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  1. Interesting because the Angels have been referred to as los Angelinos by the media and public here in SoFla. Los Angelinos de Los Angeles is equally as awkward.
  2. I’m fairly certain the Marlins are wearing a slightly darker and bluer teal.
  3. Two or three mid-week series a year in Orlando, Jacksonville, SW Florida and Tampa wouldn’t be a bad idea to build support for the team around the state.
  4. I prefer all my history, even the inconsequential parts like SPORTS, to reflect what actually happened.
  5. I prefer to document history as it happened over changing the narrative to fit what makes people the most comfortable.
  6. I last went to Tropicana Field in 2010ish. It looks like the bastard child of a stadium, warehouse, and an early 90s cut-rate office building if it were possible for them to procreate. The main rotunda meant to evoke Ebbets Field looks more like something you see in a dying mall. Different areas of the concourse had their own “character” which ranged from sterile concrete to drop ceilings to Joe DiMaggio in comic book form. The trimmings on the scoreboard reminded me of a cheap baseball-theme carnival funhouse. The lights inside are low so you have a constant glare. The turf looked poorly maintained and had a weird shine. I think they still had the orange leaf gradient on the walls/catwalks which evoked Rainforest Cafe. The banners in the rafters and the museum were cool though. We set in right field a few rows in front of former Marlins GM Larry Beinfest and his kids. The Marlins infield dropped an infield pop-up and when we turned around he did that thing where he knew you were looking at him but didn’t want to make eye contact.
  7. I don’t see expansion happening if both Portland and Montreal gain via expansion. Going into smaller markets wouldn’t be feasible unless there is a monumental shift in MLB economics to bolster them. Moving into Mexico, Puerto Rico, and even Cuba might be on MLB’s 2040 expansion plans due to the current problems in each region.
  8. Anyone ever seen this? Opening Night at the Florida Suncoast Dome in 1990.
  9. 2003 was my first real experience as a fan. I remember 1997 but I was too young to understand. I can still remember most of the memorable games in 2003. It’s burned into me and I relive it everytime I go to the ballpark or they play against a specific opponent. They are some of the fondest memories I have as a teenager and it’s why I still hope that the Marlins can be relevant again.
  10. 3 years after winning the championship they were also visiting Las Vegas, Portland, San Antonio, and Oklahoma City for new ballparks. @SFGiants58 summed it up pretty well. He forgot David Samson bragging at a banquet how he got taxpayers to fund the majority of the stadium AND later in an inebriated state yelling “$1.2 BILLION!” when he was booed by fans at another event after the sale.
  11. I won’t comment on where the Rays are in the pecking order since I haven’t been in Tampa long enough to get a feel for it, but the link above shows the Rays being the favorite baseball team. I think MLB failed the Rays but not doing more to push the Yankees out of the Tampa area (to Orlando?) to allow the Rays to establish themselves.
  12. The Marlins are more popular than the Yankees in Miami. Despite 16 years of horrible mismanagement the Marlins fans would still outdraw Yankees fans like they did in the 2003 World Series. The gap was narrowed in that time, but nothing unites Miamians more than rooting against a team from New York. This is similar with the Heat and Dolphins. Even the Cuban exiles that can remember watching the Yankees in the 40s and 50s in black and white put the Marlins before the Yankees. The rules that govern the rest of Florida do not apply in Miami. Anyone who has spent a decent enough time here fully understands. This map from 2014 shows this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/24/upshot/facebook-baseball-map.html#7,26.015,-81.360 You can continue to repeat your line about Northeasterners in Florida, but it ignores facts: 1) 53% of Miami-Dade was not even born in this country and 2) That Miami is a full generation removed from spring training baseball.
  13. Except Miami is not full of transplants from the Northeast.
  14. The country has changed dramatically since MLB had 24 teams. By not expanding they would be leaving hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue on the table every year by not entering new markets. Miami, Denver, Tampa-St. Pete, and Phoenix are larger markets than a third of the league. Florida is the third most populous state in the country. They would also risk losing interest in those markets for the sport with other leagues setting up shop. The comment on the Dbacks losing money was accurate 15 years ago, but that’s because ownership poured millions into establishing a winner fast. Their threat to leave Arizona because Chase Field is falling apart is just a ploy to get taxpayer funding to renovate it. The same game that’s been played in nearly every other city, including the oldest markets. There aren’t any other cities throwing money at the Rays and Dbacks (yet) so they likelihood either move is slim to none for the foreseeable future. Besides, no person in their right mind would want to leave Arizona for a smaller market in a sport where your local TV contract plays a significant part in deciding success. What MLB should have done with Florida expansion is award teams only after new ballparks were approved. The owners in 1991 chose Miami over other markets because an MLB-ready stadium was already in place and they needed the revenue to payback the MLBPA quickly. But in the long run the stadium limbo directly led to the 1997 and 2005 fire sales which really poisoned the well with fans. Once Huizenga was done with MLB after the 94 strike’s inability to put a salary cap in place, his goal was to win a World Series and lock-up a new ballpark he could then sell the team for at a nice profit. When he couldn’t, he stripped the team and sold it. MLB should have played the long game with Miami and held off expansion until a new ballpark was in place. Same with Tampa Bay. The Trop was obsolete the day it opened and a relic by 1995 when the Rays were awarded. It should be no surprise their expansion brethen have been more successful with new downtown parks from the start. The new ballpark or bust strategy is certain to play out during the next round of expansion.
  15. I like MLB’s version of interpreting franchise history. I like knowing the Orioles can be traced back to Milwaukee. I like the Braves tracing back their existence to 1871. I’d like to see the NL teams celebrate their pre-1901 pennants. It’s something to say your team won the 1879 NL pennant and have that displayed at your ballpark. It shows the tradition and heritage of the sport.
  16. I don't miss any of the "personality" that was stripped from the ballpark. The building reflects Miami more than it ever has. The yellows, reds, and greens represented Loria's favorite artist more than Miami. As a venue, the renovations improved the experience. Fans are closer to the playing field. Flow around the concourses is easier. Concessions feature local favorites.
  17. That perception will not change until they start winning. I remember when the Astros were in the midst of rebuilding and their ownership was being criticized for not spending their record profit on improving their roster. People who don’t understand the process and those who like to get a jab in will do so. Jeter and co have not been perfect but it’s still too early to judge the rebuild.
  18. Definitely, and I am all for what they’re doing. Still waiting for them to change our surrender flag white banners!
  19. Jeets and Co. are getting a crash-course in winning is the only thing that will bring fans in and perhaps trading the last two NL MVPs was the straw that broke the camels back for fans. (Or attendance last two nights is a side effect of everyone avoiding downtown Miami due to Ultra.)
  20. I was tag-teaming with you but it appears the joke went over your head.
  21. MLBN uses blue for the baseline so they weren't clear enough.
  22. Next upgrade Marlins Park needs is LED sports lighting. It would help the TV experience dramatically.
  23. They always had a problem growing turf in that stadium. Aside from the retro look, it was probably done for maintenance purposes.
  24. Here is baseball at the Orange Bowl: Satchel Paige pitching for the Marlins: https://twitter.com/otbaseballphoto/status/946493382599364610?s=21 1990 Serie del Caribe:
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