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  1. Since we all like brands, can we admire just how great Nascar's recent social media posts have been? I really loved the modernized logo when it came out, and the push to make that primary colored, five striped crest more prominent and identifiable. It is just really good branding, and I would argue the logos and typefaces of Nascar are among the best in pro sports. More recently, though, their social medias have been amazing. The hype up videos and graphics for races are so well done, along with the fun and interactive stuff like a Harvick graphic with his car plowing through corn after he won at Atlanta. Like for the Martinsville race, they are just killing it with the "under the lights" aesthetic and getting people to want to watch the race with the brand. I think maybe I have a big appreciation for this because I run my school's sports account, but Nascar is really doing well with trying to reach a younger audience, and I wouldn't doubt that their Instagram has created fans of the sport.
  2. Really like the jerseys themselves, but a few things on the logos. For the primary, I feel like it is too stretched out, like it needs to be more like it would fit in a square than it would fit in a rectangle. Also, I think rotating it a little bit counterclockwise and making it a little less pointy would bring out the H and C I'm assuming you included (or maybe not I just really like to look for letters lol). The alternate hurricane flag logo would look even better if the lines had an even weight to them. I like the Bunch of Jerks concept, and that would be a cool 25th anniversary getup, which I think is coming up in a year or two. Good work!
  3. Okay children, I'm back with another coolio logo. It's been a minute but I had online finals to take, NASCAR was back on, and there's tons of stuff going on in the world, so I just wasn't in the mood to create or post anything. The NBA is done. I'll probably tweak the logos a bit more, but I am happy with the Vancouver Sealions, Seattle Supersonics, Pittsburgh Ironmen, and Tampa Bay Juice. So, now onto the league and sport closest to me, the National Hockey League. When I polled NHL cities a million years ago on Instagram, it started with Quebec City, Hamilton, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Houston, Saskatoon, Halifax, and Cleveland. That shrined down to just Quebec City, Kansas City, Milwaukee, and Cleveland as voted on by my followers. I decided to start with Kansas City: Alright so, it is literally the flag of the city flipped on its side. But doesn't it look cool? It forms a B obviously, but all the "Blades" teams that have come to hockey over decades, from the Saskatoon Blades to the LA Blades to the Florida Blades to the Kansas City Blades (not this one but an old minor pro team), have this look to their logos. It's usually a skate or a stick or just a shape with some kind of trailing streak behind it. Even the Canucks skate kinda has that look. This logo kinda acts like the definitive emblem of all the Blades that has come before it. I tried to mess with the look to make it more of my own thing, but I just kept looking at the very first design, where I literally rotated the Kansas City flag ninety degrees and realized the perfect look just landed on my lap, so I might as well just pass it on as my own. I'm hoping it comes off more clever than it does a rip-off, but I mean it's probably the least effort I've ever put into any graphic design work. I kept away from the "Scouts" name and logo for the probable offensive connotations they have, and I mean American Indian related names really just should not exist anymore. However, I kept the red, white, and blue colors of the city's old NHL team, which doubles as a patriotic thing kinda. The logo also has sort of a late 70s aesthetic, which also pays homage to the Scouts because that is when they existed. Colors work similar to the Leafs' (Leafs's?) or Lighting's logos, so it can be displayed in any one color to fit the background it is on, whether that be red, white, blue, or black. I think that makes this crest have much more potential to be timeless, being so simple and only having one color. If you can sketch a logo with a pencil in a few seconds, like you can with the Yankees or the Whalers for example, it probably is a pretty iconic design. What do you think? Am I a hack?
  4. That's the best case scenario in my opinion. I fear that going to the Superspeedway will just kill any hopes of the Fairgrounds. If it is a hit, I don't see why the Tennessee government or tax payers would agree to pay for a renovation of the Fairgrounds, when they already have a successful track. If it is a failure, there is no backing to pay for any renovation or any track, and the market loses the hopes for NASCAR.
