Elwood

I could help doing exact duplicates of older logos, if someone knew who to submit them to to have them uploaded to the site.

Making exact duplicates of older logos would be a great service to the community! Would you be willing to start with these St. Louis Cardinals historical "birds on the bat" logos, noting the differences in the evolution of the birds on the bat design over the years? The version on the Cardinals' page on the main site that is labelled as "1924 - 1948" should actually be 1936 - 1948; and the one that is labelled "1957 - 1997" should actually be 1966 - 1997. If you can do the other birds on the bat logos shown on this resource (other than the 1951 - 1955 and the 1966 and later logos on the sheet below, which are already on the main site), that would be great:

Thanks in advance for your willingness to make these older logos!

Hi, I sent this in to UniWatch last year as apart of the article we published, and the artist (on behalf of the St. Louis Cardinals) would appreciate that you do not try and duplicate these graphics, as they are already digitized, and those digitized versions have been deemed authentic. All other St. Louis Cardinals fan created graphics are not authentic and for obvious reasons should not be trusted. Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, who are these "I", "we", and "artist" you speak of? Links please. What's UniWatch? What article are you speaking of? Where was it published? Links please. What happens when 'amateurs' 'duplicate' sports graphics, or any graphics for that matter? Where can we see these authentic digitized graphics? Who deems digitized versions as authentic? Okay, so we, amateurs, shouldn't 'trust' any concepts / graphics / 'duplicates' created by other amateurs? Where do you draw the line between duplicates and concepts? Where do we draw the line between 'pro' and 'amateur'? Links please, if you should have any, for us to better understand, what you are implying with your very first post. Is that what you're saying here? What happens when non St. Louis Cardinals fans / amateur artists 'duplicate' / create concepts? What are these obvious reasons you speak of? What do you mean by 'trust'? Any more links you can help us understand what you're saying here? You see, we're 'amateurs' here, creating concepts and would appreciated your understanding. Thank you so much for your understanding us 'amateurs' here at boards.sportslogos.net

Wow! I just realised the original artist is well over 114 years old! Is she / he okay? How is his / her health? Does she / he still create graphics for the St. Louis Cardinals? Please tell him / her "Hi!" from us amateurs here at boards.sportslogos.net. Thank you so much, Minor League Guy

Uni-Watch is the blog of Paul Lukas, an ESPN columnist who is the number one journalist in uniform related news. I love the site and read it everyday.

The article linked here is Paul Lukas interviewing St. Louis Cardinals designer Gary Kodner. Kodner was frustrated by MLB/Majestic branned merchandise and onfield attire that incorrectly displayed logos and scripts past and present. Kodner's requests to MLB and Majestic to portray the Cardinals logos correctly were blown off, so he dilligently digitized and catologued all the correct logos and details of the franchise to avoid unauthentic attire in the future. After reading the article I gained a better understanding of where minor league guy is coming from.

What I think minor league guy, cokeologist and gatorhunter dont quite grasp is that Ren69's thread is about taking old dated logos and updating them to have a fresh look, not digitizing old logos exactly.

Ha! Ya learn somethin' new everyday! Thank you so much for posting the info. I won't bother clicking the links, I think you answered my questions quite well, thank you. Who is this Paul Lukas fellow, what are his credentials? Is he an artist, a designer, has he worked in a uniform factory? Probably not, would be my guess. Correct me if I'm wrong. Oh, is he the fellow that sells laminated cards?

I could help doing exact duplicates of older logos, if someone knew who to submit them to to have them uploaded to the site.

Making exact duplicates of older logos would be a great service to the community! Would you be willing to start with these St. Louis Cardinals historical "birds on the bat" logos, noting the differences in the evolution of the birds on the bat design over the years? The version on the Cardinals' page on the main site that is labelled as "1924 - 1948" should actually be 1936 - 1948; and the one that is labelled "1957 - 1997" should actually be 1966 - 1997. If you can do the other birds on the bat logos shown on this resource (other than the 1951 - 1955 and the 1966 and later logos on the sheet below, which are already on the main site), that would be great:

Thanks in advance for your willingness to make these older logos!

