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Sykotyk

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  1. SD burned their bridge. To put that much money into a team's rival to lure them there? Not happening. Only way is if the NFL somehow orchestrated a deal: Spanos gives up the Chargers name, Davis gives up the Raiders name. And they switch names only. All to piss off Kroenke.
  2. Technically, the league controls the franchise. The 'business' is a separate entity who holds the rights to a franchise. Franchises can be revoked. If the NFL really wants to 'protect the shield', stopping an owner from ruining the league's reputation by moving them in such a craptastic manner that is turning off fans all across the country for the greedy act it is, could be a reason to 'protect the shield'. If a McDonald's franchisee is caught dealing heroin out of the back room, it probably won't stay a McDonald's for long. It no longer meets their standards and they can revoke it.
  3. The Chargers are simply an excuse to use a very expensive stadium 10 more times a year. The NFL loved using San Diego for the Super Bowl until they deemed it 'too small' in an effort to nudge the city to building a new shrine to football. But, now that the new Inglewood stadium is being built, San Diego will never be in the rotation for a Super Bowl again.
  4. Yeah, a lot of owners have done that. Which is why almost every relocation is approved. Davis did it moving the Raiders back to Oakland. And, I agree on the Raiders. They had Las Vegas already in talks while they were trying for LA (plus inklings of San Antonio as well). I think, either way, they were moving from Oakland. It was just a matter of which one they got. I don't think the Raiders thought they'd be the 'second tenant' in LA. If it were Raiders/Chargers, the Raiduhs would definitely be the most popular team in LA. And I do believe Kroenke didn't want the Raiders in LA as there is still a sizable fanbase and it was sure to increase if they returned. So, agreeing to the NFL's plan to allow the Chargers was an easy agreement to get the NFL to okay the Rams stadium.
  5. The LA deal has just been a cluster. First, the NFL used the open LA market to squeeze stadiums out of almost every city available. Then, when two competing 'visions' for moving to LA happened (Rams by themselves or Chargers/Raiders), the league liked the Rams stadium idea better, but for whatever reason decided to, in one meeting, arrange for the Chargers and Raiders (in that order) the option to join the Rams in their stadium. Now, since they gave the Chargers one full year before giving them the ultimatum, it created a lame duck year in San Diego when it was clear from the get-go that San Diego was not going to bend to the will of the Chargers, and they had essentially determined that no stadium option by San Diego was going to be make them stay. And by giving the Raiders the second choice, it basically forced the Chargers to choose: you get LA or you get another regional competitor in LA. The Chargers didn't exactly negotiate in good faith with SD (just as the Rams didn't) because they wanted LA, but the NFL could have nipped this in the bud back when they agreed to let the Rams move. Just say no to Raiders and Chargers, and maybe Spanos would've taken the San Diego deal.
  6. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/15/only-one-city-could-keep-the-raiders-from-going-to-las-vegas/ If, and IF, San Diego somehow decided to come up with the money to lure the Raiders to San Diego.... one thing I think the NFL should strongly look into is another 'team swap'. Switch the Chargers name to the Raiders with Spanos as owner in LA, and let Davis have the Chargers name in San Diego. If the Raiders go to San Diego instead of LA (or LV, even), and the Chargers are in LA, then the NFL would have truly jumped the shark.
  7. Nah. But, other than Jacksonville, I now see a good candidate for London.
  8. Yep. When Modell died, the NFL announced, unilaterally, that there would be a moment of silence in every stadium that weekend. Well, the Browns were hosting a game that weekend. And the Browns, even realizing it was a horrible idea, tried to get the NFL to let them out of doing it. But, the NFL insisted the Browns have a moment of silence. The fans were livid. Whether the NFL really were persuaded by the Modell's or not, they used the Browns fans as some sort of heathens and propped the Modell Family up as some paragon of righteousness by saying the Modell's had asked the NFL not to require the Browns to have a moment of silence because they didn't want any 'issues'. So, rather than letting teams do their own thing, one team was about to be forced to do something 99% of their fan base would disapprove. Something the team knew was trouble and didn't want to do. Then, when the NFL realized their brazen mistake, passed it off as some magnanimous act by the Modell's. And yes, had they went through with it, it would've been the loudest boos the stadium had ever heard.
  9. As a Browns fan, I was 13 when they moved. Though I followed college football, the NFL was such a big deal that I still watched in their absence. Knowing shortly after the move that Cleveland would get the Browns back certainly helped tide me over for the 3 years. Also, I latched onto the expansion Carolina Panthers for three years, and still have a soft spot for them all these years later. Given my age, I think I would've stayed a Panthers fan HAD the Browns never come back. And if it weren't the Browns, I doubt I would ever have cheered for a Cleveland-based NFL team again. I'm far enough away that it wasn't the overwhelming logistical choice. But I know MANY Browns fans, mostly extended family, that were diehard fans who not only stopped following the Browns upon their return, but generally just stopped watching the NFL at all after the move. The Browns aren't their team. The NFL sold them out rather than forcing Modell to sell when it was clear there was a way for the team to succeed in Cleveland. Hell, Modell didn't want to sell, but shortly after moving to Baltimore he still sold half the team (and eventually the rest minus 1%), and could have easily funded the team in light of selling a percentage. Something he had to do anyways. If I weren't 13 at the time. If say, I was 30 when that happened. I think my interest in the NFL would be nil. I'm in my 30s now, and just following how the league has become bigger than its teams, has turned me off from it. I was a Browns season ticket holder for 11 years before giving them up before last year. My biggest complaint is ANY time I talked to the ticket rep about things taking place with the team or stadium, the default answer was "that's an NFL policy" or "the NFL made us", such as the Browns announcing Hines Wards' passing a particular passing milestone at Cleveland Browns Stadium. The NFL almost forcing the Browns to have a moment of silence for Art Modell was 'NFL's decision' and then to pander to "Oh, the Modell's asked for Cleveland not to" rather than the obvious "We let our teams decide whether to hold the moment of silence".
