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  1. I'm sorry, I didn't realize anyone could take a lottery team to The Finals.
  2. What? It’s no debate that only Lebron could take a lottery team to The Finals (he’s done it 2x now). You make it sound like anyone could do that.
  3. Not to take anything away from that ludicrous save by Holtby, but I think Anderson's save was a lot more ridiculous.
  4. Yeah, I mean he struggled so much against the best NBA players in The world, how can someone even say he hasn't been challenged when it's been 5 years since he last need a Game 7 in his own conference? I apologize for being so ignorant. Let's start over & pretend it never happened K?
  5. Don’t worry, I learned my lesson about daring to criticize the unfathomably dominant Lebron, who clearly struggled tooth & nail throughout his career through so much adversity.
  6. I was in the “who the hell cares” crowd with all this kneeling stuff. But now, if I was an NFL player I would kneel just to spite all these morons.
  7. Mariners looking sneaky good. Though they haven't had their annual summer collapse yet.
  8. What's frustratingly dumb is people acting like a guy making 8 straight against conference where he's been the favorite every year is some major accomplishment. If Lebron went 82-0 having only to play Atlanta, Kings, & Magic you would all laude that as some grandiose accomplishment. It's the kind of asinine thing only a fanboy would do. Beating up on players vastly inferior to you is not impressive, no matter how many times you do it. This whole time not one of you have been able to come up with an serious argument that he would've be just as dominant out in The West as he has been in The East. Instead just saying how it "laughably stupid" or making up excuses like "The West would be different" and pretending that makes you right. If you want me to stop, then quit acting likes fanboys that believe him dominating a conference that hasn't been a challenge to him in years (so much so he had to handicap himself with a trash team) is some colossal achievement. When all stacked teams that could beat you are in the other conference, it's not. IDK how blind you have to be to not see that having a 3-6 record along with the fact he hasn't been the favorite in something like 7/9 Finals, is a red flag that maybe he has been helped by the fact The East hasn't been quite as good as The West. Most of you already acknowledged that those Spurs, Warriors, and OKC teams were really good, so why is it so hard to understand that he may not have been as dominant if he had to face those teams before the Finals? It's such a simple observation you all made so much bigger than it hand any business being because you can't handle a bit of criticism against him.
  9. Keep hiding behind that “bitter Celtics fan” excuse, it really shows the lack of any actual argument you have. What i’m saying should even be that big a deal unless you are massive Lebron fanboys. The East hasn’t been a challenge for him in years. If he played in The West he doesn’t see the same success. The fact he breezes through The East every year, yet struggles in The Finals, and refuses to go out West lends credence to it. But sure keep believing the one using actual facts & logic is wrong. Totally not fanboys, you’re just blindly accepting his accomplishments without any actual context.
  10. Sure, but context is important. Yeah, surely it has nothing to do with the fact Lebron just made his eighth straight final with such a trash team. I do recognize Lebron is one the greats. But you can’t just blindly laude his accomplishments. I’m sorry but When you’re Lebron, making The Finals 8 straight years in a conference that hasn’t offered you a significant challenge since 2012, to the point where you’re willingly handicapping yourself with such a bad team, that’s really not as major an accomplishment as you would think.
  11. Because blindly lauding achievements without actually looking at the details and what they had to go through to accomplish it is ridiculous the the kind of thing only ignorant fanboys do. You look at something like "8 straight Finals" Normally that would be really impressive, but when you realize it's Lebron that did it against an East he's had by the balls since 2011, and look at the teams he beat to accomplish that, it's really not that surprising or amazing. Dominating against weak competition that aren't even close to your level isn't that impressive. Dominating against strong teams that still offer you a real challenge is amazing. Why should I be impressed by him dominating a conference that been his to dominate for the past near decade?
  12. We already know how amazing Lebron, that's nothing new. But you need to acknowledge the circumstances behind those accolades too. You can't just look at "8 straight" as some major accomplishment for him without looking at the other side of it and seeing The "competition" he had to get there. Why can't it be, "Yeah Lebron is one of the all time greats, but his dominance is a bit inflated because he played in the weaker conference while The Stronger teams were out West" why is a simple fact like that so blasphemous? Because people can't handle criticism of Lebron.
  13. The Patriots dominance in their division is part of my point actually. Lauding Lebron for his "8 straight finals" is like lauding The Patriots for their 16 division titles since 2018. It's not worth bragging about when you realize the lack of competition they faced to reach that. No one outside of Lebron fanboys are going to care so much about that 1 title. So you'd rather ignore all the facts and circumstances regarding his accomplishments and just blindly, unquestionably accept them? That's not smart, or healthy. And now imagine him have to face those teams in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round of The playoffs every year? Does he still dominate and make The Finals every year like in The East?
  14. you should really look up words before you use them. you seriously don't think people are going to question the supposed dominance of a guy that made 8 consecutive Finals but only has 3 rings to show for it?
  15. You can repeat the same garbage over and over, it doesn't mean when you are deliberately ignoring the facts.
  16. "Absurd assertions" Now that's some hilarious irony. If it helps you feel better then sure, You're already proving to be willfully ignorant. I'm criticizing the fact he has hasn't has faced serious competition in those 8 years, so it's not that impressive when you compare the teams The East has had to The West. Like it or not the fact he played in The East while The West teams were the ones really staked hurts his legacy. Not really considering the only real struggles he had was against those Westen teams in The Finals. Yeah, and look at the teams he had to face in those 8 years compared to The teams in The Western Conference. You act like The Teams he's faced were absolutely amazingly stacked teams. They were great but not as good as The Team's out West, Where most of those teams could have at least challenged Lebron. Dominating for 8 straight isn't impressive when there was almost never any challenge or adversity to it. So Sorry you're too blinded by your admiration of Lebron to realize him taking advantage of a weaker conference that's hasn't had a truly stacked team to challenge him since like 2012 isn't that impressive. The West has The Kawhi Spurs, Kobe Lakers, Curry's Warriors. How many teams like that has The East had? Making 8 straight Finals when having to go through some of those teams through The Years, now that would be an accomplishment. Again, it's not a hard or terrible thing to acknowledge that his legacy will be hurt a bit because he played in a weaker conference while all the stronger teams were out West, and he has a losing record when having to face those teams. The Fact he only has 3 rings when he's going to his 8th Final kind of proves his dominance is more a product of how bad the East has been in those years.
