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  1. Dont know where this would go.... but could anyone tell me where thered be a Russell LSU #2 Jersey for sale on the internet? I cant find any. I can find a #4, but none with the #2, not on LSU's site, not ebay, nothing. Any help would be appreciated.


  2. NFLN just reminded me how big of a headache Oakland's receieving core could be next year..... Moss, Porter, and Mike Williams.... good luck Lane Kiffin.

    Looks like the Lions just took Drew Stanton, from Michigan State.

    Detroit's QB of the future???

    Good move. Stanton had top 10 pick potential. With Martz coaching him up and sitting behind Kitna for a while, I think Stanton could be good. Plus when you have Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson, its damn hard not to be productive.


  3. Here's my mock draft!

    1) OAK- JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU

    2)DET- Calvin Johnson, WR, GT

    3)CLE- Brady Quinn, QB, ND

    4) TB- Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson

    5) ARZ- Joe Thomas, OT, UW

    6) WSH- Amobi Okoye, DT, UL

    7) MIN- LaRon Landry, S, LSU

    8) ATL (fr. HOU)- Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas

    9) MIA- Ted Ginn, WR, OSU

    10) HOU (fr. ATL)- Levi Brown, OT, PSU

    11) SF- Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska

    12) BUF- Adrian Peterson, RB, OU

    13) STL- Darrelle Revis, CB, Pitt

    14) CAR- Patrick Willis, ILB, Ole Miss

    15) PIT- Jon Beason, OLB , Miami (FL)

    16) GB- Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal

    17) JAX- Brandon Merriweather, S, Miami (FL)

    18) CIN- Leon Hall, CB, Michigan

    19) TEN- Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee

    20) NYG- Paul Poslusnsky, OLB, PSU

    21) DEN- Joe Staley, OT, CMU

    22) KC- Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC

    23) DAL- Alan Branch, DT, Michigan

    24) NE (fr. SEA)- Michael Griffin, S, Texas

    25) NYJ- Greg Olsen, TE, Miami (FL)

    26) PHI- Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida

    27) NO- Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee

    28) NE- David Harris, ILB, Michigan

    29) BLT- Lawrence Timmons, OLB, FSU

    30) SD- Reggie Nelson, S, Florida

    31) CHI- Anthony Gonzalez, WR, OSU

    32) IND- Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU


  4. The team picking first has the right to negotiate and sign any player in the draft before hand. The player they sign would have to be their first overall pick. If this happens the second team picking can not sign a player until after they draft them, signing before the draft is only reserved for whom is picking first.


  5. Good move. You go to college to position yourself into a place where you can get a good job. Durant's done that. If he stayed and either a) got hurt or b ) had a less than stellar year, his stock would go down and he wouldnt make nearly as much money. Right now his stock is as high as it can be, and hes taking full advantage.


  6. Atlanta wipped Houston. Big time.

    But Carr had to go. He had run out of oppurtunities. Sure he had a bad OLine, but Rosenfels didnt seem to have an issue when he stepped in and played. Carr just couldnt read the D fast enough, and held on too long. Hopefully Schaub does better.


  7. I am asking the Detroit Lions to do the unthinkable: to take a WR in the first round 4 out of the past 5 years. Calvin Johnson SHOULD be the pick. He is the #1 player in this draft and the surest thing to come out since Carson Palmer. He has all the tools you look for (Moss' height, TO's speed, Harrison's hands) with a great work ethic. For crying out loud, he ran the a 4.39 40 at the combine with a pair of BORROWED SHOES. Plus, he had a smurf of a QB throwing to him in college who didn't throw to him nearly enough, which prevented him from challenging for the Heisman. If you have never seen what this kid can do, then check out this catch:

    But thanks to the joke of a GM we have, we find ourselves in a predicament, having drafted 3 WRs in the past 4 years. Charles Rogers was a publicity stunt; the hometown kid coming to revive his hometown team (Too bad the only thing he could revive was his crack pipe :P). Roy Williams is becoming an All-Pro wide-out, the crown jewel of Millen's only some-what successful draft (Kevin Jones, Teddy Lehman). Big Mike Williams, or BMW, for all intesive purposes is Bart Simpson turned wide receiver (Donuts, anyone?). I wouldn't plan on him being in Detroit past June 3rd.

