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  1. I like your every other week idea because dedicating two weeks per decade for the entire season might be a little too ambitious, considering it is, like you said, the No Fun League. Plus for marketing purposes the NFL would still want the teams to wear their "present day" uniforms throughout the year so I think alternating throwback weeks solves the problem nicely. I really like the idea of either fauxbacks or adopt-a-defunct-franchise uniforms for the teams that didn't exist in certain decades. I'm surprised you don't think this could happen for real though. Keep in mind the 75th season in 1994 was a major step forward for the NFL as far as how it treated anniversary seasons and throwback uniforms (the first ever league-wide throwback year) so if an organization as conservative as the NFL could go forward with such an out-of-character and progressive season as 1994, I'm sure they won't hold anything back for 2019, whether it be with throwbacks, fauxbacks, throw forwards, season-long Color Rush games on Thursday nights, or whatever. If 1994 taught us anything, it is to expect some wild uniforms, and a 100th anniversary only happens once and is more important and more impressive than a 75th anniversary, so the league will make certain it will be a season to remember, and a major way of doing that will be with memorable uniforms.
  2. Yes, they did have the same uniforms throughout the 60's, but as seen in your second photo, in 1969 they had to wear the "50th Anniversary of the NFL" shoulder patch on both their blue and white jerseys. So 1969 was the only year between 1960 and 1969 that a new element was added that made their uniforms unique that season (but not unique from the rest of the league because every team had to wear the patch as well). That would be interesting for the 100th anniversary celebration: a throwback from the 50th anniversary complete with the 50th anniversary patch. Only question is, do you also put the 100th anniversary patch on the jersey? That might be a bit much, so if any patch is going to be worn it would be the 100th anniversary patch, to ensure no confusion in the future. Patch or no patch, it's the same uniform The 1969 Colts uniform is not the same as the 1960 through 1968 Colts uniform. The 50th Anniversary of the NFL patch was worn in 1969, giving the uniform a unique design element for that year. How does that make it the same uniform worn from 1960 to 1968 when the patch wasn't worn from 1960 to 1968? Yes, without the patch it's the same uniform as 1960 to 1968, but the fact the patch was worn in 1969 makes the uniform completely stand out in my mind that year. It makes it unique for that season so that's why I don't consider it to be the same exact uniform.
  3. Now, would this be a color vs color, white vs color, or white vs white, depending on what the other team wore? However, I would say that this would look interesting on a modern jersey. However, I expect never to be replicated as a throwback of sorts. I would consider a game featuring that jersey to be color vs color, because half of it is white (a neutral color) and pitting it against a team wearing all-white jerseys would be too visually confusing. The only colors with enough contrast against the dark blue half AND the white half would be orange or red, so I could totally see a game played between teams wearing the above two-tone jersey and a team wearing an all-orange or all-red jersey. Obviously the jersey would need numbers on the front before it could be worn in today's NFL. I think adding them the same way they appear on the back would be really cool, but how would you treat single numbers? Would you need special two tone numerals, split down the middle into two halves (one dark blue and one white) made just for players who wear single numbers? That's what I would do. However that would probably be hard to read from a distance so either white numbers with dark blue outlines or dark blue numbers with white outlines would also work for single numbered jerseys.
  4. Yes, they did have the same uniforms throughout the 60's, but as seen in your second photo, in 1969 they had to wear the "50th Anniversary of the NFL" shoulder patch on both their blue and white jerseys. So 1969 was the only year between 1960 and 1969 that a new element was added that made their uniforms unique that season (but not unique from the rest of the league because every team had to wear the patch as well). That would be interesting for the 100th anniversary celebration: a throwback from the 50th anniversary complete with the 50th anniversary patch. Only question is, do you also put the 100th anniversary patch on the jersey? That might be a bit much, so if any patch is going to be worn it would be the 100th anniversary patch, to ensure no confusion in the future.