  5. I mean just saying, half the comments on a post where the other half is mixed with politics, people talking about last Sunday's race, and other random nonsense is a pretty big majority. We could sit here until Daytona is in the ocean and guess what the silent fans are thinking, but we know for a fact what the loud ones are saying. Do I think everyone hates the announcement? No, of course not because I said that plenty of times. That's why I said "90 percent" and "half", and while I said "everyone" while mentioning the negativity, I also said "everyone" while mentioning the positivity as well. Not trying to put opinions into a bubble, just trying to express the general comments instead of going through each point anyone could make. Besides, it's sort of easier to just say "everyone" instead of "the majority" or "some people". I wouldn't generalize that Nashville Superspeedway needs no renovations. Associated Press has already reported the track is going to need "a modern makeover that would cost at least $8 to $10 Million." The place hasn't hosted a high level race since 2011. I would highly recommend a documentary about Nashville Superspeedway on Youtube to help be more educated on the state of the place. As far as Rockingham goes, North Carolina has already proposed a gift of $8 Million for a renovation of the track and entertainment complex. The truck series and ARCA ran there not even ten years ago, and they were generally well attended events. The track has a 2020 calendar filled with races (that sadly seem to not be happening due to the pandemic). Rockingham is even in better condition than Nashville Superspeedway. Not saying it should get a date over Nashville, but Rockingham is far from a money pit and it already has state backing. I will agree with you, though, that North Wilkesboro is a lost cause for right now. The only way I see that place coming back is if it is rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. Dale Jr. and the head of SMI could barely clean it up well enough to get it up on iRacing. Like I said before, it would cost money to get the Fairgrounds back, and really, it is not going to happen. In the first post on here, I said it wasn't going to happen, for now anyway. It's the fact that Speedway Motorsports Inc. (SMI) owns the track (as well as current tracks like Atlanta, Bristol, Charlotte, etc), and has allegedly told the owners of Dover to go and test their market, pretty much making their property and plans impossible. I mean, look it up, those plans for Nashville Fairgrounds look incredible, and those plans alone generally cost thousands of dollars in fees to architects and city planners. In simple terms: SMI made an oopsie and I feel bad for them. I said at the end of my last post that it could create some interesting racing, and I don't even mind intermediate tracks. Sure, I like short tracks better, but a concrete oval seems cool enough. You can't deny it was built around the same time as Chicagoland, Texas, Kansas, etc., and it follows the same sort of layout as them, but generalizing all those tracks as bad is wrong, and they all have hosted good races.
  6. You can go onto any social media post regarding the recent move and half the comments are somewhere along the lines of "I'm glad their coming to Nashville, but I wish it was the Fairgrounds.." Sure, the Superspeedway doesn't require as much updating, but more short tracks is literally all the fans want (and maybe road courses). That Bristol race on Sunday was great for all 500 laps. There were a lot of wrecks, passing, lead changes, and a fantastic finish. The Coke 600 at Charlotte the week before wasn't the worst race in my opinion, but you'd be hard pressed to find a good battle or any lead changes. Bristol is a short track and Charlotte is an intermediate. Personally, I think there is too much hate on mile and a halfs, but 90 percent of NASCAR fans will tell you they want more short tracks and less d-shaped ovals, so this announcement left many disappointed. Yeah, I think that too, especially with some drivers already saying it'll be slippery and hard to drive on. If anything, that will set this race apart from the others. Part of what makes Bristol so awesome is two or three grooves to race on. That high groove is faster on its own partly because of the concrete surface, but when the PJ1, a compound that creates more grip, comes in on the bottom, you see drivers pick both grooves. It is, as Kyle Petty may say, "incredible" to watch. If the Superspeedway has some sort of compound at some other groove that isn't the preferred way around, you may see some unique racing. It has been tried at other mile and a halfs, but none of those are concrete. Yeah, it is actually from this tweet where I got the whole SMI pushing Dover Motorsports to move their date to Nashville. I have no doubt that this will sell well, at first anyway. From what I've seen, everyone is happy in Nashville to get a race. Nashville is probably the perfect big "NASCAR city" that could stick with the likes of Charlotte, Atlanta, and Las Vegas. The thing I was really trying to say in my post was that this kills the Nashville Fairgrounds hopes, and it was a stupid move by SMI if they urged Dover Motorsports to put a race at the Superspeedway, because they already bought, manage, and own the Fairgrounds. If it is a hit, there is no reason for Dover Motorsports to move a race from there, no reason for NASCAR to ever taking a date away from Nashville Superspeedway and give it to SMI, and no reason for Tennessee to