FinsUp1214
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On a side note, I’d somehow forgotten just how baggy uniforms had become by the mid 2000’s. LeBron looked like he was wearing everything two sizes too big in that photo! I’ve lamented quite a bit about the state of NBA uniforms these days, but one thing that has improved significantly in this day and age is the fit of basketball uniforms. It’s much better now than it was 20 years ago, that’s for sure.
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Your worst days of your life as a sports fan v2
FinsUp1214 replied to TrueYankee26's topic in Sports In General
Adding to this: the top-seeded Jazz bowing out to the Clippers last year in a blaze of glory is right up there now with the Jordan shot and aftermath. Last year’s Jazz team was the first since Stockton/Malone that I legitimately (and excitedly) thought had a real chance to finally win it all. For that team to really be “same old Jazz” in contender’s clothing after all was a crushing gut punch that hurts all the more now that they have significantly regressed a year later. In all truth, that moment and the regression that followed has killed a lot of trust or hope I have in this team pulling it together anytime soon. They’re too good at teasing hope and not only failing to follow through, but absolutely faceplanting along the way. -
2022-23 International Club Soccer Kits
FinsUp1214 replied to officeglenn's topic in Sports Logo News
This new Barcelona kit just looks…off. They don’t really look like Barcelona to me, I think there’s too much navy altogether, especially when paired with the navy shorts and socks. Maybe if the blaugrana stripes filled the whole kit rather than just the front torso and back, they’d be better. -
I understand the player safety concern, but I would imagine there would be better ways to address it than not having anything on the court altogether but CGI. For starters, you could put them on the sidelines instead. Or, with as many alternate courts as the NBA allows and produces these days, I wonder if sections of teams’ hardwood that have the logos applied in the same way as the other court art would be possible in the time allowed. Maybe not, but who knows. Maybe even try to develop a sticker that doesn’t cause slip - it’s 2022 after all! But in any case, I’d rather the league get a bit more creative to keep players safe AND make the court look more special for all viewers than just deferring to CGI.
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I’ll never count Golden State out until the series is over, and it’s only one game, but for Boston to win like that despite Tatum scoring only 12? The Warriors have thier hands full. Boston really, really impressed me. Now that being said, as much as they impressed me, let’s be careful with the “inexperience doesn’t matter” points for now; inexperience can show itself in later stages of a series, so let’s see where this goes as the games go on. But yes, Boston does look very hungry and at the very least looks completely unafraid. They really landed some haymaker punches last night and I can certainly see a scenario where they withstand whatever the Warriors throw at them and win it.
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The Finals logos being CGI’d into the court has been so dissapointing. Sure it looks like “The Finals” on TV, but shouldn’t it look like “The Finals” to the people in attendance too? Shouldn’t it look like “The Finals” in the pictures of the games? There’s just something about a picture like this that gives off a sense of the scene being a huge deal with the Finals stickers so prominent: The NBA continues to make branding decisions like this that gives off the impression that they just don’t “get it” anymore. The Finals have been looking aesthetically like “just another game” lately. It’s really dissapointing.
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Meh, I’d much rather the Falcons have a full ‘98 Dirty Birds throwback, or an 80’s throwback if they have to wear a red helmet. The gold stripes on the ‘66 red helmet drive me crazy and it’s all I focus on when they have worn it.
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I’m getting confused about this supposed new shield. The mother site article says it’s on the team site and/or team shop site, but I’m not seeing it anywhere on either page. Am I just missing it in plain sight, or are we sure it’s actually a thing somewhere? The new “C” and the “CAVS” word mark are definitely still there, though.
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I’m getting some Laimbeer Cavs vibes from that: Also seems like the current wine and the LeBron 1.0 gold mashing up. I hope those are the only colors and no navy or black, because I think keeping it simple with those colors could look really good if used right.