  5. I would actually love this Since they have 2 weeks for each decade they could have a home and away so you see both unis for that decade, that would be an awesome season. Only if no team ever played any back to back games as either the home or road team. Which, you know, has never happened. Yes, it isn't guaranteed that a team would be able to show its home uniform for that decade one week and its road uniform for that decade the other week, but some teams have worn two or more completely different style uniform sets within the same decade so this would give teams the opportunity to show off at least two of them. I mean, how often are the, say, 1960 uniforms of one team exactly the same as their 1969 uniforms? Do this with any decade and any team and chances are you'll find some big differences between the two uniform sets. Some teams would have to go color jersey one week and white jersey the next week because their uni's were the same for the entire decade but other teams that made a lot of changes would get to choose two different years from the same decade with two distinct uniform sets. For example, the Denver Broncos could wear their 1960 yellow and brown throwbacks with the vertically striped socks in Week 9, and then wear their orange helmet with the crazy cartoon white horse throwbacks in Week 10. A home jersey from one year one week and an away jersey from the same year the next week is just the tip of the iceberg.
  6. Yes, I expect a diamond logo again too, as explained in my previous post above. Yes, the fact that players must wear the same helmet for an entire season definitely throws a wrench in everyone's throwback fantasies. Era correct throwback games would have been cool this year for each game that was a Super Bowl rematch. Think about it: Super Bowl rematches in the same uniforms that were worn in each Super Bowl game. That would be pretty cool! How about this idea: for the 2019 season, each week honors a different decade with uniforms throwing back to that decade. It would breakdown like this: Week 1: 1920's Week 2: 1930's Week 3: 1940's Week 4: 1950's Week 5: 1960's Week 6: 1970's Week 7: 1980's Week 8: 1990's Week 9: 2000's Week 10: 2010's Obviously after week 10 there is a problem of what to do now. Do you continue with this timeline, going into future decades with futuristic "throw forward" uniforms? If so it would breakdown like this: Week 11: 2020's Week 12: 2030's Week 13: 2040's Week 14: 2050's Week 15: 2060's Week 16: 2070's Week 17: 2080's Obviously the concept uniforms shown through these weeks would be either insanely cool or insanely stupid. So maybe after week 10 it should just be Color Rush uniforms for the rest of the year? What do you guys think of this idea? I've adjusted my schedule. If you dedicate *two* weeks per decade, week 17 ends up being dedicated to the 2000's and it works out perfectly. Take a look: Week 1: 1920's Week 2: 1920's Week 3: 1930's Week 4: 1930's Week 5: 1940's Week 6: 1940's Week 7: 1950's Week 8: 1950's Week 9: 1960's Week 10: 1960's Week 11: 1970's Week 12: 1970's Week 13: 1980's Week 14: 1980's Week 15: 1990's Week 16: 1990's Week 17: 2000's Playoffs / Super Bowl: normal 2010's uniforms I actually like this idea a million times better than my original idea. Thoughts?
  7. Yes, I expect a diamond logo again too, as explained in my previous post above. Yes, the fact that players must wear the same helmet for an entire season definitely throws a wrench in everyone's throwback fantasies. Era correct throwback games would have been cool this year for each game that was a Super Bowl rematch. Think about it: Super Bowl rematches in the same uniforms that were worn in each Super Bowl game. That would be pretty cool! How about this idea: for the 2019 season, each week honors a different decade with uniforms throwing back to that decade. It would breakdown like this: Week 1: 1920's Week 2: 1930's Week 3: 1940's Week 4: 1950's Week 5: 1960's Week 6: 1970's Week 7: 1980's Week 8: 1990's Week 9: 2000's Week 10: 2010's Obviously after week 10 there is a problem of what to do now. Do you continue with this timeline, going into future decades with futuristic "throw forward" uniforms? If so it would breakdown like this: Week 11: 2020's Week 12: 2030's Week 13: 2040's Week 14: 2050's Week 15: 2060's Week 16: 2070's Week 17: 2080's Obviously the concept uniforms shown through these weeks would be either insanely cool or insanely stupid. So maybe after week 10 it should just be Color Rush uniforms for the rest of the year? What do you guys think of this idea? How would they make different uniforms for 7 different decades that haven't happened yet. I get that "throwing it forward" has been tried in sports, but how would a 2060 uniform be different from a 2070 uniform? Would they just make each one uglier and uglier as the season goes? And Color Rush for 7 straight weeks?! Are you out of your mind? How a 2060 uniform would differ from a 2070 uniform would be up to the designer. Color Rush for 7 straight weeks is totally possible. Think about it: most teams have at least three colors in their color scheme: white, primary, and secondary. For teams like the Colts and Jets, you could have white, primary, and gray. So that's at least three monochrome uniform sets per team, some with more like the Ravens (all black, all purple, all white, all gold) and Jaguars (all black, all teal, all white, all gold) and Seahawks (all navy, all neon green, all white, all gray). Hell, you could add gray to every team as a neutral color and then most teams would have at least four different monochrome uniforms to choose from. I've been wanting to see the Steelers in all white for a while now, ever since I saw old footage of them wearing white pants with their white jerseys in the early 70's. I'm not out of my mind, I think Color Rush is pretty cool and gives us a nice preview as to the direction both Nike and the league are taking us as far as uniforms are concerned. I like new and different ideas that make life interesting. What's wrong with that?