approve a tax to cover the cost of trying to renovate the Fairgrounds. If the Superspeedway goes over well, which I think it will for at least that four year contract period, there is no reason to sink money into a different Nashville track. The best racing track in the world could be sitting on the other side of Nashville, but if it doesn't have parking, independent funding, or capacity, there is no reason to abandon a track that is already making money for everyone and go spend money on a new one. If SMI blackmailed Dover, they are fools because it means their Nashville project is dead, and they may have to watch as another company takes their idea and runs with it. As far the fan in me is concerned with the announcement, I really couldn't care all that much. I'm excited to see the look and branding of a new race, being a big architecture and logo (who woulda thought) guy myself. I think there are good intermediate races, even if you get a dud sometimes. Nashville deserves a race to go to in their backyard, as well as St. Louis and Memphis finally having a drivable race to go to, about three hours away where the previous closest was probably Talladega at almost five hours away from each city. I think everyone is too negative already because its an intermediate (*ahem* Chase Elliot), and that if its not a short track it deserves to be burned, but there hasn't been a new track in what ten years? Still, the more business side of me, or more accurately "How do we make everyone (but the Nashville taxpayers) happy?" side of me, sees a missed opportunity to go back to the roots of NASCAR and bring a new short track to a market that thirsts for it. I'm so glad this thread has such a vibrant discussion. I'm happy this many people care about NASCAR.
  7. What do we think about Nashville Superspeedway? I would write here, but I already went off about it in a 2021 schedule thread I started. If anyone wants to have more of a discussion about the future of NASCAR instead of the 2020 season, that's there for anyone that wants to put their two sense in.
  8. Those would be amazing, but NASCAR doesn't own them. At the same time, though, they don't own Nashville or Dover (more on that later), and they still have two dates in 2021 that we know of already. I think Barber Motorsports Park would be great because Talladega always has some of the best attendance and ratings, maybe only behind Daytona in that regard, so giving that fanbase a road course would be a hit. Portland would be great because it would expand into the Pacific Northwest, and just the novelty of having stock cars there should get people to the track. I know ISC, now owned by NASCAR, in particular announced plans to expand to the Pacific Northwest fifteen to twenty years ago, but just couldn't take the risk when the sport's popularity started to decline. Would they be willing to buy Portland? They may even be inclined to buy BMP as a sister track to Talladega. I think five is probably the limit to road courses in the Cup Series, so even like a rotating lineup of them every year could keep things fresh. Oh jeez, I have no idea why they tested those cars at Sebring then. Maybe for cost reasons? I'm pretty dumb when it comes to how the cars work. Alright so just what everyone wants, they just announced a new mile and a half to replace a Dover date in 2021, Nashville Superspeedway. Which in case anyone doesn't know, is different from the short track, Nashville Fairgrounds, that everyone wants to see renovated and added to the Cup Series. I mean... it's a newish market that could work for NASCAR, but another mile and a half? What are they trying to do, screw Nashville over before they can even try the Fairgrounds? Apparently, SMI urged Dover Motorsports to move one of their dates that is usually at Dover to Nashville Superspeedway in order to test out the market. How much more testing out do they need? The awards are already there, the lower level series races are well attended at the Fairgrounds, and Tennessee is one of the only states that has a steadily growing interest in racing. If anything, this is just going to turn existing fans away that live in that area, because no matter if the racing ends up good or not, no ones going to want to spend money on an old mile and a half that hasn't hasted a Cup race in years because the racing even sucked back then. Casual fans in the area may be treated to bad racing, and they'll be turned off to the sport. And everyone else will have to watch another "cookie-cutter" track instead of pretty consistently decent racing at Dover (in my opinion anyway). I mean, whatever now there's some excitement sort of, but I don't see how this is going to help SMI. If the event is a hit, you just helped Dover Motorsports compete with one of your own tracks, Bristol, and now you either have to buy it off of them for a higher price than it was worth or risk having the Fairgrounds become pointless as you watch another Nashville track dominate. If it is a failure, then you just turned off every casual Nashville fan and this whole thing was a waste of time. Everyone thinks that the Fairgrounds are going to come to the Cup Series already because SMI showed us all the wonderful plans, so when it is revealed that the actual NASCAR coming to Nashville is a dusty mile and a half, everyone is disappointed. Just renovate Nashville Fairgrounds a stage at a time over a four or five year period while hosting races, and stop stalling. Update since posting: There's a four year lock on Nashville Superspeedway, and I don't get it.
