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  1. BeerGuyJordan
    So basically just add Colorado to the Pacific, then? The Stars and Rampage already play more games than the other 6 in the division. I hate having to pull up the calculator on my phone, just to figure out the standings in my team's division.
  2. BeerGuyJordan
    I'm curious about how Colorado will affect alignment. The way I see it there are 2 options. 1. Put them in the Pacific. Push the Stars and Rampage to Central and then Cleveland to the east. 2. Pop them in Central and call it a day.
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    I can't really speak to the T-Wolves, but the Wild would be the one exception. Their version was probably just a ton of North Stars stuff in the stands, for the first couple of seasons. They already had a built in hometown fanbase.
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    Houston is probably the only reason the NHL would finally allow the Coyotes to relocate, since it's a bigger market. It makes sense, even by "grow the game" standards.
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    You see this a lot with newer franchises, and Vegas is sure to experience it. People who support the home team except when their original team comes to town. With the large number of Detroit transplants Nashville had, there were enough of them that the "Predwing" coun was termed. You'd see them rocking Nashville swag, and would never have doubted they were Preds fans. Until Detroit came to town, that is. Most of their kids are full Preds fans, it takes a generation to build a true fanbase.
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    I will never root for a city to lose their team, but the Hurricanes continued existence makes less sense than the Coyotes. Its not even a major market.
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    #3. This is dumb, IMO. I hate the Blackhawks, but it their last Reebok set was gorgeous. I think only the Habs were better. I can hope the Preds can look that good someday.
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    Hardly a surprise, but Colorado will officially be the AHL's 31st franchise, beginning next season.
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    Sidney Crosby has never won a game at Unuted Center. Pulled this off Reddit, today: "The last time Pittsburgh beat Chicago on the road was in 2009, in a game Crosby didn't play in. That was a 5-4 OT victory where Cam Barker had 3 points and Antti Niemi played a period for the Blackhawks. The last time Pittsburgh won in Chicago before that was in 2003, when Mario Lemieux had an assist on the only goal of the game. So if it seems like the Blackhawks usually have the Penguins' number at home, they do. The Hawks have also won the last 7 games against the Pens and are 11-2-2 in the series since the lockout."
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    D@&# it, Foley. You garnered yourself some goodwill, with those jerseys. Don't use it all before the first puck drops!
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    I've said it before, but the NHL will do everything they can to keep that media market. The loss of the fanbase would be no big deal, but losing the 12th largest metro area, to move them out to Quebec, isn't something they will stomach. It actually doesn't matter that more people in Quebec would likely watch games, they get to sell the whole market, as potential. Phoenix MSA also has double digit growth percentage 3, over the last decade. There are only two markets the NHL would be willing to move the Coyotes to, as I see it: Houston or Seattle. I'm not defending it, just explaining, for the home audience. If Quebec wants to get a team, relocating the Hurricanes is the only viable option I see. The NHL has made it clear it only sees Canadian growth as a bailout option.
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    This is still a pretty sweet deal, for the Flames. They pay 1/3 of the arena costs, and that's it. Sure, they get to deal with complaints when they add the ticket charges for the "user" 33%, but that's only fair (no way they pull it out of their profit margin, on ticket costs). Especially since, once that $185 million has been met, they'll almost certainly keep costs the same, increasing their future profit margin. The city is getting stuck with all of the infrastructure costs, which will likely come out to between $250-300 million, once it's all said and done. That's on top of their third of the arena. Seriously, it isn't like the Flames are an organization that struggles, financially. CSEC is acting like greedy, spoiled children. them.
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    Was that meant for me? If so, it's because I love that the Mayor, and city, for that matter, aren't taking this lying down. Team owners have been getting away with holding teams hostage, to get free stadiums and arenas for far too long. I'd prefer owners to finance their own damn venues, but I can stomach mutually beneficial arrangements. When an ownership group storms away from negotiations, like a petulant child, it's nice to see them called out, for it.
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    Me, Re: Calgary/CSEC drama
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    Objectively, I'd say we're past time. I'm going to keep hoping they figure it out, though. Three reasons. 1. I'm dating a die-hard Coyotes fan. She's probably it for me, too. I can't root for something that'd break her heart, as a sports fan. 2. The Coyotes are a pretty inexpensive way to see the Preds at least once a season. 3. I'm a Roadrunners STH. There's no way Tucson has AHL hockey without the Coyotes.