  8. Good catch about how none of my example uniforms are from beyond the 50's. The latest one is from 1953, and this is when people were just starting to get TV's. What did TV look like in the early days? Black and white. So the whole reason football uniforms started adding more white was to increase contrast on black and white TV's! The all-white away jersey was not a common thing before the 50's and therefore color vs color match ups were very common pre-TV. And what is Color Rush? Color vs color! Case closed bro.
  9. Yes, I expect a diamond logo again too, as explained in my previous post above. Yes, the fact that players must wear the same helmet for an entire season definitely throws a wrench in everyone's throwback fantasies. Era correct throwback games would have been cool this year for each game that was a Super Bowl rematch. Think about it: Super Bowl rematches in the same uniforms that were worn in each Super Bowl game. That would be pretty cool! How about this idea: for the 2019 season, each week honors a different decade with uniforms throwing back to that decade. It would breakdown like this: Week 1: 1920's Week 2: 1930's Week 3: 1940's Week 4: 1950's Week 5: 1960's Week 6: 1970's Week 7: 1980's Week 8: 1990's Week 9: 2000's Week 10: 2010's Obviously after week 10 there is a problem of what to do now. Do you continue with this timeline, going into future decades with futuristic "throw forward" uniforms? If so it would breakdown like this: Week 11: 2020's Week 12: 2030's Week 13: 2040's Week 14: 2050's Week 15: 2060's Week 16: 2070's Week 17: 2080's Obviously the concept uniforms shown through these weeks would be either insanely cool or insanely stupid. So maybe after week 10 it should just be Color Rush uniforms for the rest of the year? What do you guys think of this idea?
  10. I don't know about that, the 50th anniversary of the Super Bowl is pretty special, and the reason the shield is gold this year is because gold is the symbol of 50th anniversaries, so I don't think the NFL would want to reuse it for the 100th anniversary of the league because then in the future there would be confusion about which season it was used in. Even though 100th anniversaries don't have an official symbol I think reusing the black and gold NFL shield wouldn't be smart. They'll probably go all chrome or all crystal or just simply add the number 100 to the inside of the logo or beneath it. The NFL likes to use traditional symbols of specific anniversary years. In 1994, the 75th season of the league, all teams wore a special diamond shaped patch on their jerseys (the diamond is the symbol of 75th anniversaries, commonly known as "diamond anniversaries"). I don't know why 100th anniversaries don't have a traditional symbol; they should because they are important and impressive occasions. However, after some Googling it seems like the modern-day symbol for 100th anniversaries is the 10 carat diamond, so if the NFL is going to reuse any logo for the 100th season, the most appropriate would be the diamond-shaped 75th season logo but obviously with a 100 replacing the 75. My Googling also told me that apparently most people use purple as the color for 100th anniversary celebrations, so as of right now I'm predicting some kind of purple diamond logo is what the 100th season jersey patch will look like!
