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  1. The other problem the Bucks face is that their games are inaccessible to outstate (do we use "outstate" for Wisconsin like we do for Minnesota? halp) Wisconsinites in ways that Packers and Brewers games aren't. Most Packers games are on Sundays, they're events unto themselves. Brewers games are in the summer and thanks to the tailgate culture also events unto themselves, so it's generally easier for people to drive into town for games. Bucks games are in the winter, they're mostly on weeknights, you have to go downtown and deal with parking and traffic, you have to get back home possibly in crappy weather and then get home really late, it all gets to be sort of a pain for people in the Rest Of Wisconsin. And on top of all that, the Bucks are crappy, and on top of that, those thugs don't play for the love of the game like they do in college. Jabari Parker, what a thug!

    So there's really a lot of stuff conspiring against the Bucks having the Wisconsin-wide following that the other two pro teams and the Badgers have. That doesn't mean that the Bucks can't thrive as a Milwaukee-centric enterprise the way other small-market teams have, but they'll have to put a damn good team on the floor for once.

    As someone who lives in northwestern Wisconsin (Superior), the Bucks aren't even televised up here; we get the Timberwolves. It's only because of how MLB allocates its regional programming that I can watch the Brewers on an alternate satellite channel instead of the Twins. Basically, north of Eau Claire, we're the largest city in the northern-part of the state, and this area is entirely too hockey-crazed in the winter to care about the Bucks. Essentially, the admiral is correct, a lot is working against the organization from growing their fanbase statewide, most prominently is that they haven't been all that fun to watch. They would do well to cater more toward the Milwaukee metro region.

  2. I'm not sure if this belongs here, so I'm posting it in multiple spots. What's the deal with this jersey?


    I found it at the Marshall's in the Nicollet Mall. They only had then in children's sizes, but it clearly is the new uniform, but produced not as a Nike jersey, but as a Reebok EQT.

    There isn't any Reebok branding, but the equipment logo is at the collar, and on the hem. They had Ponder and Jennings for $35.

    Any ideas?

  3. I've seen both the limited and elite Vikings jersey side by side, and the only real difference is the body of the jersey; the solid torso versus the paneled.

    The limited is a far better value than the elite in the Vikings case.

  4. I would love Miller Park much more if it were downtown where it belongs instead of the Valley, away from the rest of Milwaukee because outstate fans are scurred of the big scurry city.

    Because it's so very, very far from the city... oh, wait, no, it's in the city, isn't it?

    It might technically be within Milwaukee's civic boundaries, but it's geophysically isolated from the rest of the city and accessible only by freeway (despite being built in an era when ballparks were being built to facilitate foot traffic) to where it may as well have been built in some remote Waukesha County suburb.

    Between this, the Brewers taking "Milwaukee" off their road jerseys the year they moved into Miller Park, and their sudden push to market themselves in Northern Wisconsin... even going so far as to claim the new park's roof was built to guarantee they could freely commute to games and not have to worry about rainouts... it's not hard to connect the dots to see who they were trying to facilitate.

    As for the whole needing to build Miller Park in the valley for tailgating thing.... I've never bought it. The old Park East Freeway was demolished around that time, and that would've been the perfect spot for a new Brewers stadium.

    God forbid I travel seven hours only to have a game rained out and not be able to attend the game(s).

    Target Field is in downtown Minneapolis and the atmosphere before the game sucks. Miller and its location are far more fan friendly.

  5. So in short, while I do like these "retro ballparks", there is a homogeneity going on and it would be nice if there was still a County Stadium and a few more of those.

    As much as I love Miller Park, I still miss County Stadium.

    I would love Miller Park much more if it were downtown where it belongs instead of the Valley, away from the rest of Milwaukee because outstate fans are scurred of the big scurry city.

    I come down from Superior twice per season. There isn't anyone more "outstate" than me without literally being from outside the state.

    The three minutes it takes to get from Miller to downtown Milwaukee isn't that big of a deal.

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