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  1. Any hint what direction you might take with Toronto?

    Toronto is tough for me because they switched back to their classic design three years ago. Looking through their history, so many of their current elements are the best they have ever been. This is the best blue jay, main logo, hat logo, etc.; this is their best font. So I am struggling to figure out how to incorporate previous elements to truly combine eras.

    I should also mention that right now my designing time has been focused on creating a new logo for the school I teach/coach at. I need to have the logo done in the next week or two to incorporate it into some new uniforms.

    I would like to see aspects of the 2003 logo, 89-96 road jersey, 77-92? home cap, 94-96 alt jersey. Although i am a White Sox fan, the Blue Jays are my 2nd favorite uniforms, even the bad ones. My team that I play as of now on OOTP is based off of the Blue Jays uniforms.

    http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/earlier-versions-ootp-general-discussions/232466-game-s-thanx-uniform-makers-thread-5.html#post3653154


  2. Here are the Rays. I decided that dropping Devil from their name shouldn't mean that the ray needed to be deemphasized. There are the Bengals, but most teams go with the less specific Tigers. Of course, they still do have a ray on there sleeve, but I wanted to restore it to a place of prominence.

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    There were a couple of ways I could have gone with this, but my hardest decision was on what fonts/marks to use. I'm not a big fan of any of them but, obviously, I went with their current font.

    I think I did a fairly good job of combining their past two looks, but their first few years were just atrocious. Their one redeemable part was their ray logo (without the hideous gradient oval). I could perhaps be talked into using a gradient stroke like this:

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    The Rays wordmark now contains both the sun ray and the devil (manta, etc.) ray. I am a little concerned there is too much going on, but it the different rays at least are in opposite corners.

    I decided to stay away from their fauxback look. If it would have actually been a look for them, I would have tried to incorporate it. It is kind of fun, but it seems very forced to me. If you didn't exist in the '70s, I don't feel the need to try to incorporate that look into my design.

    Please let me know what you think. I am happy with the design, but could be persuaded to go in some different directions. Do I need to change anything?

    Not a fan of the Ray on 4 hats. 1 yes, would like to see an alt black with the ray on it.


  3. Thank you for all the complements on the Royals.

    Any hints what you might be planning for the Twins?

    I can do better. I can post the concept.

    The Twins already do a great job of incorporating different eras into their designs. For example, they brought back the twins-shaking-hands logo that they used as a logo from 1961 to 1986. Also their cursive Minnesota script is an update of an original script.

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    The most difficult decision for me was which Twins script to use. I decided that their current mark is more unique than having another cursive script. They also won their first World Series the year they switched to their current script (and won another four years later). I did decide to emphasize navy in the uniform though to tie in the first 11 years of their time in Minnesota.

    I decided to give them pinstripes on the road. No one has this look right now in MLB, and it isn't my favorite, but I thought one team could make it work. The Twins have used pinstripes on their gray jersey for 22 years (I don't know of any other team who wore them longer in the fairly recent past), so I thought they were the best candidate for that look. I also brought back the M-hat for road games, so now the home hat honors the Twin Cities, while the road hats represent all of Minnesota.

    I removed the drop-shadows from the logo and replaced it with a white stroke. I think that it gives the logo a sharper look.

    to me it looks no different then what they have this year or over the last few years.

    would have liked to see the cursive font on at least one home jersey. one red TC cap and maybe a red alt. i know they only wore teh red alt for like one year but it looks cool. how do i upload an attachment so i can show ya guys what i am seeing?


  4. ROYALSLOGOS.png

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    First of all, I am a big Royals fan. (Exciting time to be a Royals fan. Hopefully they can make the playoffs for the first time since I have been alive. They won the World Series 16 months before I was born.) I am probably biased, but I think they have one of the best looking uniform sets in the league. I love nearly everything about their look, but I did tweak them. Most people probably don't know this, but the Royals actually still have a drop shadow on the KC in their main and alternate logos. So I decided to go back to the drop-shadow days but substitute gold for the black. I added drop-shadows throughout...even to the hat. I don't know how it will go over. I also really like their original (brighter) royal blue and gold, so I went back to those colors. (I also changed the hat squatchee to blue.) The brighter blue and the drop-shadows also help differentiate them from the Dodgers, which is the biggest complaint I hear about the Royals' uniforms.

    I know lots of people want the Royals to go back to powder blue on the road, but I just don't like brightly colored pants. So no, I won't give the Royals blue pants. Sorry.

    I switched the powder blue to the Kansas City script, even though it is a home alternate. I know it is unconventional, but I like the look. I also went with the KC script on the powder blue because I would really want to own this exact jersey.

    At first I wasn't sure I liked the new royal blue alternates, but they have really grown on me. I tweaked it (added the drop-shadow, etc.) but mainly left it unchanged. The alternate hat is a reverse of their powder blue hats they wore in 2010-11.