Hi, I sent this in to UniWatch last year as apart of the article we published, and the artist (on behalf of the St. Louis Cardinals) would appreciate that you do not try and duplicate these graphics, as they are already digitized, and those digitized versions have been deemed authentic. All other St. Louis Cardinals fan created graphics are not authentic and for obvious reasons should not be trusted. Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, who are these "I", "we", and "artist" you speak of? Links please. What's UniWatch? What article are you speaking of? Where was it published? Links please. What happens when 'amateurs' 'duplicate' sports graphics, or any graphics for that matter? Where can we see these authentic digitized graphics? Who deems digitized versions as authentic? Okay, so we, amateurs, shouldn't 'trust' any concepts / graphics / 'duplicates' created by other amateurs? Where do you draw the line between duplicates and concepts? Where do we draw the line between 'pro' and 'amateur'? Links please, if you should have any, for us to better understand, what you are implying with your very first post. Is that what you're saying here? What happens when non St. Louis Cardinals fans / amateur artists 'duplicate' / create concepts? What are these obvious reasons you speak of? What do you mean by 'trust'? Any more links you can help us understand what you're saying here? You see, we're 'amateurs' here, creating concepts and would appreciated your understanding. Thank you so much for your understanding us 'amateurs' here at boards.sportslogos.net

Wow! I just realised the original artist is well over 114 years old! Is she / he okay? How is his / her health? Does she / he still create graphics for the St. Louis Cardinals? Please tell him / her "Hi!" from us amateurs here at boards.sportslogos.net. Thank you so much, Minor League Guy

I could help doing exact duplicates of older logos, if someone knew who to submit them to to have them uploaded to the site.

Making exact duplicates of older logos would be a great service to the community! Would you be willing to start with these St. Louis Cardinals historical "birds on the bat" logos, noting the differences in the evolution of the birds on the bat design over the years? The version on the Cardinals' page on the main site that is labelled as "1924 - 1948" should actually be 1936 - 1948; and the one that is labelled "1957 - 1997" should actually be 1966 - 1997. If you can do the other birds on the bat logos shown on this resource (other than the 1951 - 1955 and the 1966 and later logos on the sheet below, which are already on the main site), that would be great:

Thanks in advance for your willingness to make these older logos!

Hi, I sent this in to UniWatch last year as apart of the article we published, and the artist (on behalf of the St. Louis Cardinals) would appreciate that you do not try and duplicate these graphics, as they are already digitized, and those digitized versions have been deemed authentic. All other St. Louis Cardinals fan created graphics are not authentic and for obvious reasons should not be trusted. Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, who are these "I", "we", and "artist" you speak of? Links please. What's UniWatch? What article are you speaking of? Where was it published? Links please. What happens when 'amateurs' 'duplicate' sports graphics, or any graphics for that matter? Where can we see these authentic digitized graphics? Who deems digitized versions as authentic? Okay, so we, amateurs, shouldn't 'trust' any concepts / graphics / 'duplicates' created by other amateurs? Where do you draw the line between duplicates and concepts? Where do we draw the line between 'pro' and 'amateur'? Links please, if you should have any, for us to better understand, what you are implying with your very first post. Is that what you're saying here? What happens when non St. Louis Cardinals fans / amateur artists 'duplicate' / create concepts? What are these obvious reasons you speak of? What do you mean by 'trust'? Any more links you can help us understand what you're saying here? You see, we're 'amateurs' here, creating concepts and would appreciated your understanding. Thank you so much for your understanding us 'amateurs' here at boards.sportslogos.net

Guess she can work as the dancers logo

Yes, she is currently unemployed and looking for a job.

Ren, did you make the future Milwaukee Bucks Dancers logo, Emerald Rainbow? Is "D" for dancers?:

They're beautiful! 2014-15 Bambi and Emerald Rainbow. Thank you so much! You even put them on a diet, ha!

Ren, I believe your issue is the number of outside views, not necessarily no. of photos youve uploaded. There should be no need to delete photos, just join another like imgur and photobucket should automatically reset back to regular bandwidth in a month. I know from experience.

Thanks Elwood! I'll look into that, appreciate the help.

