those dots on the fish will translate when embroidered. Can you imagine the primary logo, or any of these, printed at 1" or smaller in black and white halftone at a relatively low resolution in a newspaper boxscore? Back in the early Clink Room days Brandiose showed off videos of them working with New Era to do cool stuff with embroidery to create depth and shading from which way the thread was running. They'd have a large element of a single color, but by running threads in different directions you could create all this texture and visual depth. I feel like that's now lost to this heavy detail.
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