Similar to what I said before, I do think the N with the * is a bit boring. As far as the concept, after viewing your Midshipmen logo (seen here) - I felt that the anchor needed to be more prominent in their branding, as it's a major symbol for the Navy and included in the Marine logo. I was sketching out an anchor one day and saw the A & V creating it. I tend to have an eye for that type stuff, it's the execution that throws me off. (Another example of this - seeing that an eagle could create an 'S' in negative space before actually drawing it out) After seeing some of the feedback, I think i'm going to rework it a little and post the product here soon. Here it is... Thank you aeargle, for letting me use your logo/secondary logo/vertical wordmark/etc. Insignia meanings : One diagonal : Freshman Two diagonals : Sophomore One horizontal : Junior Two parallel : Senior Players with stars on their badges would be the captains.... I like it. Very simple, very strong, very Navy.