  11. WOW! Great concept! Now that you mention it, a throwback year where every team wears throwbacks (or fauxbacks) to the 1920's, the first decade of the NFL, would be absolutely awesome! And the 100th Season in 2019 would be the PERFECT year to do this!!! I am loving your concept uniforms. I am a sucker for American football jerseys that have a big logo on the chest and then tiny numbers above it off to one side. I am loving your Dayton Triangles throwback, my only recommendation for possible improvement though would be to swap the chest numbers with the triangle logo, to make it more accurate to how the original uniforms looked. Plus the team they are playing in your matchup, the Canton Bulldogs, have a giant C on their chest so the two teams would then match stylistically. As far as your other teams go, I am totally feeling your Duluth Eskimos, Providence Steamroller would be a great shout out to the tiny state of Rhode Island and all their loyal Pats fans, your Frankford Yellow Jackets concept is freakin' AMAZING, and even though the following uniform isn't from the 20's, I think the NFL making an exception and having a uniform from the 30's would be okay considering how UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME your 1936 Giants throwback is! Wow! (One question though: why does it have a yellow facemask?) I also love the old English "B" on the chest of the Brecks uniforms. Overall I am very impressed and wouldn't be surprised if the NFL actually did something like your concept if not exactly how you presented it! Good job man! And if this concept DOES become a reality, there MUST BE a throwback for the uniform below: That jersey would sell like hotcakes!!!!
  12. Actually the Browns were the only team to not have throwback uniforms in 1994. I don't know why, I guess because their regular uniforms never really changed throughout their history, but they did have all-white helmets in the 40's and early 50's so that would have been an interesting look. Maybe because the plain orange helmet acts as the logo of the team they didn't want to mess with it for marketing purposes? But come on, have a little fun, the throwbacks are only for two or three games tops!
  13. Considering the NFL had it's first major throwback uniform season in 1994 to celebrate the league's 75th season, I've been wondering for years how the NFL's 100th season in 2019 would look as far as uniforms are concerned. Since it is now only three years away I thought I would make a post about it so we can see who was right when 2019 does finally get here. If the 75th season can give us any ideas, they would be that every team will wear a 100th season jersey patch (every team wore a diamond-shaped 75th Season jersey patch in 1994, even on the throwback uniforms) but I think that's where the similarities between the two seasons will end. I do think special uniforms will be worn in 2019, but I don't think they will be throwbacks. The throwback trend seems to be dead for multiple reasons (played out / losing popularity, pretty much run out of interesting old uniforms to bring back, players must wear the same helmet throughout the season now so that eliminates a lot of options, etc.) so I'm guessing in 2019 to celebrate the 100th Season of the league they will do a throw forward year, with every single team having Color Rush (or some other gimmick) games or having Nike design "Pro Combat" style one-off uniforms designed to be worn with each team's normal helmet. If you don't count Super Bowl XXIX, when the league let the 49ers wear their 1994 throwbacks longer than teams were initially allowed and throwout the playoffs and Super Bowl, I believe Super Bowl LIV, played at the end of the 2019 season, could be the first year we see alternate jerseys or special one-off "Pro Combat" uniforms in the Super Bowl, if it doesn't happen this year for Super Bowl 50 (could be a nice game day or game time surprise for the 50th celebration.) In addition to "throw forward" and "Pro Combat" uniforms I'm sure the NFL will make an exception and let the two teams that played in the very first season of the NFL and are still around have a throwback year like they did for the original AFL teams in 2009 for the 50th Anniversary of the AFL. That means the Bears would throwback as the Decatur Staleys and the Cardinals would throwback as the Chicago Cardinals (that would be an interesting game: Chicago vs Chicago! With 1920 throwbacks!!!) So what do you guys think? What do you think is going to happen three years from now during the 100th Season of the NFL as far as team uniforms and logos are concerned?