    I view that there are 3 "franchise players" in this draft: JaMarcus Russell, Adrian Peterson (if he stays healthy), & Calvin Johnson. I am scared that the Lions are trying to shy away from these "franchise" players. However, when you have so many holes and are as far from winning as the Lions are (2 or 3 years away in my books), you need to take the BPA. And for all you Lions fans who say "Well, the BPA theory got us BMW two years ago", Mike Williams was not the BPA, Shawn Merriman or Derrick Johnson were. Only a baffoon like Matt Millen had an out-of-work, overweight WR at #1 on the board at that point. I was screaming for them to take DJ, but it blew-up when Minnesota passed on BMW at #7.

    This year there are many Lions fans who want them to either take Joe Thomas or trade down. Here is the problem I have with these options....

    (1) In many years when there isn't a dominent offensive lineman, the best of a mediocre bunch become grossly overvalued. I'm not saying Joe Thomas is a horrible player, he could quite possible be a very good pro, but he's not this Orlando Pace that everyone is making him out to be.

    (2) Why would you corner yourself into trading down? I have nothing against trading down, but it shouldn't be your only option! Of course if someone offers me an unbelievable deal, then by all means, I am taking it and laughing all the way to the bank. But unless that deal comes around, then I am staying right at #2.

    (3) For those who think the Lions need to draft on the defensive side, normally I would agree, but when you have a pick in the top 3 or 4, you need to get a playmaker, no matter what side of the ball he plays on. Look at last years draft. If Reggie Bush becomes as good as they say he can be, how much will the Texans regret passing on a playmaker of his status. Although they strengthened their defense with Mario, they may have passed on one of the greatest offensive players of his era.

    (4) As smart as it would be, the Leos will not take a QB. They have a head coach and an offensive head coach who do not believe in taking QBs early in drafts. Add that to a franchise who got burned by taking Joey Harrington, and you have a next to none shot. The only possibility of a QB is if Russell by some chance falls to them at #2, but then I think they would get a sweet deal and trade down instead of taking him.

    Going by those four facts, the Detroit Lions have 3 options: Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, or trade down. I would pull the trigger in that order. One miracle situation would be a trade down and then still getting Peterson, but the chances of that are slim to none.

    You know this league is messed up when (cue the circus music) the Buccaneers lose the coin toss and drop to #4, even though the player they lust for, CJ, is the #1 player in the draft. You'd think that there is no way they can get him. Yet they will get him because the Raiders won't take him, the Lions won't take him, and the Browns won't take him.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts. Feel free to criticize, scream, or, by some chance, agree with me.

    I got to go take a Tylenol before my head explodes. :shocked:

    GFB

    Moss' height and TO's speed? Moss isnt overly tall and TO isnt overly fast.... interesting you said those two attributes. And when was Carson Palmer a sure pick? Many draft experts had him as very risky (only one good season) and even had Leftwich rated above him.

    And Mike Williams was the BPA at that point in 05. Doesnt make it a smart pick, but remember he was ranked #1 by Mel Kiper and very highly by many others. Doesn't mean he was ranked highly in the front office but going into the draft he was suppost to challenge for the top 5.

    They already have a playmaker at receiver, and Mike Furrey looked great last year. For Matt Millen's sake, he better hope BMW turns out to be the slot receiver he's suppost to be. If Im Millen, and I cant trade down I take Quinn or Russell if hes available. Kitna is becoming ancient, plus hes not that good to begin with. Bringing in a franchise QB for the future could help save the franchise. After Joey though they may be gun shy, but IMO thats the smartest option.

    Seriously dude, shut the fu*k up. Im not kidding. Talking about the damn Lions getting Johnson. You disgust me..... :mad:

    Now remember this is coming from a Bucs fan who wants Johnson more than life itself and who is horribly paranoid about having the lions, raiders, and browns who all could do ANYTHING ahead of him. Thank you for making my night that much more restless....................

    Wait a minute.... I thought you wanted Dwayne Jarrett over Johnson? :P


  8. I absolutely love the old uni's... and at first I was skeptical when I saw these. But they're growing on me... I'm sure once I see them in action, they will establish themselves as one of the best in the league, just as their old set was.

    Way to go San Diego!


  9. Midwest- UNLV

    South- Memphis

    East- Georgetown

    West- Southern Illinois

    Champ- Georgetown

    Yeah Im making wacky predictions this year.

    Notable upsets: Albany over Virginia, Winthrop over Notre Dame

    I agree with both of these. Im gonna throw out George Washington over Vanderbilt as well.


  10. Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that.

    After seeing this replay 75 times, I totally agree, Pat. He's got a history. He needs to go, for good. He's a punk with no respect for the game, his opponents, or his team even. There's no place in this game for a criminal like this.

    We get it. Basketball, hockey, so on, so forth. We get it. Drop it.

