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None of these are what I would call bad, but they are fairly "meh" and predictable. If you're gonna cross over into baseball, then consider the norms of MLB uniforms.

For one, very few teams put their primary logo on their hat except for those who made their hat logo their primary logo. Even then, for many of the ones who do, the logo is still a monogram (Brewers, Expos, etc.). For the Bills, I don't mind that you used the primary logo due to Buffalo's history with the Blue Jays... one of the few teams who actually do that. But the Falcons and Ravens have an A and a B that would look great on a hat by themselves. As do plenty of other teams.

Also, instead of just slapping a team's primary wordmark on to the jersey. Look for stuff from their history that might work better in a baseball context. Also maybe consider taking a deep dive into the histories of MLB or MiLB teams that happen to share the same name as a NFL team (Columbus Jets, Dubuque Packers, St. Louis Browns, Syracuse Chiefs, etc.).

Just my .02 on what I think would help this series stand out amongst the many other like it that have been posted before.

Go Philwaukee!

How much more intense is the Cubs-Cardinals rivalry in an alternate timeline where they play just up the Lakeshore?

On 7/28/2023 at 10:53 PM, Yee Yee Go 'Stros! said:

I like the N.Y. Reds.  Only thing is, as an "original 8" team with a preestablished history, I don't know if they would use the Giants logo a la the Mets.  Otherwise looks good!

I mean, the Braves are an Original 8 club and they lifted the block M from the minor league Milwaukee Brewers.

I feel like they could have lowered the sunburst to incorporate more of the ball. But overall I like these.

20 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

And Miami!!!

For all the championships they won in red and black, I really love their og Vice jerseys.

The cool thing about Ohio Invaders is that you can play around with the roundness of the logo and make it look like an O.

You probably didn't know this, but black and orange are the colors of Massillon High School, which is Canton High's rival. So I'm not sure the locals would like this one. 

Canton's colors are maroon and white IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong, Ohio folx). So maybe start from there?

I'm also not sold on the Outlaws identity for this part of the country. Maybe the Canton Bulls? They wore maroon and had one of the best looks in the original USFL. Canton also has enough cache in the world of pro football to stand on its own.

Nice effort. But I feel like the Astros identity is way too "space age" to really work for an older east coast city.

36 minutes ago, MJD7 said:

Thanks! That’s pretty cool, is there somewhere I can see it, or have you not published it yet?

Not published yet. I'm not quite satisfied with how I'm entering the 1970s. But here's some highlights of what I've got so far.

-With the Browns/Brewers back in Milwaukee, the Braves move to Kansas City instead.

-With Kansas City occupied, the A's move to Baltimore where they actually did have something of a fanbase. They may or may not eventually end up in Atlanta.

-Since the Dodgers got their dome, the Giants either move to Minnesota or end up in Shea with the Football Giants. The Jets don't exist in this universe, but the Brooklyn Titans do.

-With no MLB teams moving west, the PCL becomes the third major league, now known simply as the Coast League. They move their smaller market teams into bigger western markets such as Dallas, Denver, and Houston.

-The original Washington Senators move to Fort Worth around the same time, mirroring the NFL/AFL feud in the Metroplex.

Right now, the scenario I'm working with is leading to four six-team circuits with the fourth being made up of two teams from each of the other two leagues. The next round of expansion after that will focus on giving all four leagues 8 teams.

6 hours ago, MJD7 said:

What if... the Browns relocated to Milwaukee?

Once the Busch family bought the Cardinals, Browns owner Bill Veeck knew he couldn't keep his team in St. Louis, so he tried to move to Milwaukee in 1954, but it was blocked by AL owners. Brown is paired with gold for this version.

 

 

 

 

Love the colors! This is actually what they use in the alt timeline I've been working on where the Browns move to Milwaukee rather than the Braves. (The Dodgers get their dome in Brooklyn too and never move to the coast.) Blatz was the Braves primary sponsor in real life, so I figured the Browns would use the opportunity to adopt the company colors.

That said, I'd love to see a Brewers version on this because no way do the Browns not revert back to that name if Bill Veeck is successful in moving them back to Milwaukee.  Veeck wanted to go to Milwaukee because he had a successful run as the owner of the American Association's Brewers. 