  9. After doing more research, you're probably right. I have no idea if Cup Series cars could run on there, but from watching some footage and listening to how rough the 12 Hours of Sebring is on IMSA drivers, it would definitely be tough. At any rate, you aren't looking at 350 miles like I have it. It wouldn't be able to surpass 250 I would think, just because of the wear it would have on the cars, and they couldn't be worked on too much because I have Darlington four days after. Cup cars have tested at Sebring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yTanhDhF5g , but even in 2013 and 2016 they ran Generation 4 models that were in NASCAR in the 1990s and early 2000s, not current cars or even the Car of Tomorrow. I assume this is because the older bodies are elevated a good few inches above the track, compared to the newer bodies which leave less room. I'm guessing the older generation can take the bounces more. There's not even much hope for the Next Gen because that model looks even closer to the ground. I know in 2013 K&N ran a race at Road Atlanta, which is owned by NASCAR. It was just renovated, and I wouldn't be surprised if the lower series start racing there next year. This would be another nice road course in the southwest market, and when I made the schedule, I really only picked Sebring because it had steady attendance for all of its events. But with the upgrades to Road Atlanta, could it bring more people in to support a Cup race? I think it is probably possible. So if Sebring wouldn't work out, Road Atlanta could possibly work for a road course in the South Leg of the tour. Edit: Also, Sebring doesn't have lights so I have no idea what I was thinking to have it at 7 on a Saturday
  10. You're right idk where I thought it was Labor Day. Stupid me lol Still, I think Labor Day Weekend is a good championship date for the Cup Series in my opinion, even if the regular season would have to be pretty rigorous.
  11. The Clash and Speedweeks are already set for 2021, so that is how I kept them. Personally, I would have the Daytona 500 on Pro Bowl Sunday and then go out to Sonoma the Saturday before the Super Bowl. Generally, the first game of the NFL is played on Labor Day, so I thought it could be a tradition to air the last NASCAR race the day before. Anyone looking for pregame NFL coverage may just enjoy a championship battle. I think that NASCAR is associated with the summer, and I'm sure a lot of people don't even know it goes well into the heart of fall and the football season. Having the championship be the day before Labor Day can be a sort of send off to summer.
  12. Heard it was the highest attended Bristol day race since them darn Toyoters ruined the sport
  13. Not bad right? All the names of the races are weird estimations and creation by me. The basic idea of the regular season schedule is regions of tracks, called "legs" and named after the manufacturer plus Toyota bc why not, separated by big crown jewel events, which are named after NASCAR's four premier sponsors plus the Daytona 500. The playoffs are essentially a mini version of the regular season. There are plenty of road courses and short tracks that the fans want, but you gotta still get to the Chicagolands and Homesteads for the fans that go to those races. Alienating one and a half mile tracks and their fanbases is what got NASCAR in some trouble in the first place. As far as types of tracks go, there are pretty much 1-2 mile ovals mixed in with as many dirt tracks, short tracks, and road courses I could fit in. Each regional swing has the normal tracks everyone complains about in between at least one or two "exciting" tracks. For example, the Atlantic swing has Pocono and New Hampshire, but there's two road courses and a short track to break it up. Alright so anyone who thinks Nashville is ready to host the Cup Series next year is just oblivious to how long it takes to build a state of the art facility. That's why Bristol still has two dates. There is absolutely no way a track that much great racing with that much history shouldn't have a second race. The daytime spring attendance hasn't been stellar (even though its still better than a lot of races), so why not get rid of the daytime part? Put the night race during the regular season, and people will come anyway because it's the good ol' Bristol night race even under its 80s name, the Busch 500. Put a late summer playoff cutoff race at sunset in Thunder Valley, and people will still come. The place is just too massive and amazing to not try to get the cars here twice, and the way I have it set up should near sell the place out for both. Texas still has two dates because Circuit of the Americas has no ties to NASCAR, so you couldn't really put a race there. You still need two races in the state because the attendance is there for the most part, and it would be a shame to see state-of-the-art Texas Motor Speedway, built specifically for the sport, deteriorate more and more. My solution is to finally utilize the 0.5-mile dirt track on the property. Make it a big Texas weekend, one race on the dirt and one race