  10. Part of the deal is a prohibition on the team being sold for a period of time (I believe it was 10 years, but not sure and don't feel like digging through articles about it). But, the NFL knows whichever team went to LA would become a financial juggernaut overnight. So, to offset that, they introduced the relocation fee AND put off the ability for the new owner to just sell the team at a profit after the move.
  11. I'm curious what the fan support San Diego State will get next season. Will they see an appreciable increase as fans switch to another football team in absence of the Chargers.
  12. Well, it is their stadium. AND, MLS just released their schedule today. There's no way that the Galaxy or MLS would rework that schedule when I'm sure it's already been worked into many items for the public (posters, schedule cards, graphics, etc) as well as maybe for the team managers working on notifying partners on which dates they need hotels reserved, transportation, etc, in advance. What will be interesting is if the Galaxy make the playoffs. Will there be Sunday afternoon games and will the Chargers get booted to Monday night because of it, etc?
  13. As much as it seemed nice for them to return to Oakland in the 90s, it was a horrible decision financially. Oakland has never REALLY supported the Raiders the way they expected. And though Mount Davis was built, it's a hack-job of a stadium that ruined it for the A's and the Raiders are 'second fiddle'. The move was a brash 'show of power' by Davis, and it backfired horribly. He left a highly profitable market that was impossible to survive in due to horrifically oversized venues (Coliseum and Rose Bowl were both way too big for NFL prices) that put them under the blackout rules of the time AND with mandatory scheduling put them under the sun in the afternoon to start the season (similar problem Arizona ran into). If Raiders move, there's no way they get another team. San Francisco won't want it as they can claim the whole bay for marketing and tickets. And with Levi's stadium attendance being what it is, the competition just won't allow them to be complacent. Secondly, Oakland SHOULDN'T build a stadium for an NFL team. Just as I don't think San Diego should. Even in Las Vegas, the government is putting in about 3/8th the total cost, which is a lot, but it's not as bad as it could be. It's still private enterprise doing it. Davis doesn't have the money to do it. And the fanbase isn't large enough to finance such a stadium themselves. The only option to stay 'in Oakland' would be to pull a NY/LA and join the 49ers at Levi's. And I don't think the NFL really wants that, let alone because they've just agreed to do it with Los Angeles.
  14. Indoor Football team in Evansville, Indiana were the "Evansville BlueCats". It's a decent name and imagery. Though it's clear the Waco BlueCats did it much better. And I really like the hook W, nice touch.
  15. If a school wanted out, I don't see how the ACC could enforce this. Especially with public universities. They wouldn't sign away their rights without some sort of out clause. Every contract has some sort of out for both parties. To not would be utterly foolish and could be argued it wasn't negotiated in good faith by both sides.
  16. Considering it was a name the team contest, I doubt they had logo mock-ups before settling on Chihuahuas. So, to slap together something simple for one game wasn't going to really have their A-game.
  17. I'd only agree because the conferences are geographically divided. MLB and NFL have both overlapped with E/W, E/C/W, and E/N/S/W. But their conferences are nationwide.
  18. If I were betting, UCF gets in just to try to tap into the Florida market. Both for television and for recruits. Much easier to tell a Florida kid that if you play in Kansas you'll be in Florida once or twice in a four year career where it's easy for friends or family to see you play as a bargaining chip. I seriously doubt Houston unless that's something Texas wants to keep an in-state rival in the league and help tap into the Houston market with their Longhorn network if there's little coverage there.
  19. From my home, it's roughly 1 hour to the nearest NHL team. 1.5 hours to the nearest AHL team. 1.75 hours to the nearest ECHL team. 1.75 hours to the nearest OHL team. And 5 minutes to the nearest USHL team. I have no desire to pay NHL prices (nor see the Pens) and the team in the NHL I do like (Blue Jackets) are too far away. AHL is a bit of a haul. As are the ECHL team and OHL team. Closest is USHL and worth the money and time to travel. I've seen ECHL games, and for the price, there isn't much of a step down to USHL. They're just younger trying to get to the professional ranks. Instead of seeing struggling ECHLers, I get to see a player like Kyle Connor who is now with the Winnipeg Jets. I much prefer the lower levels of hockey. I love watching NHL on TV, but have no desire to pay the price to see it in person. Teams reference above in order: Pittsburgh Penguins NHL, Lake Erie Monsters AHL, Wheeling Nailers ECHL, Erie Otters OHL, and Youngstown Phantoms USHL.
  20. Now that's awesome brand identity. Is that all tickets or just the season tickets? Either way, I like it.
  21. The problem with Texas is they don't realize they're the problem.
  22. Please just stay away from the SouthEast Louisiana MetroDawggzz or something horrific like that. New Orleans Jazz. Now, that I would be okay with. A nice little F-U to the NBA at the same time.
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