MrWonka

Has anyone checked up on avconcepts? He's since blocked me, and gone private, and I haven't tried anything else.

I kind of don't want to follow him for this reason, I'll use my personal account and report if he is still doing it.

The penguins stole wanka's but you really can't be mad at that

But it was on a hockey concept site

That sort of blind ambivalence is the most dangerous: that if a person/organization is big enough, it's not as bad - when in fact, it's way worse. Sure, they kept Wonka's name on the post, but it doesn't look like they credited him at all.

Can someone give more insight on this specific situation?

That appears to be a Photoshop job that either Wonka did himself or someone at HJC did to make it look like it came from the Penguins' official account.

ding ding ding. it was a presentation design I had to make it look like it was official.

i had that problemfor a long time. if you are using Intternet Explorer don't. Use firefox or chrome

I want to emphasize this not only just for getting an image in a thread but all the time; don't use IE.

Theres one guy who did NHL ones but he privated his account after I raided the comments. He stole from here and HockeyJerseyConcepts.com. Not sure if I should still report since I can't see the stuff on the account. I'd assume he does.

You should end on the 69th page

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Now THAT is a redesign.

And a very good one. Wow!

Dunn, your absolutely right about it being a grey area when it comes to updating/redesigning logos and the more I look at it the more I think it can even be called a modernization. So while I initially set out to establish an association between the two, at the end if the day...it is a redesign, lol. Thanks again for your thoughts on this! Just had an idea for a question of the day.

Q: what separates a redesign from a modernization?

Ren

I say : Redesign is taking a completely new style identity. For instance. the Buffalo Sabres going from Black Red and Silver and the 'goathead' back to Blue and Gold and the 'buffaslug'. Basically changing your whole style and look.

Modernization...something like you've done on some of your work and what the Atlanta Hawks did recently with their old logo. Similar or a reminder logo of a previous or old identity you had.

Once I have all of the fields finished I was planning on adding a grass texture to the fields as a finishing touch, and that's when I'll match the grass colors exactly. Right now though it's still a work in progress and I'm still making changes, so it's easier to just use default colors for now and then correct them later.

Respected

Was the grass really multi colored like that? I find it hard to believe for the first super bowls they had the grass like that. If so, then I forever will have a different picture in my head of earlier football games.

The different shades in the grass is an effect created by the direction in which the grass is mowed. But you can see from this picture from Super Bowl I that there are 2 different shades.

Yea I knew that, never knew that was something they did for the games back in the day. I think you should tone down the green used in the template however. It seems too neon for what is pictured. Makes it feel like it's turf rather than actual grass.

Was the grass really multi colored like that? I find it hard to believe for the first super bowls they had the grass like that. If so, then I forever will have a different picture in my head of earlier football games.

Please tell me you're just tracing in that video...ridiculous.

Yes, I already have the drawing laid out real light for the video. If I recorded the process from start to finish it would be too long. Just wanted to give everyone a general idea of how I go about doing these.

All this time I thought you were working with a Waccom tablet. Good work and steady hands.

No, I do all my work in Illustrator using the mouse. Tried using one a long while back but just couldn't get comfortable with it, who knows maybe someday I'll try one again.

I was about to say. That was ridiculously good. I thought you were straight drawing everything just by looking at the image next to you.

Regardless, I know a lot of people in my major who can't even do what you just did. Can't wait for part 2

Please tell me you're just tracing in that video...ridiculous.

I'm confused, are the listed people award winners or HOF inductees, and if it's awards then it would be nice to know what award they won. Also the Rookie of the year is kind of confusing, because people join at different times so how do you justify what a rookie is.

I think it's both

You can see when they join or when their first post was in the concept section. So if they posted their first time in 2013, then up until 2014 I think they'd be considered a rookie.

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// GUIDELINES //

Recipients of the prestigious Creamer Award will be measured against the following guidelines:

• Quality over Quantity (10 exceptional concepts are better than 95 standard concepts)
• Original Ideas
• Deep and Well Rounded (does the concept go above and beyond?)
• Concept Originated on or near the CCSLC

None of these criteria are impossible by any means, but they will require dedication, innovation, and a certain "x-factor" that is not found commonly in concepts.

// AWARDS //

On an ongoing basis, we will be awarding 6 awards per year:

• Best Overall Concept
• Best (Individual Sport) Concept
• Best Concept Series
• Rookie Of The Year
• Most Improved
• Best C&C

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I'm gunning for Rookie or Most Improved.

Although, I technically first posted a third kit in August 2013, so maybe not Rookie.

The way The Creamer Academy Awards will be run is that the 2014 Creamer Awards will recognize all the work and activity completed in 2013. Any work completed in this calendar year will be eligible for the 2015 Creamer Awards.

/// Reasoning ///

These awards are not a competition. We don't want people rushing their concepts, trying to sneak in under-the-wire to make the awards. In fact, we're hoping for the exact opposite, that this causes the artists of this forum to slow down and really dive into their concepts. We're trying to recognize the artists and members who go above and beyond, even when there wasn't seemingly an award for it.

This is also amazing for you guys running this. I mean that's a lot of work to go through most of the well done concepts in 2013. Finding one concept for the Concept of the Year will not only be a lot of searching, but a lot of debate. Kudos to you guys for taking your time out of the day to hold something like this.

This may be the coolest thing I've ever seen. Love all the work going into this. I have a feeling you're going to make the concepts section a place where people strive to make great work again.

uofmfan13 if you want a updated logo just use the North Carolina Panthers logo

North Carolina Panthers?

Maybe he meant the lesser known name of the team?

North & South Carolina Panthers (of Anaheim).

Well that's what I wanna know. I like to consider myself a guru of sports logos, so I'm wondering if theres something I'm not familiar with.

uofmfan13 if you want a updated logo just use the North Carolina Panthers logo

North Carolina Panthers?

I don't think he walks on water. However, he is very talented at updating logos.

Is it me or did every college team have a logo similar to this at some point? We've seen this type of logo like 4 other times in this series. Crazy how teams had similar logos.

Ren69-- The work you are doing here is beyond amazing. The attention to detail in your vectors, especially with the additional shading you have added really makes each one of these "updates", a work of art. I personally have a million different pics I'd love to see done, but if on your loooong list of requests you could take a shot at these, I'd greatly appreciate it

Ren do you mind if I take a crack at this. I'm not trying to threadjack or anything.

Go for it! All help is appreciated.

I hope I did this logo justice, It's not perfect but an update for sure

Like you said definite upgrade. However, I do think it could be improved on by making all the hair marks thicker. Some of the logos Ren re makes with small details he conjoins into thicker, bigger, and sharper cuts. I think that could really work here.

sounds good. fwiw, i think the 2nd of those logos has more potential for a reboot.

I hate to go off topic for a sec, but could you teach me how to make logos looks embroidered?

Ren couple of questions.

Which has been your favorite of this series so far?

By this I mean by both :

Which one has been your favorite transformation from original to your tweaked version?

And which one do you think you did the best job on? The one that you really fell in love with after?

Don't want to make you feel pressured with all of these requests. You seem amazing at this so if you think you can make it look better, and you're interested in 'refurbishing' it I'd love to see the Buffalo Bisons Bottle cap logo touched up. As much as I wish I could do it, I only think I'd come out frustrated and disgusted.

I guess what I would like to see is all the ruffled edges cleaned up. Theres a lot of pixels escaping everywhere that give it a vintage feel. I'd like to see a modern touch that you've been adding.

Hopefully you can get to this, if not, this series is still golden, love seeing all the great logos touched up to look even better!