on the 1.5 track, to reward the Texans for watching generally cruddy races two times a year. Ratings should be high and attendance should go from good to great. Texas is one of two dirt races on the schedule, the other at Las Vegas for the same reason as Texas, but its race isn't on the same weekend because everything has to be bigger in Texas, I guess. Vegas' dirt race is also during the playoffs, which should create great moments (if dirt is even possible, but I'll assume it is). Since the capacity at these two tracks is only around 15,000, they should be easy sellouts, and create a great atmosphere during the week in primetime. Also, ticket prices will start higher, since people will want to get their hands on them anyway and there is only a limited supply. The "Penske Challenge" is literally -insert gimmick here-. NASCAR won't be leaving Indy any time soon because Roger Penske owns it, and while I agree the racing isn't the best there, I think the people of Indianapolis can come around on the sport again. Some ideas are a fan vote race, a big payout race at Lucas Oil Speedway, or a team relay on the oval, which I think they tried to do at Speedweeks a long time ago. Anything that will be entertaining and bring people to the track, similar to the All-Star Race. Then, the playoffs kickoff on the road course, hopefully creating a big weekend that you can't miss but otherwise would. If it doesn't work, this is really the place I think NASCAR should try different experiments in that Penske Challenge Saturday non-points event, maybe something will stick. Some rapid changes: Sonoma gets moved to right after the Daytona 500 to hopefully keep any new viewers that tuned in to that race hooked in (which is a theme after the Crown Jewels), with a beautiful road course to kick off the West Coast swing. Pocono still has that double header, but one of the races is the Poval to mix it up (see what I did there), which wouldn't be the full road course they have up there but the one that only cuts out turn three on the regular triangle. Sebring has been added to the schedule a week or so after the 12 Hours of Sebring endurance race, so maybe people will spend the week during spring break. It is a road course, is attended well for IMSA, and NASCAR owns it, so I think it is a no brainer to go to this Florida track. Rockingham is on here, and no it is not the same situation as North Wilkesboro because it just hosted truck races a year ago plus it was just renovated. It was home to some of the best races in NASCAR history, and hopefully some day SMI buys the place the All-Star race rotates between Charlotte, Martinsville, and here. The tour goes to Iowa because once again, it is owned by NASCAR and it is a short track. Other than all of that, the big thing is probably the championship race, which I have at Atlanta, but it could really be any track not owned by NASCAR. Much like the NFL, cities that have tracks would have to bid and spend money on facilities to show that they deserve to host the final race of the season. It has to be a hyped up event with lots of other things to do and place to stay in the area. These cities could include: - Las Vegas, NV (Las Vegas Motor Speedway) - Fort Worth, TX (Texas Motor Speedway) - Charlotte, NC (Charlotte Motor Speedway) - St. Louis, MO (Worldwide Technology Raceway) - Memphis, TN (Memphis International) - any other city willing to put the money and marketing into their racetrack This seems sorta far fetched, but it's really not. If anything, it could be an excuse to redevelop an area of a city that you see so many times with arenas and stadiums. For example, if Memphis renovated and expanded its racetrack, it could create a new district in the area, bring NASCAR to a new city, and create new jobs in the area. If these tracks that have all been comfortable with each other going along with renovations and innovations at a slower speed, and now they're forced to upgrade in order to host NASCAR's final race, it will keep the sport fresh and on its toes. Also not that any date put as the championship would not have a date all year, and would be put in the spot of the track that hosted the championship the year before, after (makes sense right?) A few more things: the schedule goes at a breakneck speed to be done the day before Labor Day, the day the NFL starts, so it doesn't have to compete for FOX time, and it has a significant date every year. I think almost everyone associates NASCAR with the summer more than the already sports-filled fall anyway. Like they're doing now, these Sunday-Thursday races and similar would invert the top twenty for the next race, instead of qualifying and practicing over and over. Most of those two race weeks have ISC or SMI tracks in them that aren't far apart, so a ticket could be sold for both races at a lower price than the cost of one to try to get people to come to more races for less money. Some tracks were kinda moved around for weather, but not really. It rains at random all over the place, so to say that putting somewhere like Atlanta in the summer or something because of rain doesn't make a ton of sense. Anyway, I have typed too much, and I could honestly go on, it was that interesting to try to get that perfect schedule, I just had to share it somewhere. I doubt anyone will read all of this or even see it, but it was fun to do. I think I have carpal tunnel from all the typing, and it is wayyyyy past my bedtime. I think I might just fall asleep right on my keyboaedhsvgao4dex bsxz