4 hours ago, johne9109 said:

That's what I though. So it does make you wonder how that would've affected their look if this verions of the Browns existed.

In my alternate time line, the Brewers (Browns) and Padres ended up with each others colors. San Diego being a Naval town and all.

Wow... good call on using the Packers pro stripe as the sleeve piping.

Only thing I'd change is using the singular A on the sleeve patch. It gets mashed down too much with "A's"

I love how naturally this one works out. Twins now referring to the "twin" Carolinas.

I'd take it even further and utilize the TC logo. Which becomes a CT for our purposes.

17 hours ago, MJD7 said:

What if... the Pilots remained in Seattle?

The Pilots only lasted one season in Seattle before moving to Milwaukee in 1970 and becoming the Brewers, but what if they were able to stay? This set takes heavy inspiration from the Mariners' recent City Connect jersey.

 

 

 

 

This is from the verse where the St. Louis Browns moved back to Milwaukee instead of the Braves. 

On 6/18/2023 at 8:08 AM, MJD7 said:

What if... the White Sox relocated to Milwaukee?

The Sox played 10 regular season games in Milwaukee in 1968, seen as a move by Bud Selig to try to lure the team to move there. Red & gold accents are added to the Sox' look to capture the Germanic culture in the city.

 

(As with many teams in this series, credit to @SFGiants58 for the original inspiration.) Also, here it is, @NicDB!

 

 

 

I like these more than I would have expected. The city connect numbers work surprisingly well for this. That said, if the White Sox moved to Milwaukee and did this, a lot of Polish-Catholic Southsiders would have been very upset.

I would hope if the Sox had moved to Milwaukee that they would have went with something closer to those gorgeous, underrated uniforms they actually wore when they played a portion of their schedule in Milwaukee back in 1969.

10 hours ago, Digby said:

Westown MKE? 414 FC? I legitimately do not understand the appeal of these bizarre abstract options that lower-league soccer drools over.

The fanbase for minor league sports tends to be hyper local to begin with and soccer has a culture that goes hand in hand with that sentiment.

I'm not a fan of everything that yields. Trust me... some REALLY bad name got weeded out in Round 1. Some idiot suggested Milwaukee Cheese for god sake.

But Westown MKE has grown on me. I'm less sure about 414, but I could still see it working under the right circumstance.

6 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

1846 Milwaukee

Cream City

Milwaukee Brigade

Milwaukee Iron

 

Milwaukee Brigade would be my preference It honors King’s Wisconsin Brigade/the Iron Brigade of the United States Civil War, a Union Army infantry unit primarily comprised of soldiers from three Wisconsin.regiments.  The name would also tie into the Iron District stadium location. I could see the brigade’s distinctive black wool Hardee hats being incorporated into the soccer club’s visual branding, with “Black Hats” being a nickname for the team.
 

After Milwaukee Brigade, I’d probably rank my remaining candidates Milwaukee Iron, 1846 Milwaukee, and Cream City.

I'd say Milwaukee Iron does this as well as Milwaukee Brigade... only it has the added bonus of the supporters club being the Iron Brigade.

Milwaukee Iron was my submission because the'll be playing in the Iron District, it's slang for a Harley Davidson, and it reminds me of traditional club names such as Bethlehem Steel. 

That said, I actually really like Westown MKE.  Westown is the neighborhood where the Iron District is located and you hardly ever see clubs named after neighborhoods on this side of the pond. 

Tall Boys would be fine as an unofficial nickname, but making it official would make us sound hokey and pub league.

The White Sox played home games in Milwaukee in the late 60s. My grandfather moved from the southside of Chicago to Milwaukee just before then. I'd love to see the verse where the Sox followed him across the border.

Perhaps the title can be changed since it's no longer 2022 and I'm not sure this topic warrants an annual thread.

But the final 32 choices for the name of Milwaukee's USL Championship side have been released. 

Not a big fan of the L... I feel like I'm watching Laverne & Shirley lol.

Otherwise you've stayed pretty true to the A's traditional identity. I almost wonder if there isn't room for a "night" black jersey with neon green and yellow.

On 5/24/2023 at 9:07 PM, raysox said:

Lol well I will say the comments on North Carolina were frustratingly predictable, to no ones fault. I heard the same thing on twitter from UNC fans.