    I'll echo the prior comment. Spontaneous reaction, albeit disproportionate to what precipitated it. It wasn't a planned hit like Bertuzzi's. That said, take him out for the balance of the season, maybe the first round of the playoffs too. We needn't kick him out of the league.

    Also, "suspended along time"? As in along the time-space continuum? That actually might be a stiff punishment indeed.

    :lol:

    But while kicking him out completely may be considered too harsh Im just thinking, this guy has a history of unnecessary violence. Then he goes and swings his stick like a bat at someone's head. If I was running the league I wouldn't want someone like that playing and representing the league.


  11. Plummers rights and #4 for the #1? I know Al Davis is senile but noone is that dumb to make that trade.

    <Paul Tagliabue Voice> There has been a trade. Washington sends their 1999 1st round pick to New Orleans for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks, as well as their 2000 1st and 3rd round picks. And with the fifth selection, New Orleans selects Ricky Williams from the University of Texas. </Paul Tagliabue Voice>

    Good Point :D

    BUT. The trade bucfan suggested would mean Jake Plummer is worth the 12th overall pick. (look up a draft pick trade chart). Is anyone dumb enough to think that?

    I really cant understand what the issue would be with that. Oakland makes that kinda move they get the vet presence they want at QB plus possibly a big back in Adrian Peterson. Its not like the bucs have the 20th pick or anyhting. And even so, if they make that deal and dont want a running back, both Quinn and JaMarcus Russel could still be on the board and then could sit behind Plummer for a year or two and develop instead of being tossed into the game immidately.

    To trade up from #4 to #1 it would take something equivalent to the 12th Overall Pick to get there. Look up a trade value chart. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html). As we now know Plummer is worth a 4th Round Pick at best. As you see with that value the Bucs couldnt even move up from #4 to #3 with that deal. The trade you suggested is more lop sided than Tara Reid post boob job.

    Because of a"Trade Values Chart"? Ive never even heard of that. And I dont see how its lopsided if the Raiders gain an extra veteran quarterback, dont lose anything anyway (Either Quinn or Russel and Peterson WILL still be there in the forth slot), and end up paying less for their pick. Is having the first pick really that super awesome that its not worth trading even if your set to gain quite a bit more? I mean yeah sure, that chart thingy says its not good, but that chart thingy doesnt take into account other factors such as income of your pick, vet presence, the fact that whoever the Raiders choose would be tossed into the game still wet, ect ect ect.

    That Trade Value Chart is very, very, close to the one NFL teams use to value Draft Picks. If you think the Raiders would drop down out of the top pick cause of Jake Plummer then thats cool, but Im saying its just not realisitc.

    The Raiders can choose any player they want at #1. By going to #4 you could have your top 3 players on the board gone by the time you pick. Its crazy to suggest that an aging QB, thats worth a 4th round pick at best, whos been benched, and has mediocre at best stats recently would get a team to trade out of #1. Look how much it took for New York to get Manning and the #1 Selection.

    If anything I could see the Raiders taking CJ and trading him for a huge amount to someone for picking Russell.... i.e.

    1) OAK- CJ

    2) DET- Thomas

    3) CLE- Peterson

    4) TB- Russell

    Then Oakland could make Tampa give up say Russell, a 3rd, next years first, and a late draft pick next year for CJ.


  12. Plummers rights and #4 for the #1? I know Al Davis is senile but noone is that dumb to make that trade.

    <Paul Tagliabue Voice> There has been a trade. Washington sends their 1999 1st round pick to New Orleans for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks, as well as their 2000 1st and 3rd round picks. And with the fifth selection, New Orleans selects Ricky Williams from the University of Texas. </Paul Tagliabue Voice>

    Good Point :D

    BUT. The trade bucfan suggested would mean Jake Plummer is worth the 12th overall pick. (look up a draft pick trade chart). Is anyone dumb enough to think that?

    I really cant understand what the issue would be with that. Oakland makes that kinda move they get the vet presence they want at QB plus possibly a big back in Adrian Peterson. Its not like the bucs have the 20th pick or anyhting. And even so, if they make that deal and dont want a running back, both Quinn and JaMarcus Russel could still be on the board and then could sit behind Plummer for a year or two and develop instead of being tossed into the game immidately.

    To trade up from #4 to #1 it would take something equivalent to the 12th Overall Pick to get there. Look up a trade value chart. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html). As we now know Plummer is worth a 4th Round Pick at best. As you see with that value the Bucs couldnt even move up from #4 to #3 with that deal. The trade you suggested is more lop sided than Tara Reid post boob job.