  14. Colts - I would love to see them bring the blue pants back like they wore for a couple games in 1995 along with their white jersey. Seeing an all-blue look with the blue jersey, blue pants, and blue socks would be really cool. Was it ever explained why the blue pants were scrapped in the middle of the season? They were part of the 1995 uniform update and went along with the change from a white face mask to a blue one. According to gridiron-uniforms.com a special pair of white socks with blue stripes were worn with the blue pants. And to think the Colts were one dropped Hail Mary away from going to the Super Bowl that year… can you imagine if they broke out the blue pants for the big game?!?! Or even went monochrome?!?!?!??! Giants - Since the Bills, another New York team, already went all-red for Color Rush this leaves two choices for the Giants: all blue or all gray (to match their regular pants which don't match anything else in their uniform). An all-gray look for the Giants would remind me a lot of the gray sets that UConn has been wearing in both football and basketball since all of these uniforms would be mostly gray with red and blue elements. Cowboys - The Cowboys have many choices: all silver to match their helmets and road pants, all royal blue to match the numbers on their white jerseys and their socks, all navy to match the star on their helmets and their road jerseys, all white because they are most famous for always wearing a white jersey, and my personal favorite: all metallic baby aqua marine to match the color of the pants they wear with their white jersey. Can you imagine a cowboys jersey the same color of those pants??? That would be amazing! And then for Color Rush you'd wear it with the regular pants of the same color that they normally only wear with the white jersey, and socks the same color. Now *THAT* would be a memorable uniform! Raiders - All black would be absolutely badass but I wouldn't mind seeing all-silver considering how trendy gray is now. Patriots - All silver would be interesting for the Pats too but I hated their silver alternate jerseys, they looked more pewter than silver. And navy blue isn't shocking enough for color rush so that leaves all royal blue (a nice reference to the 90's uniforms without it being a throwback) but I know for sure it's going to be all red. Considering how popular the old Pat Patriot logo and old jerseys are I'm sure many Patriots fans would be absolutely drooling over a red alternate of their current jerseys. Jaguars - I'm really, really, really surprised they didn't go all-teal for their Color Rush game since that would have totally been garish enough for the way these games have been looking so far. Speaking of monochrome uniforms for years and years I had wanted to see a football team wear all read head to toe (helmet, jersey, pants, socks, shoes) and the chiefs recent blood clot uniforms satisfied my need very nicely. Thank you Chiefs! I have no problems with the Color Rush uniforms' socks being the same color as both the jersey and the pants, it adds to the monochrome effect and overall unique look of these "one off" uniforms, after all this is called "color rush" and the NFL is trying to add (or showcase) as much color to / in these uniforms as possible, especially how the lack of white on the jersey, pants, or socks adds to the "color rush" effect. Even though it could be argued the Color Rush uni's are a more modern look and are "throw forwards," to me, if you don't count the added metallic elements on the helmets, they kind of look like throwbacks to the monochrome uniforms worn in the 30's, 40's, and early 50's, especially how they lack white accents / pinstripes / outlines on the jersey sleeve stripes and numbers. I'm posting images from gridiron-uniforms.com as examples of this. Look at the monochrome uni's in these pics and tell me they don't look a lot like Color Rush uniforms!
  15. Out of all the Yard Goats logos this one is the worst because that Uncle Sam hat has NOTHING to do with Hartford and NOTHING to do with trains or goats! It should be a conductor's hat! The only reason I can think of why they chose an Uncle Sam style hat is to maybe attract Yankees fans but that makes zero sense because there is an equal amount of Red Sox fans in Connecticut. Also, the Yard Goats are a Colorado Rockies minor league team, not Yankees! Another thing: I am completely confused why the goat head primary logo is getting such praise as a cap logo. It is a good logo by itself, but it makes a TERRIBLE cap logo! It is NOT a simple logo as several people have said. It is WAY too detailed for a cap. I know, I know, this is a minor league team, and all minor league teams have super detailed cap logos, but what if every minor league team jumped off a bridge, does that mean the Yard Goats have to too? The things I like about the Yard Goats identity package are the wordmark (absolutely brilliant idea to style it after the New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad logo). It is simple yet has character at the same time. The 2000's were FULL of wordmarks with way too many outlines and gradients and detail so it is refreshing to see a wordmark that is just two colors and bold type. Playing off this wordmark is the YG alternate cap logo and I honestly wish this was the primary cap logo. I already asked the team to make a snapback version of this cap so hopefully they will. Why on Earth they would only sell fitteds is beyond me. I mean, the snapback craze has been going strong for several years now, get with the program guys!
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