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  15. Hey so... NASCAR is the only thing on TV right now, and I'm channeling my inner five-year-old. Since a little before the cancellation of everything, I've been on a little racing kick, and I'm really enjoying having a sport to follow during the summer since I'm not big into the MLB or MLS. 2021 is supposed to be a big year for NASCAR, or it was supposed to be until the pandemic hit (hence the 2021+). There's supposed to be a new generation of car, hopefully a new audience, and a whole new era of the sport. Despite NASCAR's President telling the media not to expect wholesale changes to the schedule, everyone seems to think there will be a whole new schedule, fit with new (and totally race ready) tracks such as North Wilkesboro, Nashville Fairgrounds, and Slinger Speedway, which will be run twice each. The rest of the races will obviously be run at Watkins Glen ten times and ten more will alternate between Bristol and Martinsville and the last ten will be run at Daytona backwards. Dem Toyoters and one and a half mile ovals are ruin this garsh darn sport, right? Anyway, I'm kinda believing the hype a little bit, and I was procrastinating other projects, researching all kinds of tracks and stuff, that I created a new one: my version of the "perfect" NASCAR schedule. I tried to keep this pretty realistic. Keep in mind that NASCAR owns ISC now so I put priority of those tracks compared to SMI and independent ones. For NASCAR, that's just one less group that gets a portion of the profits. There are still 36 races due to TV contracts mostly, but the season was still shortened with more races per week (like they're doing now). Also, I tried to cut costs with shorter races (which should increase viewership too), shorter distance between races, and less practice and qualifying as a result of more racing in a short period of time. Maybe this will start a conversation, maybe it won't, but it's burning a whole in my Spreadsheet so here we go...
  16. I mean it's an improvement I guess, but a sports team with the best designed logo out there could still have a bad brand if they were the Tri-State Turds" If anything, it just hurts the brand more because what people see and read and vise versa is all out of whack now. They should've just came up with a new name with the new logo. Maybe there were too many domains taken, so they couldn't change the name
  17. I really hate the win-and-your in thing. It was nice to have a driver everyone was rooting for, with a rival I think almost everyone was rooting against, and now it kinda feels over. I hope I'm wrong, but tell me why if you are Chase Elliot right now why you would push hard when you already have a win. Like I said, I'm a pretty new fan (or at least I haven't been into it since I was around 5), so have no idea what I'm talking about. But I am who NASCAR is trying to target right? And I think that the whole system is bad. I have no idea about cars and packages, but it doesn't take an engineer to figure out that who is crowned champion sucks. The old-old pre 2004 format is awful. I mean nearly every year back then, you'd have the championship locked up with ten plus races left. Now, everyone that has a sniff of talent and equipment makes the playoffs because all you need to do is win one of 26 races and then you can take the rest of the summer off. I mean theoretically, the drivers could overthrow the league and get 26 drivers in. It isn't trendy or even a gimmick, it just turns fans off and especially new ones who liked the purple and orange car, and found out their new favorite driver can't do anything significant the whole regular season. I mean I could be wrong on all of this, but that's the whole problem. A toddler can fill out a March Madness bracket, but this is too complicated for a sport founded on fast colorful cars going in circles (or ovals... or quad-ovals or whatever) I don't think 2004's Chase was perfect or anything, but its the best the sport has ever had. If it was up to me, and the slate was wiped clean, I do still think that was the best format. Not every driver got in. You had to be good for 26 races and great for 10 to win. There was advantages to being first in points at the end of the regular season. Since there's basically no new tracks in the playoffs anyway, there shouldn't be qualifying for the playoff drivers, it should just be based on standings so every race matters that much more. After all, the Sprint Cup era had the most eyes on it, so bringing that format back might draw people back in, and bring new people too. You could even bring back the "Chase for the Cup" name... or even better: "Kyle for the Cup" I like it better already.