  17. Considering The West has had much stronger teams over The Years in comparison to the East, it certainly diminishes the accomplishment. And at this point him making it to The Finals with such a bad team is kind of a troll to all the other teams in The East. It's not exactly a hard question to answer and you're making it needlessly more complicated than it has to be just to defend him. Give him the same calibre of teams he's had over the years, but in The West. Where he has to go through Kawhi's Spurs, Kobe's Lakers, Grizzlies, Curry's Warriors, The Rockets, etc over the years, does he replicate the dominance he has in The East? You know the answer is no he doesn't. So why is it so hard to accept that he's benefitted by staying in the weaker conference and that diminishes those kind of achievements? Like bragging about all the division titles The Patriots won. Sure it's impressive, and may not happen again, but it's not that impressive when you realize the lack of any real competition they faced for it. Again, If he did that while facing all those amazing teams The West had, that's certainly more of an accomplishment to the clabre you think it is. put him on The Kings, does he make The Finals this year like in The East. No he doesn't. He loses in the first round. Lebron doesn't have the same success in The West going through all those stacked WC teams through the years as he does in The East. Why are you all trying so hard like massive fanboys to avoid the fact? Would he still be considered one the greats? Yes, but he'd just have a fraction of that success because he actually faced competition getting there. It's not a bad thing to acknowledge, "hey this guy was one of the greats, but the fact that he never faced strong competition (except at The Finals where he clearly struggled) hurts his legacy a bit."
  18. So if The Seattle team ends up being bad, having the same expansion rules as Vegas, was Vegas still "gifted" a championship calibre team?
  19. He's had the option to go to a Western team. Hmmm, why do you think he hasn't? Could it be that he's smart enough to realize he wouldn't have nearly the stranglehold on The West as he does in the East? The fact that he can troll his way to The Finals with this team shows it is kind of on him. What the Hell are teams like The Raptors & Pacers supposed to do when even with their best shot they can beat a team Lebron through together at the last minute? How can you not see Lebron making the Finals with such a bad team isn't a bad look for The League. Yes of course The League & Networks love it, just like the love The Knights making The Finals in their first year. But when some garbage team can go all the way because of 1 guy, it kind of sits on everything you're supposed to value in sports. How is it a great narrative? We already know at this point Lebron is one of the greatest to play and this is just bludgeoning our heads with the fact. It's not like he missed The Finals the past few years and people questioned if he'd ever make it back again, and then he does with a :censored:ty squad no one thought he would. It's the exact opposite. It's not impressive anymore, it's completely embarrassing that he can single handedly take a lottery team that he throw together midway through the season to The Finals again. For most of the teams in the East, it's like "what's the :censored:ing point?" he just trolled an entire conference and you somehow think that's a good thing? And I keep noticing my main question keeps being dodged, Does Lebron see the same kind of success if he played his career out West? Does he still make 8 straight Finals or anything close to that? That's been my whole point from the beginning. As amazing as he is, his achievements like "8-straight Finals" and dragging this shiity team to The Finals is more a product of how bad The East has been over the years. That doesn't happen out West and you know it.
  20. No, you just want it to because it's an easy scapegoat. Maybe it has something more to do with the fact Lebron made it to The Finals with another lottery team? I've said before I'd still be as pissed if it was the 76ers or Bucks he beat in the ECF. Again, you think Lebron gets away with this trolling garbage in The West? Considering everyone's unyielding defense of him, you probably do. Do you also not understand how it's kind of an embarrassment to the league Lebron can take a band bums thrown together halfway through the season to The Finals?
  21. It's funny how are trying to use the Celtics are some scapegoat. It has nothing to do with them and everything to do with how watered down the East has been since Lebron took over. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that he probably would not have done as well in The West where the teams have been so much better? And that maybe, given his finals record, his dominance might just be bit overstated given the lack of any real challenge for him in The East. I mean, Lebron having a bit more of a challenge having to play against The Spurs, Lakers, Warrior, Rockets, through the years shouldn't be a hard thing to accept. But you keep think thinking he'd own The West having to go through guys like Kobe, Kawhi, Duncan, Durant, CP3 and Curry the same what he's dominated The East. That's just ludicrous. You think he gets away with trolling the league bringing this garbage team to The Finals out West? Yes or No.
  22. I am 100% in the opposite camp. Variety is what makes things interesting. The NBA is so :censored:ing boring with the exact same rerun Finals for the 4th straight year. It’s bad enough when 1 team is dominant and makes consecutive appearances but both? The hell is the point in watching? Especially since people this outcome day 1....of 2016. None of the teams of matter outside of 2 have mattered since like, 2014. On The other hand no one know what to expect with the Cup playoffs. Yeah Penguins were in it and had a chance of 3-peating, but it didn’t seem obvious or even inevitable like Cavs-Warriors Final did. it’s far more embarrassing to see a :censored:ing lottery team make the championship solely because of one generational talent on the team. Vegas doesn’t seem so bad compared to the joke Lebron turned the NBA into.
  23. pretty sure most people believed neither team stood a real chance against The Warriors.
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