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  1. 26 minutes ago, BBTV said:

    I think it’s pretty obvious that Kapernaek was blackballed, but the fact he wasn’t a star does at least give some people an argument that he wasn’t good enough to get signed and his declining ability mattered more than his protesting. I’m just trying to figure out if this guy is good enough that if he’s cut, he’s definitely get signed again and there’s not that doubt “yeah he’s gay, but the real reason is he’s not good.”  

    I think if he does get cut, there will be plenty of apologists for the league and team that cuts him, and for the fact that no other team picks him up (if that becomes the case). He may even be accused of using this as a preventative measure because he thought he might get cut and this could put pressure on a team to keep him.


    So your question is a good one. And while I don’t know much about this player, I do think that in the NFL, there are very few players who could get blackballed without plausible deniability. Players are considered old at about his age and he’s already probably had a longer career than most. So if he ends up no longer playing, that and the fact that he’s only a contributor (as opposed to a starter) is probably enough in the eyes of a lot of fans.  Most NFL players are fairly replaceable.

     

  2. Ten or even 20 years ago, conventional wisdom was that the first openly gay North American men's team sport athlete was likely to be a star because nobody's cutting someone good enough to play in an all-star game. 

     

    Instead, progress ended up being more gradual with retired and semi-retired players (Jason Collins) and now that so much has happened over the years in terms of acceptance (in general society, that is), it almost makes sense that it's a non-star...there's normalization that kind of opens the door to anyone. That said, this is still very rare in North American means team sports and it shows that no matter how much someone wants to suggest it's no big deal, it is. The "big 4" talk a good game about acceptance, but that probably cannot make up for 1) the locker room and 2) the (social) media.

     

    At this point, it certainly looks like he belongs on a roster given that he's appeared in at least 14 games a year for the past five years.  I expect to see him on the field as a Raider; I kinda think we're at the point at which a team is not going to cut a guy for this...and I'm usually more cynical than that...

  3. 12 hours ago, Eastport76 said:

    Am I only one thinks Flames should adopt maroon to their scheme? Maroon is a unique colour and it’s rarely used in pro sports. Not only that, it helps tone down their bright red and yellow scheme.  I love their 80s uniforms but they’re bit too bright.  Since Calgary is nicknamed “Cowtown” and home of Calgary Stampede,  why don’t make the Flames bit more western? I’ll love to see they add a western number font. 

    I am saying this only a few posts from where I state that I prefer only one vivid color...but my gosh do the flames look good as is.  I was heartbroken when they added black and I'd put them in a small mix for best looking team in the league.

    That said, I think maroon might work out alright. Not sure whether you mean using maroon as an additional color or in place of red, but I've seen concepts with maroon in addition to red that have looked pretty good. Iowa State has a bit of this going on with their darker trim and it looks decent.

  4. To me, the Cubs uniform is the most aesthetically pleasing of this series so far.  That said, it's still so pointless.* It's not what the team is supposed to look like.  A dark blue t-shirt with white over light blue "Wrigleyville" would probably sell really well and be an OK fan product.  It's stupid on the field, particularly Wrigley Field, where only the pinstripes should be worn.

     

    *aside from selling merchandise of course

  5. Not really a "logo" but the most famous design example I can think of is that a lot of people think the Monopoly Man has a monocle when he in-fact never has.

     

    I agree with whoever said that the Fruit of the Loom is the best example thus far.  

     

    I'm having trouble coming up with a sports example.  I think the Blasty example belongs more in the the "Misperceptions of Logos" thread, where someone might say that they thought the Blues' logo was a bird's wing rather than a music note or that they saw the Nordiques logo as an Elephant.  It's difficult to come up with a good sports example because we'll all be looking at intricacies that the general public doesn't notice, like "I was thinking the the 1980s Royals powder blue wordmark was outlined in royal blue but it turns out it wasn't." That's just off of most peoples' radar to the point that it could not really apply.

     

    I would bet a lot of "regular" fans don't realize that the Yankees don't wear names on the back of the uniforms, but I don't quite think that's an example of the Mandela effect.  I am sure a lot of people think the "Sabres" are the "Sabers" but again, that's not a great example. A good example would be more like if we all started talking about the Buffaslug and for some reason a bunch of us thought that there was a sword "underlining" it.

     

     

  6. 2 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

    The problem is, if the Wolves do

    go to Seattle, what happens to the history? Are they the Seattle Timberwolves? Does KG get mixed in with Shawn Kemp?  Or are the T-Wolves forgotten until another team expands there?