  18. They should just close pit road on a green white checkered. If you would've otherwise have gotten to the end without getting tires, you don't need them now. It turns into punishing the leader, and it's not pit strategy. I think I jinxed Elliot with what I was saying before lol. Also, less people watched the Coke 600 this year than last year. This dumbfounds me. It's about a 500,000 person difference.
  19. I don't see the point in the competition cautions if there is a normal caution shortly before a regular caution. Last night, when there was a caution around lap 15, I see no point in throwing another automatic caution at lap 25. The battle for the lead was fantastic at that point. I think Jeff Gordon actually forgot about the competition yellow, and was like "oh yeah, that's why they're checking up." When there's a normal caution so close to that competition caution, I think should just be taken away or pushed back later in the race. By lap 15, you should know what adjustments need to be made anyway. They probably could've finished the race if there wasn't that competition caution. I do think they should shorten most races by about 100 miles each, but I still do like stage racing (coming from a newer fan). There's more racing and less playing it safe in my opinion, and as much as pit strategy is an integral part of NASCAR, I think that it allows for more competition, and less cars laps down because they had to put under green. Weird proposal: What if the stage restarted with cars around as far apart as they were before the stage end? Kinda like a head start. I have no idea how that would work, but I always feel bad for the leader that's running well on a run a half a lap ahead of the field, gets a few stage points, and then has to deal with a bunch of cars that get a skip-the-distance free card. Unlike other sports, I think NASCAR can be almost entirely luck some races, and not like a weird bounce to the slot in hockey or a strange error in baseball. Because those could really be prevented by the opposition in some capacity even if they are put in a bad spot, i.e. the goalie making the save or the defense lifting a stick, or another player backing up his teammate that made the error. n NASCAR, you could be in the lead, driving like a saint twenty car lengths ahead of the car behind you with 5 to go, and what do you know, Stenhouse spun himself out three laps down. Now, that twenty car lead is zero, and now you're a sitting duck for drivers who now suddenly have a chance to win. In fact, your luck is so bad that there's a high chance you'll get turned and not even finish the race because the world hates you. Still, that's what makes NASCAR fun, and I don't know exactly how to change the rules to make it fun and fair.
  20. (Sorry if some of your writing got deleted. I had to cut down some of the very rude comments you made. Trying to make myself look good here) You basically pointed out everything wrong with the Toilet Paper logo that I was too blind to see. I remember when I designed it, I just kept poking at it, adding something then command+z over and over, but I knew there was something holding it back. It was definitely not really looking like a Q, and it looked a little too... clipartish, I guess? I think that is because of that perspective error that you mentioned. I will probably fix it before it goes on Behance or anything and maybe even before the next round. For right now, I'm going to stick with it until I'm done the 18 logos, since my social medias are already branded with the current flawed version. Now, did I copy your Sealion? Yes... probably. I will tell you your logo looks incredibly familiar. Whenever I have a logo I want to make, I usually type in what company or team it is for into Google, for example "Vancouver NBA" for this, to get some initial inspiration. Then, I wait a few days in an effort to not copy something before I start designing. I guess that didn't work this time, and I think I may have subconsciously took your idea as well as a few other people's. I mean even a recent post by @BayBaseballFan uses that Sealion balancing a ball on its nose (only its done well unlike mine). As for the criticism, I completely agree with everything you said. Like the event logo, you pretty much opened my eyes up to what was making the design look off. I will probably never use the first Lion logo again though, but I think the second one can work just fine when I change some stuff, like the unnecessary shadowing. Thank you so much for all of that! I mean, it's amazing how much help you can get from random people on the internet. Of course, I deleted some of your positive stuff in an effort to make a bad joke, but I really appreciate it. Love your work too (so much that I stole it). Definitely a better designer after reading that. Thanks again. Thanks so much! I think I'm going to settle on Ironmen for now, even though it doesn't seem like anyone loves any of the names brought up so far. It just speaks the most to me. Alright you wild graphic designers, I know how to get this website turnt. Let's get some party poetry up in here: "I like that juice box wet, she keep that juice box juicy" That gets me right in the feels every time. These are words that can be only written by a Florida Man. I'd like to thank him for giving me the inspiration to make this logo: That Florida Man, by the way, is Pitbull. The best musician. Ever. The actual inspiration for the name is the fact that it has been brought up so many times for an NBA team, in name-the-team contests, rumors, leaks, but there's still not a team that has the guts to take it on. Can you believe they chose Magic, like the Mickey Potter nonsense (idk I didn't watch the movie), over the Orlando Juice? They chose the Miami Heat, when new fans were clamoring for the Juice (probably). This is the perfect name for a basketball team. It just makes me thirsty for some balls and backboards. As for the actual logo, it's a bit of a thinker (and a bit of a stinker). The idea was a dude holding a basketball like he's about to dunk it, but also some juice and an orange, but also a J, because I know the alphabet. I have no idea if I succeeded, but at the very least it is an orange and red ripoff of the Jazz. I mean if the Bucs are too deaf to bring back the creamsicle colors, someone has to. I will say that those colors alone make the logo pop out, which is nice considering the actual logo doesn't really make sense. Would Pitbull be proud? Maybe I should DM him. He'd probably just say "Dalé!" at me. or leave me on read. Welp it's worth a try. I'll get back to you all when I get a response.