Happy to help. Here’s more info from photobucket, Bandwidth Exceeded (Look Who's Popular). For example, your winter Bango (thank you so much for making this), I copied it to my photobucket account so it won’t affect your bandwidth, but when others are linking your logos directly from your account that uses up your allotted free bandwidth for the month. When this happened to me I joined imgur and loaded pictures from there until photobucket reset. I’ve made my photobucket albums private in order to alleviate this from happening again:

My first and last attempt at "updating" Bambi (tinkered with the green)

Ren, I believe your issue is the number of outside views, not necessarily no. of photos you’ve uploaded. There should be no need to delete photos, just join another like imgur and photobucket should automatically reset back to regular bandwidth in a month. I know from experience.

ren,

Been following this site for years, but found this thread this morning. I read through it for more than an hour. Excellent work! I know there are a lot of requests, i saw them all. But i would like to share a couple of my own. Quality Las Vegas logos are hard to come by. Thanks!

Here are some clearer images:

From an old deadstock MLB licensee t-shirt for future reference:

I am sure hockey fans know this old time logo.

Here are bigger images:

First Mongol to reach the highest rank in Sumo history, the 68th Grand Champion Asashoryu's "Historical Champion" 2010 retirement ring(click to enlarge image):

I see this thread has turned into update everything for the Bucks.

For me this thread is a book, it tells a story about Ren's genuine love for things old through drawings and paintings. It's what brings me back, to turn the page, for the next picture.

Edit: To clarify any misunderstandings, this picture of Robert Indiana's MECCA art was only meant as a compliment and never a request.

Hi, I was referred here because I was looking for any higher quality image of solely the logo from this (Coyotes prototype) uniform:

Could I make a request for an updated version of this logo by itself?

Is this what you're looking for? Because this would be their alternate jersey logo:

Sticker, program, game worn patch from '73 and for good measure, a fun Knicks mascot. Does anyone else see a NY monogram?

Here you go

Ren, you gave Bango back his smile and antlers too! Thank you!

Here you go

Thought I'd throw a jersey on him, not sure if it works or even if it turned out alright for that matter. You guys decide.

Simple, yet so detailed, you've genuinely captured the essence of the originals and made them your own. I've been up all night following every line and shadow of your first artwork again and again, wondering how much of your time and effort it must have taken to make them meaningful and so perfect. I would be so proud of you if it ever graces Milwaukee's center circle... I met an old familiar face in the buck you drew… it was the original Bango. Thank you so much for making me smile.

OMG! I'm in tears! I can't find the words to describe this timeless masterpiece! I'm speechless! Thank you so much for your precious time, Ren! You truly restored it to its former glory! I can't stop looking at this beauty! Thank you

uofmfan13 if you want a updated logo just use the North Carolina Panthers logo

North Carolina Panthers?

Maybe he meant the lesser known name of the team?

North & South Carolina Panthers (of Anaheim).

Well that's what I wanna know. I like to consider myself a guru of sports logos, so I'm wondering if theres something I'm not familiar with.

Here you go, the North Carolina Panthers of Niketown

Been following this thread for a while and gotta say it has been really amazing what you have done here.

I'm surprised that no one has brought this one up yet, but how about the old Bucks logo?

Here's a hi-res version of that logo:

Actually, Bango was brought up many, many pages ago, though Ren didn't think he could add much or improve it then. I love the Bucks and the earlier versions of this logo, and I know Ren would do a wonderful revamp of this classic if he so chooses. Here are older designs where you can see subtle differences from what's being used today:

How would an Irish rainbow sweater look on Bango?

Took another shot at Cleveland browns logo using pic provided by Elwood.

Your Brownie's so adorable! Love, love every detail: curls, pug nose, pot belly, elf cleats… This is the best I've ever seen! Tweet @Browns?

I wish I had found this original artwork of Brownie much, much sooner . Hope you can use it for reference someday. The leprechaun and bulldog are captivating!

Elwood, you've got some great resources! These are great pics, wish I would've had them when I did the brownie logo. I usually just do a google search to help me out when needed but don't like spending to much time researching. Thanks for posting them! now I just may have to go back to the drawing board with this one.

Thanks Ren! I'm glad I could help. I just have fun finding these, almost like searching for the holy grail of logos. Is there such a logo? I mostly use Google in a couple languages, Bing and TinEye for better results. Here's one artwork I randomly found while looking for Brownie that you and everyone might enjoy:

I wish I had found this original artwork of Brownie much, much sooner . Hope you can use it for reference someday. The leprechaun and bulldog are captivating!