    T-Wolves would be gone forever (or until another team gets there, which would be unlikely).

     

    This is how it's done now.

  7. 23 hours ago, GDAWG said:

    With regards to the Timberwolves, how is the Xcel Energy Center as a basketball arena?

    Not good.  They play some high school games there and the Lynx played there fo a season during Target Center renovation but I don’t think it is the key to keeping an NBA team.

  8. On 5/25/2021 at 1:06 PM, rjrrzube said:

    The real reason they wear white at home goes back to the early days. They wanted the crowd to see the other team's color jerseys, instead of blue vs white every week

     

     

    Weird, I know. 

    I recently read that it was to put the road team in a darker uniform in the Texas heat.  Though I don’t recall the source.

  9. It’s long past time for the Timberwolves to move.  That said, I don’t understand an 80-year-old billionaire maximizing a ten-figure sale at the expense of his home state.  It’s almost as pathetic as when octogenarian Carl Pohlad offered his original AL franchise to be eliminated in exchange for a pile of cash.

  10. 4 hours ago, JerseyJimmy said:

    following up on the Oilers and Flames takes, and saying this as an Islanders fan: the Isles looked much better in navy blue.

     

     

    I agree. 

     

    While I tend to agree with most people that the darkening of uniforms in recent decades has been a negative overall (as evidenced by soulless teams like the Mavericks and the previous Brewers look), I tend to prefer one vivid color instead of two.  For example, I am not a fan of the kelly green A's jersey.  I think the forest green looks a lot better alongside the yellow. Similarly, alongside orange, I tend to prefer a darker blue.  Maybe the darker trend pulled me in a bit, but I find multiple vivid colors to be a bit too loud for my taste.

  11. Every time someone makes a concept that matches the colors for the Cowboys, it's better in theory. But I've resigned myself to the fact that I like their mismatched colors.  The concepts are always kind of boring.  I'm not quite sure how or when it happened but I don't think there was ever a conscious decision to be unmatched. It just sort of happened, and I like it.  It's similar to when the Tigers made all their D's match; a smart idea in theory but I think both their hat and (especially) jersey were downgraded.

  12. 34 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

    I think they're counting on the out of towners to come in and watch. It works well for football, ideally, but I can't see a setup that requires fans of the visiting team to help fill the ballpark. In Arizona in February, it works because it's spring training baseball and people are avoiding the cold weather. But for a sport that runs during the hottest parts of the year that's a lot harder to do on a daily basis as opposed to a weekly basis. 

    Agreed. I'm not a "Vegas guy."  Been there once (for Wisconsin at UNLV) and it wasn't my kind of travel spot.

    That said, if I was, going for a Vikings game or making a long weekend for a Thursday Wild game in February?  Sure.  Hitting Vegas to see the Twins in July?  No.

  13. Side note: tonight was the return of doin’ stuff for me and I was able to sit right behind the dugout and watch LaRussa complain as Sano hit three HR and the Twins win on a walkoff.

     

    It was nice to be back.

     

    Edit: having not watched the game the night before I didn’t realize what had happened.  So that’s why the Twins threw at him and the pitcher was tossed.  So my team was also guilty of protecting the unwritten rules.

  14. With the Twins putting up historically bad numbers, I was a bit checked out.  


    Today I saw that Otani has 13 home runs and a 2.10 ERA. This is the kind of thing I always thought would happen when I was a kid because I didn't "get it."  If this was 30 years ago, it might even take sports-news priority over the daily repetitive coverage of an unhappy QB in May.

  15. 17 hours ago, LMU said:

    In fairness, sadly, college basketball players somehow latch on as tight ends with no experience (see: Antonio Gates), so Tebow may still find a way to back into another job.

    I'm not convinced Gates is a great example of why this is problematic, given that he was a pretty successful player.

    I'm as much of a Tebow detractor as most people (though clearly not as much as some on this thread) but I don't have a big problem with this (in a vacuum, anyway*). I'm assuming there's no or very little guaranteed money. And while he's almost a cult leader, I really don't see him making the team if his abilities/performance don't warrant it. Will he? I have my doubts but let's not pretend he's not a great athlete with great football knowledge. 

     

    *Of course, it is counter to the NFL's "distraction" aversion.

  16. I agree with the post about Washington being better off without yellow pants and not because some other teams wear them.  A few years ago, when I heard they were going with yellow pants, I thought it sounded great. But those pants never looked right to me.  Assuming they keep their general look and color scheme, I hope they keep with only white or burgundy pants.

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