  21. I really love this concept! Few things: - Maybe widen out the mountains a bit and take away the snowy tips. The letters will still be clear. - I would replace where black is with white and vice versa. This will really bring out the reds of the sky. Great work. Like the wordmark too
  22. Alright, I got you dudes covered (I think). Thanks for the feedback a ton. This really helped a lot! Presenting the new and improved (and strangely blurry) Seattle Supersonics: We got some nice darker colors @mvk, which are actually closer to the 2000s Sonics than the 80s Sonics that I was originally going for. This looks a lot better. The lines are now a little thicker @mbannon92, and there's less empty space. This really helped the proportion problem I was talking about, and even though its still not perfect, I am satisfied enough. More to come...
  23. I'm going to keep it the way it is for now. I want the logos to be relatively diverse, and as you will see, I have used and am planning on using heavy basketball-related imagery in the other designs. Besides, I feel like the greatest logos don't have to tell you what sport they belong to.. It is the same sort of thing as some teams adding their name and city to the main crest, like I whined like a kid about before. That being said, I am a hypocrite, but I am trying to only include a basketball in a logo if it really is detrimental in a design and really enhances it. I think that adding a basketball to the hammer would just distract from the rest of the logo. Thanks for the feedback though! Hey, I know only a few people saw the last post but no one answered... Hammers or Ironmen?? Alright onto the next city... And this one @mvk does indeed include a basketball, but I think it really is integral to the design. We got the much clamored for Seattle Supersonics: Unlike Pittsburgh, I think everyone would agree that Seattle needs an NBA teams and while the city doesn't exactly breathe basketball, they certainly shout out like they do. At this point, there is pretty much no excuse, with an NHL team coming, funding supported by the city, and the state of the art arena being built. I think the city collectively prays every night that Oklahoma City would fall into the ocean or desert or whatever is in Oklahoma. The Sonics were actually named to help promote the Boeing-12633298374 Jet (I don't remember or feel like looking up the number). It would be really easy to just cash in on the 90s-esque logo everyone remembers, but that nostalgia wouldn't last too long past the team's first few games. Why not go back even further into the Sonics history to create something really prestigious, which I think was achieved with this logo. It's a jet flying low across Seattle, passing by the iconic Needle, and its trails form a basketball for yet another circular logo (whoops). The Needle pierces through part of the circle, showing its height, and it doubles as a Jets-like compass, celebrating Seattle as the would-be northernmost city in the NBA. I chose SuperSonics over just Sonics because I think it adds more to the aeronautic theme, and it carries more pride. Also, there's no confusion with a hedgehog. This turned out alright I guess. I kinda think that the proportions are off, but it was the best I could get while still depicting a ball I guess. Tell me what you think. Also, Hammers or Ironmen? Tell meeee
  24. These are a really nice look, and I would say I probably like them better than the current set, for no other reason than maybe that they aren't a green Hawks look. Might as well go for a full star look like they went with when they won the Cup. Maybe not as in-your-face, especially since you don't have to. Fans will remember anyway. Maybe just change the bottom striping into a ^ shape and call it a classic. This one is probably just me, but I think that a black yoke on the home, and a green one on the away would make the uniform more balanced, but I certainly don't think it is necessary. Good work!
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