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Everything posted by kroywen

  1. Problem is, players are temporary, especially in today's NBA. Sure, you might have Russell Westbrook wearing your logo today, but next season he could easily be wearing some other team's jersey, and some other company's logo. As long as your ad contract runs longer than the life of that team's star players' contracts (and it virtually always will in the NBA), you can't really value an ad deal based on what players are on that team. The one exception is having LeBron on a small market team like Cleveland, but even with that, if I were an advertiser, I'd have thrown a boatload of money at the Cavs for a short-term deal. But a long-term deal (which the Cavs would undoubtedly look for)? LeBron is the perfect example of how it could go sour - If an advertiser paid top dollar for a long-term Cavs advertising deal back when LeBron was on the team, they'd be stuck massively overpaying a small-market, no-star team right now. Considering that local company Goodyear bought ad space on the Cavs' uniform, I'd guess that most companies decided to stay away knowing that LeBron would be a free agent after the first season.
  2. They missed a great opportunity to call back to the R/G/B logo here - should've made the gradient R/G/B as an intentional callback to that logo (and to its inspiration, digital pixel displays). But I'm sure they want to implement a green/blue color scheme, which that logo would undermine. While gradients are generally a bit dated, this logo does a good job of looking contemporary, since it's a very flat, bold logo, and the gradient really only exists in the very center of the logo (rather than the whole thing being a gradient). It's a lot more modern looking than the dated chrome mess they had previously, though I think a single-color flat version of the old logo @Zeus89725 posted would've been a great evolution.
  3. I think we've done a fairly good job in the past of keeping campaign logo discussions on the topic of design itself, rather than on politics. There's obviously random exceptions to that where someone throws in a gratuitous political comment, but I think as long as that's fairly discouraged, we can discuss campaign logos like adults. I certainly hope we're able to still discuss that, because we're about to get a slew of them over the next 6-7 months.
  4. This is utterly perfect. I'm in love with that font. And love the evolution of the logo into a cleaner, better designed version of what's a very recognizable logo. Do think that they should simply invert the red stripes to white when placing the logo on a red background. That would better maintain the flag motif and look more attractive. But I get why they do it the way they do - having a consistent logo design regardless of background is important from a branding perspective. A sports team can easily invert colors based on background, but it's rare to see a company do it.
  5. Downgrade. I actually liked the old Regal logo. The new typeface seems awfully dated to me, and the logo itself is an awfully oblique reference to a crown - kind of a wasted opportunity given their name.
  6. In fairness, the Red Sox have been in the World Series far more recently than the Yankees, and have won three World Series to the Yankees' one so far this century. The "Yankees win all the time" trope hasn't really been accurate since the mid-2000s, which (hate to say) is a long, long time ago now.
  7. That's the absolute ideal Cubs road uniform. Perfect color balance, an attractive font, and historical relevance.
  8. 1. Yankees . . . . . . . . 2. Dodgers 3. Red Sox 4. Athletics 5. Cubs 6. Astros 7. Indians 8. Braves 9. Rockies 10. Brewers If the Brewers went back to their rightful royal blue and athletic gold, they'd at least shoot up to #7 on this list. Pretty solid crop of uniforms there. The Rockies' Times New Roman font bothers me a ton, and the Brewers are painfully dated at this point. Outside of that, all strong sets.
  9. From a branding perspective, you're absolutely right, but I have to admit, the pedant in me is annoyed by the fact that these logos are part of the postseason package, but are for what's technically a regular season game.
  10. With all these changes in AAA affiliations, I tried to create a 'platonic ideal' of AAA affiliates, with the intent of minimizing distance from each ML team to their AAA affiliate. Think I did pretty well with it. AAA Team ML Affiliation Albuqueque Arizona Buffalo Toronto Charlotte Miami Columbus Cleveland Durham Washington El Paso San Diego Fresno Los Angeles (2) Gwinnett Atlanta Indianapolis Chicago (2) Iowa Minnesota Las Vegas Los Angeles (1) Lehigh Valley Philadelphia Louisville Cincinnati Memphis St. Louis Nashville Chicago (1) New Orleans Tampa Bay Norfolk Baltimore Oklahoma City Kansas City Omaha Milwaukee Pawtucket Boston Reno Oakland Rochester Pittsburgh Round Rock Texas Sacramento San Francisco Salt Lake City Colorado San Antonio Houston Scranton New York (1) Syracuse New York (2) Tacoma Seattle Toledo Detroit The Florida teams, by necessity, get a bit screwed, since there's no AAA teams anywhere close to them. The San Diego/El Paso combo is by far the worst, but some southwestern ML team was inevitably going to draw the short end of the stick. Other than that, almost every affiliate would be a few hours drive or a couple hours flight away, tops. No Fresno-to-DC affiliations, at least. ?
  11. Good lord, these MNF graphics on ESPN are hideous. Way too bright, reads very blurry from a distance, and commands way too much attention. Whoever designed this didn't get the "flat graphics" memo from like, 8 years ago, did they?