    Coco, I did try out looks that incorporated the Monarchs, but I couldn't get anything that I really liked. The split KC hats and jerseys that they wore worked because they used thick block letters. All of the Royals' scripts and logos are too thin to make it a good look. I also thought about doing the overlapping K and C hat, but it still didn't work too well. I also don't want to do throwback alternates that are completely different from the rest of their visual package.

    Would like to see a powder blue cap for the alt powder blue and a black cap for the alt royal blue.


  5. Cleveland is gonna be tricky. To use Wahoo or not use Wahoo, that is indeed the question.

    That is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of Chief Wahoo haters or to take arms against the Anti-Wahoo crowd... (sorry, English teacher humor that no one else will find funny).

    I'm leaning toward not using it. It is such a major part of their identity that it can certainly be argued that it should be a part of a combination-of-eras concept. But I live about 10 minutes from an Indian reservation, teach quite a few Indians, play in a softball league at the reservation, etc. so my thoughts of Chief Wahoo have probably changed since when I lived in Ohio. I don't see it as is a positive portrayal of native cultures, so I will try to do a concept without it.

    I took some time off from this project to do a Cavs redesign for a ESPN/Paul Lukas quasi-contest. Now my wife and I will be biking 400 miles over the next 5 days with about 90 others to help raise money for a missions agency. I might have some time in the evenings to work on concepts, but I'm not sure. So it might be a while until I can really focus on the Indians.

    Thanks again for your continued interest.

    How do i add attachments?


  6. For the Sox fonts, try tracing or something with the Chicago 2 font on here. It looks to be a very close match to what the White Sox have for the "Sox" logo they have now.

    Yeah, that would be great. I don't have the skill to trace fonts (especially at that low of a resolution), but if anyone would do these fonts, I know many people on the boards would be ecstatic (including me).

    I understand with what you guys are saying with the Expos but I just want the Epos as it's self. What I was thinking maybe for Tampa Bay do like Navy blue, light blue, white, gray, yellow and black

    I am doing the current MLB teams, and I don't have any plans of doing defunct teams.

    Here are some things I have been working on with the White Sox. As I showed several days ago, I tried decreasing the spacing, and I think it looks better. As I said earlier, I needed to center the o and x with the S to fit the batter in the main logo. The first option is what the home uni looks like on the jersey and hat with the same Sox mark from the main logo. I also wanted to see what it would look like when I dropped the o and x back to where they were on my first attempt. The second example shows this.

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    I do like how the first one matches the new main logo, but I think I prefer the second one. Which do you like better, or are neither of them working. Again, I tried making all letters the same size, but I couldn't stand how the weights/thickness of the o and x was bigger than the S, thus giving them extra emphasis. So I won't be doing that (unless someone can make the capital letter O and X from the Chicago 2 font cappital92 mentioned).

    I also tried the gray jersey with a straightened version of the Chicago script they used from 1902-16, 30-38, and 76-81 (and similar designs--but different fonts--were used for many of the other years). I really like this jersey because of it ties in a script used different times going back all the way to their second year of existence. What do you think?

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    Also, the hat that went with the black jersey will go away and will be replaced with either the home/away hats or their flying sock logo (I think the batter logo would work better as a BP hat).

    Thank you all for your interest in this series. Help me decide what to do with the Sox. Are these improvements or should I go in a different direction?

    i like these a little bit more, still not a fan of SOX spelled out like that and if there was a way to have it like it is now going down it might look better. The Sox have had it like it is now with variations since around WWII approx. Would have liked to see some alts with other tyears involved. 1964-1968, 1972, 1977?, 1987-1990, 19teens road black, 1959 home that had a tad bit of red in it.


  7. For the White Sox I basically combined their current logo with their early 80s logo. They have such a long history it was hard to pick just these two, but I think the team that Bill Veeck owned needs to look unlike any other team in the big leagues. This look does that while keeping their famous calligraphy-style Sox mark.

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    Many probably won't like the white socks, but I think the White Sox should wear white socks, and it also helps combine eras. The striping helps it from being too bland.

    Not too much else to add. The wing on the alternate logo is taken from a Ren redesign. Thanks, also, to coco1997 for sharing some of his ideas with me.

    Also, no, I will not give them shorts.

    Just for fun I made them a halfway to St. Patrick's Day uni. (This idea came from coco. Thanks.)

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    As a Sox fan I hate this one. while you got it right going with the early 80's softball style jerseys i dont like the Sox spelled out omn this one. that being said I will use it on OOTP after Pwal makes it. i was hoping that you might have incorparated these into it. I do like the logo.

    not sure on how to attach files on this site so here are links

    http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/earlier-versions-ootp-general-discussions/232466-game-s-thanx-uniform-makers-thread-5.html#post3622628

    some of the early black white sox road jerseys with the custom one here:

    http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/earlier-versions-ootp-general-discussions/232466-game-s-thanx-uniform-makers-thread-4.html#post3611949

    was hoping to see some red on it from the 59 Sox.