I've been trying to figure out how to address them for a few days. I feel like i'm receptive to feedback as a whole. That being said, I think I just like the red and black more? I tried a few quick ideas, the Hickory Crawdads comment was a good shout. It was definitely a mistake to tie it to the Hurricanes and Wolfpack in my comments because these all are agnostic from existing pro teams. I can just see North Carolina being those colors. I felt Carolina blue was too tied to one specific team, a popular team no doubt, but I don't want to see this in game and just see a UNC uniform. Hell, it was a mistake having Tennessee orange and blue early on because I feel pretty similar. Hell, I had plans in my original color sheet to have a light blue, but moved away from it.

I'm still going to try and come up with some new ideas. I don't want to just add a stroke to the text and arm stripes because what I feel like is a strong 2 color identity immediately feels like a watered down 3 color identity with a color just to have it. I hope that makes sense, I totally get the feedback everyone had said and really appreciate the time it took to comment. 

Oh and Mississippi was designed simple, but of course Oakland and St. Louis have numbers so i'll see what they look like on Mississippi too.

Delaware and Pennsylvania are really cool, i'm excited to show you all in a few days. The last 15 or so have felt really strong and it's made me look back on the older ones and consider pushing more. Oh and @MJD7, the font is called Strikers Swash.

EDIT

 

What about something like this?

 

What if you just replaced the black with light blue, essentially making it the secondary color after red.

That way you have the state's famous shade of blue represented, but no one would mistake this team for UNC.

On 5/24/2023 at 5:55 AM, 8BW14 said:

As a rural resident and a deer hunter, I’m going to nitpick your flag. Your antlers are wrong, those are elk antlers. With the correct antlers, it’s an absolute homerun

Oof... exposed myself as a city boy, didn't I?

The Milwaukee USL Championship group has began voting on the team's name based on fan submissions.

Apparently they're doing a bracket of 64 candidates. Thank goodness, because most of the names they've voted on so far are embarrassing.

https://www.milwaukeeprosoccer.com/name-the-club

On 8/1/2022 at 7:48 PM, Discrim said:

While reading the comments to a recent JaguarGator9 video the other day, I came across a really dumb objection to something I've never heard anyone have a problem with: an apparent fellow Sconnie thinks no one should call the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the Bucs.  Because they might get confused for the Milwaukee Bucks.  I wish I was making this up.

Never mind that the topic was an official's actions before and during a Packers-Bucs game, making it rather obvious the Tampa Bay football team was meant, rather than the Milwaukee basketballers.  Never mind that sane people understand that "Buccaneers" is a mouthful, and so find "Bucs" an accepted shorthand...convenient enough that I'd guess "Bucs" is spoken by announcers in every game they've ever played way more often than "Buccaneers".  Oh well, dude can have fun with his dumb reasoning.

I got one even worse.

When I still lived in GB, a customer at my bar saw "BUCKS" and "PISTONS" on the bottom third of a game and thought it was weird that a NBA team was playing a college team... apparently assuming "BUCKS" was Ohio State.

So I was playing around with a flag designer I found online and came up with a redesign for my home state, which has yet another seal-on-blue flag. I made a couple different versions, but the symbolism is the same.

-The forest green backdrop represents the northwoods and Wisconsin’s parks.

-The light blue border represents the four waterways that help shape Wisconsin’s borders. The thinner side borders representing the Mississippi and St. Croix rivers, and the slightly thicker top and bottom borders representing Lake Superior and Lake Michigan.

-The off-white represents Wisconsin’s industrious heritage. Whether cream for the dairy industry, wheat for the agricultural industry, barley for the brewing industry, or the cream city brick made from the sands of Lake Michigan that built Wisconsin’s first cities.

-Seven stars represent the seven letters in the state motto: Forward. This is further emphasized by the 12-point star at the top of the horizon shining the brightest. This star also represents Wisconsin itself, as W is the middle letter in the word “forWard.” and symbolizes Wisconsin’s position in the North Central US. That star is surrounded by six 10-point stars. The 72 total points of the stars represent the 72 counties that make up Wisconsin.

-Wildlife and nature in Wisconsin is represented by a silhouette of a white-tailed deer, the state wildlife animal and one of three official Wisconsin state animals (the badger and domestic cow are the others). The deer is the only one of the three that can be found in all 72 counties.