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    Let's not forget thet Arizona is tarping their UD corners, this season.
  17. BeerGuyJordan
    I like how people neglect the fact that 2/3 of the greater NYC metro teams were in the bottom four of the league, in the most gate-driven of the big 4 leagues. If people want to have a discussion about potentially overstaurating SoCal, but ignore the Islanders and Devils, they're just banging that old anti-sunbelt gong, as far as I'm concerned. I completely agree. Quebec should have a team. Unfortunaltely, the reality is that the league is going to continue to use conference balance as a justification to keep them out. I think Carolina is still their best hope.
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    I was never saying they get terms for that short of a stay. I was saying that attendance would hold out for about that long, at the very least. If it did tank, which I'm not convinced it would, they could reasses then. This is only under the assumption that they can't find another city to build or expand a park. I don't really think staying in Tampa is a good bet.
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    I mean, sure, Omaha would be an unorthodox move. Tampa's set such a low bar, though, that it's hard to imagine them not being a step up. Even if it's only a 5 to 10 year stop gap until a larger metro area goes looking for a team.
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    Sure thing, you just have to prove intent to use it, with documentation and proof that it was underway. Piece of cake, right?
  21. BeerGuyJordan
    Any takers on how long before someone gets a suspension or ban stemming from the use of the "HaHa" reaction? Seriously, though, some people take big game losses way too hard for it to not wind up being part of something like that. I get that we're all adults, here, and should be responsible for policing ourselves. That being said, we have a whole list of proof that some people can't be trusted to behave. It might be better to disable that one, provided there's an option for it. Just my $0.02.
  22. BeerGuyJordan
    Being in a team's TV market and being a significant secondary market aren't the same thing. Sure, you see more Mariners fans in Portland than any other team, but it's not a strong or very deep fanbase. I believe that most of this is due to the lack of on-field success the Mariners have had. Portland falls more in line with Charlotte, or Nashville, in that they aren't a stronghold for any teams. Not in the way Providence, or Columbus are.
  23. BeerGuyJordan
    And why are Columbus and Providence never getting a team? Lack of demand. Primarily due to proximity to another team, and strength as a secondary market. Memphis has the long-standing St. Louis AAA affiliation, and isn't any closer to any other teams. Memphis is Cardinals territory. Big difference from Nashville, who is roughly 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours from St. Louis, Atlanta, and Cincinnati. They're also the A's affiliate, and Milwaukee's before that. Nashville is a no man's land. I'm not arguing that Nashville should get a team. I'm just saying that the reasons they're not getting one are different than some of the other cities mentioned. I went to Sidewinders and Spring Training games at the old TEP. It's a great ballpark for Spring Training, the proximity to Phoenix is what killed that. I don't think anyone, MiLB or Tucson, wants triple-A ball back. June is hot enough to keep away fans, and the monsoons dominate July and August. The only way they'd have a real chance would be getting a covered (retractable, ideally) stadium, and I don't think anyone is spending that kind of money.
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    While not wholly off base, that's a gross oversimplification. There's little to no question which team(s) the majority of the baseball fans follow in places like Providence (BoSox), Columbus (Indians and Reds), or Memphis (Cardinals). All of those are cities that are large enough to make a push, if they had a stadium. The fact is that they won't. Why not? It's not like they're close enough to have to pay indemnification fees. Answer: they're a significant secondary market to another team, and there are better places to expand. Some cities aren't a significant secondary market for any team. Nashville, Las Vegas, Portland, and Charlotte are examples of that. It absolutely should be one of many factors considered.
  25. BeerGuyJordan
    I never said that anyone was entitled to the secondary markets mentioned, or that it couldn't work, I just said that there's no one pushing for MLB Nashville, and those are your two largest reasons. Nashville is currently pretty content with the Sounds, and is focused on trying to get in on the aggresive MLS expansion. The league isn't currently looking to expand. If they have one franchise relocating, a market that isn't clamoring for a team, that would also eat into three other franchises' secondary markets is pretty far down the list.
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