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  1. Spain pulls sky blue off really well, especially with the flag color trim. I need to see the full kit of course before a full judgement, but I’m really liking that one so far. Not sure I like that particular collar on the red kit, but otherwise it looks pretty straightforward and simple. The navy three stripes look nice atop red.
  2. The number font for the Grizzlies’ summer league uniforms is interesting. Are they tweaking something this year, or have they always used a different font for summer league?
  3. Nah, I’m honestly not panicking at all. As much as I’ve enjoyed this Jazz core of players, big changes needed to happen. They weren’t going any farther than they already had, and I really feel like they just weren’t built right as a team after all. It’s better for them to reset and get value back where they can, rather than to keep making futile runs with this core. It could possibly be a bumpy couple of years, but I’m honestly fine with it if they build into a team that’s better positioned to win in the future. I’ll also fully admit that it’s kind of nice as a fan to not have high expectations for them right now, it’s far less stressful to be a Jazz fan today than it was the past couple of seasons for sure.
  4. In all honesty, you bring up a really great point; they’ve got to make those picks count, whether by picking the right players or using them as trade assets for good returns. So we definitely won’t know the impact of these picks - good or bad - until they’re used, of course. But this deal at least puts the Jazz in a much, much better position asset-wise than they were yesterday morning, and that’s got me feeling optimistic over the possibilities. One quick thought I’ve been stewing over since yesterday: Jarred Vanderbilt is a better piece of this deal than I think he’s getting credit for. He’s not helping the Jazz with shooting by any means, but a long, versatile, switchable defender that can guard all five positions (and a very good one at that) is something the Jazz have desperately needed. Depending on what other moves the Jazz make to finish out the roster (there’s rumors of more deals incoming and potentially getting in on Ayton), Vanderbilt may end up being a really solid pickup in the greater scheme of things.
  5. First off, as much as I think a big move like this needed to happen for the Jazz, it’s still surreal that Rudy is not in Utah anymore. He’s one of the greatest players in team history, and a guy who seemed to truly love Utah and the fans. I’ve always been a fan of his, and I’m really glad we got to have nine years with him. I hope he enjoys so much success and many accolades in Minnesota. Looking forwards to seeing his number up in the Vivint Arena rafters in due time. As far as the deal itself goes, I’m floored the Jazz got five picks out of it (in addition to the pick from yesterday’s Brooklyn trade). Trader Danny is not messing around, and I’m here for it. I absolutely love the haul and am thrilled to have a wealth of assets now, as opposed to the bare cupboard they entered the off-season with. There’s very likely more moves to come as well, so here we go.
  6. You hit the nail right on the head. The intent was definitely good and I’m one of those Jazz fans that felt something needed to change, so I was completely on board with the general idea of a rebrand. Problem is, ownership’s idea of what said rebrand should be was a horrific idea. They not only swung hard and missed on a fastball down the middle, but they fell right in the dirt and flung the bat into the second row.
  7. So, Will Hardy is the new coach of the Jazz. I really like the hire. Sure, he’s 34, but his experience is actually pretty impressive for his age. He worked closely with Popovich in San Antonio, seemed to be a vital part of the Celtics’ success this past year, and I think the Jazz really needed a fresh perspective and voice that has experienced success like that. Plus, the more I thought about it over the last couple of weeks, the more I realized a younger coach was probably the right way to go. They needed someone who wasn’t a bridge guy (like Stotts may have been) that could see a potential rebuild through and grow with it if the Jazz mashed the eject button on Gobert and Mitchell anytime soon. Time will tell of course, but for now I’m excited by the hire. Of course I’m still tempering my expectations for the team as a whole, but I like what he can bring to the team regardless of the direction they take in the near future.
  8. I think that’s an upgrade, but the bear also looks like he just stepped on a Lego. Also, why is there two different “BROWN” word marks? The one in the Before/After and the one in the graphics below have different “W”s and different tracking. That’s weird.
  9. One of the Salt Lake Tribune’s beat writers spoke on a local show recently about how he was hearing the Jazz were trying to get permission to wear the purple throwbacks in as many games as possible, and wear the yellow jerseys specifically in as few games as possible. If (big IF) that’s true, the throwbacks may not be “THE primary” per se but it’s certainly going to be treated much more than an alternate. It would check out too with how much the Jazz are pushing purple over everything else.
  10. England definitely looks a bit more orange-ish than they should (especially against Netherlands of all teams)….but I have to say, I LOVE Netherlands’ De Stijl inspired kit. I’d definitely put more blame on England here.
  11. To be honest, even as much as the Nuggets have changed, I’m still envious of the fact that they’ve always worn some form of the same color (blue). Sure, the shades and tints have shifted, but at least Nuggets fans can hang thier hat on the fact that they’ve always been a “blue team” of some sort. That may seem like a stretch to consider a blue musical chairs a small brand victory, but as a Jazz fan I’d be thrilled if we could have a consistent thread like that. As much as I think the Jazz ought to be a purple team, they’ve wanted to be nearly everything else over too long a period of time, and there’s precious little to hang a hat on in terms of brand equity as a Jazz fan.
  12. Well, these are mascots we’re talking about. Half the mascots in sports are afield to some degree. Gorillas aren’t local to Phoenix, so far as I know. And whatever Gritty is supposed to be looks like he’d be much more local to Sesame Street than Philadelphia. I don’t know. I mean I get it, but I don’t think mascots are meant to be taken that seriously. That the legend of Yetis aren’t a Colorado thing doesn’t bother me all that bad; especially when you really can make a valid connection to the name, which is more than can be said for a few other mascots out there.