  12. Yeah, Real never makes sense for an American club. There's no royalty in America. It wouldn't make any more sense in Miami than it does in Salt Lake. "International" actually fits Miami to a tee. Having the name in Spanish does too. It's the unofficial capital of Latin America and has a huge Hispanic population. This name actually fits Miami like a glove, unlike most MLS names.
  13. I don't think that "Pigeons" or "Reds" are meant to fill the same functionality as "Sounders" or "Timbers." The latter are the official names of those clubs; the former are just nicknames that have been adopted informally over the years. It's like the difference between "Yankees" and "Bombers," "Canadiens" and "Habs." No, the average person in NYC will have no clue what you're talking about if you ask about the "Pigeons," but they'd probably also do a double-take if you ask them about the "Bombers" without first referring to the Yankees (and might promptly have you arrested in our post-9/11 world ?). But most New Yorkers with even a passing knowledge of MLS would know what you're talking about if you said "N-Y-C-F-C," just like anyone in NYC knows exactly who the "Yankees" are.
  14. The Panthers should move to the blue jerseys full time, and make black a trim color only:
  15. I'd hope - and guess - that they won't change the branding much. They have to know that part of Moxie's niche appeal is its historic branding.
  16. Feels like they're trying to mimic the Whitney's incredible branding, and failing miserably at it:
  17. Watching that video makes me extraordinarily happy that I wasn't alive in 1985. Can't say I realized that Kiss had already ditched the makeup by that point though.
  18. That might be the most overrated color scheme on this board. It's possible (though not easy) to make a two-tone green look good, if one is strictly a tertiary trim color. But the Irish rainbow? It's rightfully consigned to the same 1980s dustbin as gigantic hair, Reaganism, and KISS.
  19. The Orioles' Players Weekend jerseys are nothing short of blinding. I thought it was bad last night, but seeing these in the daylight is even worse. I think I might go blind watching this game. I also don't like how the black wordmark against the orange background - the black wordmark becomes blurry at any sort of a distance. Needs a white outline to set it off.
  20. It's New York... more like a white collar fanbase that pretends to be working class by swilling beer and tailgating 8 times every fall. I totally agree with emphasizing New York more than the Jets. There's a reason why all the other "New York" named teams do it, as @SFGiants58 detailed above. Anything else is too gimmicky for a New York fanbase.
  21. I'm a Yankees, Jets, and Rangers fan. MLB (AL East): Rays. They're annoying little gnats that have this pernicious tendency to beat the Yanks at the Trop even when they're not good, but they're ultimately not a very hate-able team. Very little success in their history, and a mausoleum of a ballpark. And I do like that they knocked off the Sox in both 2008 and 2011. (I've never been happier for the Yankees to lose a game as I was during Game 162 in 2011.) NFL (AFC East): I guess the Dolphins. They're just kind of there. They also don't have the Bills' annoying "we're New York's only team!!!" crap going on (the Jets play 6 miles from Times Square, FFS). The AFC East is so lopsided toward the Pats that I think the other three teams kind of take the attitude that "the enemy of my enemy is... mildly tolerable." I don't like the Bills or the Dolphins one bit, but nothing matches the writhing hatred that I (and everyone else) have for the Pats. NHL (Metropolitan): Blue Jackets. I hate all of the leftovers from the old Atlantic Division (that was a division where every single team hated each other - it was incredible), and I hate the Hurricanes for having been stolen from my native Connecticut. so that leaves the Blue Jackets, who I frankly couldn't care less about one way or another.
  22. I hate that the entire logo is slanted, and all the white space is going to look terrible in patch form. Also probably the sparsest All-Star Game logo in decades. Not in a good way, either. That reveal video was strange too. They showed all these elements of the city skyline, guitar strings, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Jacobs Field... and then used exactly none of them in the logo. I was thinking while watching that video "how many elements can they possibly cram into this logo?" and was surprised when the answer was... none. The video teased something dramatically different than the end product. The baseball seams forming a guitar is rather inspired, but I really liked what they had going with the guitar string motif, and it wasn't leveraged at all.
  23. A shame too, because that might be the best stadium in the entire NFL, non-Lambeau division. Amazing sightlines, attractive design, fans on top of the action, and louder than a 747 at full blast. I wish all stadiums were designed with similar principles to Century Link.
  24. That would work. As I said, the plane itself would work as a standalone logo. Honestly, I think it'd look better at midfield than the roundel (small text may not translate well at midfield - there's a reason why roundels are rarely done there either).
  25. It's mostly the fact that basketball is so superstar-driven, but exacerbated by NBA salary cap rules. The way salary cap rules are designed, teams vying for a prominent free agent are generally going to offer similar contracts to one another (all well below open market value, FWIW), so the free agent will decide not based on how gives them the most money, but on other factors. The biggest is usually "can I win a championship here?" It's how you saw the top three free agents flocking to Miami in a single offseason with the express purpose of creating a superteam, or why KD chose the Warriors over other teams. It's ironic that a policy that's in part designed to promote parity actually decreases it, since teams are largely competing for top free agents based on their ability to deliver a championship (rather than on the best salary). Of course, the biggest purpose of the salary cap is to contain payroll costs, which it is insanely effective at doing (part of why the NBA is so financially healthy).