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Looking back on the LeBron 1.0 set, I loved the white home uniform but felt the red and navy uniform had some problems. On the red uniform, the navy trim on the collar seemed really out of place and stuck out like a sore thumb (as opposed to the white uniform, where the navy numbers and side panel trim balanced the colors out right). And on the navy uniform - unpopular opinion alert - the barberpole stripes were too chunky and distracting for my tastes. I’d have much rather them kept the same template as the white and wine uniforms. I still prefer the whole set over anything else they’ve worn since, but it definitely wasn’t without its flaws. As an aside, I believe I’ve said this before, but the Cavs are one of the few teams in sports where I have no clue what thier ideal uniform or identity is, or should be. They’ve had so many identities and looks over the course of thier history (and even within my own lifetime) that nothing stands out to me as the “right” thing for them to do. They could switch to brown and orange tomorrow and I don’t think it’d even phase me. I mean, I do think they need to finally just pick something and stick with it for once, but I don’t think I even care what that is, as long as it looks good. That’s not a very good brand history to look back on when “just pick something, I don’t care” is the response it prompts.
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I’m not particularly excited about this matchup, but I guess it is kind of cool from a historical perspective that two of the original NBA teams are in the Finals for the 75th anniversary. One game with both teams in thier throwbacks would be pretty cool. I’m definitely finding myself rooting for the Celtics, if I’m having to make a choice. I appreciate the Warriors’ greatness, but I’m also frankly bored out of my skull by them in the same way I got bored with the Patriots or UConn Women’s basketball or other dynasties. I’m just that kind of fan that gets more excited over new blood and/or surprises over repetition in championship settings. It’s not lost on me either that wanting more parity and rooting for a team with 17 titles seems contradictory, but the Celtics haven’t won one in 14 years and that’s the closest thing to parity between the two choices left. Besides, I genuinely really like Tatum, Brown, and Udoka especially and would be happy to see them win a title.
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It is pretty cool, though I do have to say as a UVU alum that we beat them to it 14 years ago
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I think what bothers me most about the new Spurs secondaries - aside from the fact that they do indeed look ameteurish - is just how totally unnecessary they are. Do they really need these logos? The Spurs have pretty much gotten away with primary logo and standalone spur logo for years and have never needed anything else (there were those few years in the 90’s when they had the third alternative spur logo, but that wasn’t necessary either and was rightfully scrapped by the early 00’s). I just feel like these were made for the sake of having them. They have a few different alternative marks they’ve used for thier La Cultura lifestyle brand that have never been official marks, I feel like these (if they really had to have them, poorly done as they are) could’ve fallen into that category instead. Teams in the NBA especially really need to start simplifying things, it’s getting out hand when the Spurs of all teams start throwing junk at the wall like this.
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I don’t mind centered crests in general; In fact, when done right, I think it can look really good. That Czech one isn’t done right, though. The crest looks a bit too big, and the Puma logo being placed to the left of it forces (I imagine) the numbers to the right, which would cause not only horizontal clutter but likely elements of different sizes occupying the same plane. And even if the numbers are below the crest, that’s probably worse as it’d leave an awkward blank space to the right of the crest. All in all, if you’re going to center the crest, you have to either stack manufacturer-crest-numbers vertically down the middle or form a “V” like Senegal did with the elements you have. It doesn’t quite come out right any other way, in my opinion.
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1000% yes. Let’s bring back the jackets, too.
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The Avs are a very weird case for me this year: I think I got so used to them in the black helmets and shorts that blue looks terribly weird to me, even though I’ll fully admit the black was, in theory, the more mismatched color. I think I’d have rather them worn burgundy helmets and shorts instead, something darker like that may have looked closer to “right” in my head. I guess it comes down to this: they waited far too long to get rid of the black and should’ve made that change years ago (that, or redesigned the uniforms altogether this go-around). The black got to be too “normal” over the course of time and now my brain can’t calibrate when I see the blue helmets and shorts.
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Oh boy. We’re in for another Golden State title run aren’t we?
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There’s a good reason for that; they were originally headed towards being called Utah Polytechnic State University (UPSU) and would’ve used “Utah Tech” informally for short, but backlash to the UPSU name was so strong (the UPS memes were too easy) that Utah Tech became the formal name across the board instead. @ups_university is an Instagram meme account that started right after the original name was announced and, well, you can get an idea of why Utah Tech won out altogether: https://www.instagram.com/p/CQKQnMrLcmA/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet https://www.instagram.com/p/CQKMzGZLVpt/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet EDIT: Can’t get the IG posts to embed right for some reason, sorry for the extra clicks.