  13. I never minded the Yeti mascot or the Yeti foot. In fact, I really liked them. Even though Yetis are related more to the Himalayas and not the Rockies, I still get the connection they were going for. A snowy mountain creature didn’t ever seem that too far fetched for a team named the Avalanche to use.
  14. With the draft nearing, as well as a couple of head coach openings to fill and the Finals having wrapped up, I figured the NBA offseason thread may as well start. Utah had been the only coaching opening left today until Kenny Atkinson backed out of his agreement with the Hornets, re-opening that job: Meanwhile in Utah, a report from Emiliano Carchia (Sportando) indicated the Jazz had narrowed down thier finalists: …but local writers and radio here indicate the Jazz aren’t that far along yet and likely won’t narrow to final candidates until early this coming week, so we’ll see which ends up being true. FWIW, Tony Jones (Jazz beat writer) seemed to indicate Terry Stotts was still in the running for the Jazz job for now, which would contradict the Carchia report. Anyways, could be an interesting week leading up to the draft for coaching hires. Utah seems to be content taking its time and may not hire before the draft, whereas Charlotte now has to turn to a plan B with days to go.
  15. I wonder how much of this is coming down to different interpretations of the reveal’s language. Specifically, there’s the part that revealed next season’s city and classic uniforms, followed by the year ticker going from 2024 upwards, indicating purple would be worn in some form indefinitely. I personally took that to mean the city and/or classic uniform would be purple every year, but others seem to be interpreting that to mean purple will be primary after 2024. Honestly, I’m not sure which one is right at this point, especially with some indications (even from the Salt Lake Tribune) that the Jazz truly are in damage control mode over this. 2024 looks like it’ll be an interesting, telling year.
  16. Yes, silver was a trim color on the double-blues, mostly used as outlines for the word marks and numbers on the road and alternate:
  17. Norwich’s new crest is excellent. It’s very clean and fixes all of the little problems the old had. Really, really well done.
  18. The wordmark and numbers literally look like a manufacturing mistake. They’re massive! You could see those things from space! Man alive!
  19. I’m curious about that too, because the throwbacks have just the swoosh and not the NIKE+swoosh like this years’ classic editions are supposed to have. Definitely seems on the surface like old stock rather than a “new” classic edition. On that subject, I’m not clear if these are categorized as city edition or classic edition this year. The official release seems to kind of dodge that.
  20. I won’t speak for every Jazz fan, but I will say that 1) I grew up with these uniforms, so I’m extremely nostalgic for them and know many other Jazz fans my age who are too, 2) when they wore it a couple of years ago, I saw just as much mountain gear worn around Utah as redrock gear (which was a lot), and 3) it’s thier “glory years” uniform, so there’s a lot of fond memories with it. Granted, there are a few fans out there who don’t like it, but from what I observe, it’s a pretty popular uniform. Especially with my age group (late 20’s/early 30’s).
  21. https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz-relaunch-brand-with-new-uniforms-courts-and-merchandise From the official release: “The white and black uniforms symbolize the white and black keys on a piano, a significant element in the history of Jazz music.” Well, okay. But then this nugget: “The yellow jersey represents the spotlight designated to the greatest performers in history, a nod to the fact that Utah embraces being in the spotlight with all eyes watching.” That’s officially the dumbest justification for a color I’ve ever heard.
  22. I think that’s what I’m getting the biggest kick out of. They’ve got to be aware of how obvious thier mea culpa was, right? In a way it almost feels like a really weird victory in that better branding, while still not being the primary, prevailed anyways by being pushed more than the rebrand itself. It’s no doubt embarrassing, and the black/yellow isn’t going away, but from a purple fan’s standpoint I’m kind of enjoying that and feel like purple had the last laugh here.
  23. I honestly did not expect the purple throwbacks as-is, thought it’d just be a re-tooled version for the city edition. That’s really cool! The new classic court is lacking in comparison to the original, but I can live with it. Also very intrigued that they went ahead and released next year’s city edition AND classic edition (old Pistol Pete purples), as well as committing to a purple alternate of some kind indefinitely. I didn’t expect all of that either. These two color schemes are really going to co-exist as long as Ryan Smith can help it, so….I guess he wasn’t wrong when he said purple was here to stay? That being said, the core brand is…not great. The uniforms just seem so generic (the shorts didn’t end up saving the jerseys, nor did the faint blue-grey stripes on the sides) and the color scheme just doesn’t look right for the Jazz. It looks great on the Columbus Crew and Borussia Dortmund, but it just doesn’t look right on us. I’ve blasted these so much in the last couple of months that I really don’t have much else to say than what I’ve already said. Anyways, looking forwards to the purple games and merch every year! Aaaand, well, that’s about it. I guess a silver lining here is they did get me excited over 25% of the brand, which is better than none of it.
  24. Yeah, this is 100% what I’m expecting. Should I be concerned that I’ve drawn two Gob Bluth/Ryan Smith parallels in one day?
  25. The problem with that is, they may as well have been a purple primary team and not even entertained black/yellow at that point. It looks really bad on them to do a full-on rebrand, then basically dump it wherever and whenever they can out of the gate. I imagine the team is going to have to strike a more delicate balance than that to at least make thier efforts worth it. Dont get me wrong, I’d gladly take purple full-time over the black/yellow (and I am pleased to see more purple now), but this is a pretty bad hole they’ve dug themselves into with this rebrand. Pushing purple as a possible damage control failsafe looks like a pretty big mea culpa to me. If that’s true, then they’re going to have to ride this out until they can rebrand again. Even more hilarious now when I remember how emphatic Smith was about fixing the Jazz brand confusion, and now he may have just cratered it. Basically, Ryan Smith just Gob’ed this up.
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