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I really like the arrangement of the logos and star on the front. I think if they had been on the same horizontal plane, it would’ve been too cluttered. Having them arranged like this looks very balanced. This is a really nice kit.
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I get what you’re saying, but the Jazz and Suns opting out of the 75th anniversary city themes and sticking with past city designs has led me to believe teams are in a bit more control than we’d think. Sure, they’re probably forced to fill all four uniform slots in general, but I don’t think there’s anything stopping a team like say, the Pelicans for example, from simply wearing red and gold versions of thier home jersey and calling them the “statement” and “city” respectively. At least, I would think nothing’s stopping them; nobody’s seemed to want to try that yet, probably because every team branching off with wackier alternates has created the want for teams to keep up with each other. Teams have the final say in what they wear, and what they choose to do with the uniform slots they have to fill is what can ultimately chase trends, not the action of having alternates at all. I really don’t think teams have to go as off-the-rails as they choose to. There’s plenty of ways to keep an alternate on-brand and close to the core of the team’s identity if a team wants to do so.
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I’m 99.9% certain the Jazz would theoretically still be going forward with thier rebrand despite the backlash, but I’m still a little curious to see what we get on the hat. It’d be hilarious if the navy/gold/green were on the cap instead, and even more so if something purple got snuck in. Both seem highly unlikely though, and I’m fully expecting the black/highlighter. I vaguely recall some Cavs rumors too. I don’t remember what they were, just that they were potentially changing things up.
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Here’s what I’ll say about the Heat: brand equity matters. I know the NBA in general has taken a fat dump on brand equity over the last few years, but it still matters and ought to be preserved as much as possible, especially in the NBA. The Heat have been a red/black team for 34 years, won three championships in it, and multiple hall of famers have worn it over the course of illustrious careers. “Classic”, “tradition”, “championships”, etc are not buzzwords, they are vital byproducts and elements of strong brand equity. The Heat have certainly built a great deal of it in red/black by now. To be honest? I actually thought Vice looked great. I had no problem with the design or colors in a vacuum. What I have a problem with is the idea that it should supplant 30+ years of brand equity for no good reason other than just to do it. There’s nothing so flawed or problematic about the current identity that warrants it being dropped for something so vastly different and course-changing as Vice. The perfect balance between the two identities had already been struck with Vice being a City Edition, and that’s the most it ever should be, in my opinion. Anything more is another loss for brand equity in the NBA, which needs to happen much less than it has been.
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For me, I understand that the Ducks have established a lot of recent equity with orange/black/gold, and understand they won a cup in it too, but it’s eggplant and jade all the way in my book. And furthermore, it’s duck mask or nothing at all. A large reason for that, admittedly is nostalgia - the Mighty Ducks were my favorite team as a kid, being of the generation they successfully targeted with Disney - but another big reason for it is that I just don’t think they’ve ever looked good in orange/black/gold. The very first rebrand set especially was an atrocity. The weird fat numbers and extreme-y logos/fonts always made them look like skating energy drinks (in the worst way), and it just never looked any good for them. Bringing the duck mask back again was awesome, and I’ll gladly take it in any color scheme, but if I had my choice, orange/black/gold would be gone yesterday. Honestly, I get that the original Mighty Ducks stuff was cartoony and overtly 90’s. Totally get it. But it was also kind of the whole point; it’s exactly those parts of the identity (and the connection to the movies and cartoon) that got me hooked on them as a kid. Nobody looked cooler than them to me back then! I was part of that target audience and I was one of the ones that was sold quick. The Mighty Ducks get dunked on here sometimes over thier Disney-fied identity, but it worked on me. It still works on me after all these years, and I think that ought to count for something.
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No more black note outside the arena, huh? A possible mea culpa?
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I’d pay high dollar for the Anaheim and Minnesota ones. Both are perfect. Really, excellent work all around! This is a great series.
