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Everything posted by Ridleylash

  1. I can't imagine Seattle's team would have a ton of reach beyond the northwest of the country anyways; Seattle isn't really a New York, Los Angeles or Boston-type city where the fandom is national in scale, so naming your team to try and make it appealing to people in markets that have very little impact on the place your team is actually located seems kind of dumb, especially in a regional sport like hockey where you know the brand won't be as ubiquitous as a team like the Red Wings or Leafs. That sort of appeal comes with time and success, not because you named your team a certain thing. You could name them the Seattle Rubber Puckies and they'd still be a big deal if they came out of the gate a dynasty.
  2. It's not even something that would be emphasized in the marketing besides like maybe some puns. If that's enough to turn you off, I'd dread to think what you'd be like back in the 2000's when fighting was way more prevalent then it is now. I don't see people throwing a fit over the Seahawks or Coyotes (and to a lesser extent, the Canucks) using Native art as a logo. As long as they avoid depicting an actual Native person and don't use a tribe name as their brand, I think it'll be fine. And? Who the hell cares about what Joe from New York thinks about the name, that's not the market they're appealing to. As long as it's received well in Seattle, then it's a brand that works. Do the Ducks stir much interest outside of the Orange County market? A penguin is a fat flightless bird. A leaf is an inanimate plant that exists to be eaten. A duck is a generally-harmless bird that is often eaten. Cardinals and orioles are small, harmless birds. Red socks and white sox are literally clothing. A cub is a baby bear. A packer is a dude who puts stuff away. A steeler is a dude who works at a steel mill. Blues is a music genre. A coyote is a smaller, less cool wolf. A senator is a dude in a suit. Lots of names can be derided for that kind of reason.
  3. They already have a script on the road uniform, so they might be using these to test the waters for the home whites, as well. Wouldn't shock me, seeing as how they won the WS in the navy script jerseys.
  4. Eh, I'd disagree, personally. I think there's concepts in those late 90's jerseys that are worth revisiting; the yellow music sheet-esque striping was a really fun idea that, applied to a more traditional striping arrangement, I think would be a perfect touch for the Blues, and the red provides a nice bit of extra punch that, handled a little differently, I think could be a nice secondary color to punch up the uniform. I'm not at all ashamed to admit that I have a leaning towards more non-traditional designs for certain teams, but it is only a preference at the end of the day.
  5. Honestly, I don't really think the navy even adds much to the overall design for the team. Having two shades of blue simultaneously, both of which kind of blend together visually at a distance, seems kind of redundant. Royal looks better and is less overused in the league than navy is, so I think ditching the navy is smart. I'll go ahead and be that guy and propose bringing back the red to replacy the navy. It's a tie to the state and city, it compliments the blue and yellow well and it means we can avoid the problem of white touching yellow by removing that outline altogether and just having two outlines; one yellow, one red, like so;
  6. I'd forgotten that at the time I'd written that comment. My mistake on that front.
  7. I'm going against the grain and going to have to drop my vote for the 09-18 logo. I've never been a big fan of the O's cartoony bird logos as primaries, they feel more suited as a secondary thing for me.
  8. I'm fairly sure normal playoff uniform rules apply where teams have to designate certain uniforms as what they're using and stick to them. The Coyotes, for example, are using the Kachina thirds as their designated home uniform, like how Carolina used their thirds as the home playoff jersey last year. I wouldn't be shocked if the Canes go black for the playoffs again, and same with Calgary and the retros.
  9. I think you could get away with a more consistent design by having the striping be a white/gold/white pattern all across the uniform rather than having all the stripes be gold except for on the pants. Spreads the white through the uniform rather then concentrating it in the logo and pants. The big problem really is just that the balance is kinda off; white's a prominent logo color that's basically minimized to the pants on the actual uniform itself, whereas gold is a trim on the logo but a prominent uniform color. Just making the color use between the pants and the rest of the uniform consistent would help the Sabres a lot, in my opinion.
  10. I mean, the pants stripe on the retros was gold trimmed in white; So there is some coordination in the identity for white-trimmed gold.
  11. I feel like that would come off a little too basic-looking, though, at least in my opinion. Like, people get on Vancouver's for using Agency without any outlines, but Buffalo using plain white block font would probably be just as ridiculed for being boring. Single-color block really only works, in my opinion, if your team has a very limited color palette to work with (Toronto/Tampa's blue/white, Detroit's red/white) or if you have multiple similar colors on a jersey. Buffalo has three pretty distinct colors (blue/yellow/white), so I think outlined numbers works well. Single-color numbers brings them even closer to Toronto and Tampa visually, just with some yellow in the striping; and since both are already in-division rivals, you want to stand apart from them as much as possible. Granted, Tampa's rebrand itself kinda dumps on this idea, but the many flaws of Tampa's redesign have been argued ad nauseum since it happened. I don't think Buffalo edging closer to two division rivals visually is a smart move.
  12. Spiders is the obvious choice, here, but I do actually think the name "Blues" is a good shout as a nod to the long history the rhythm and blues genre has with Cleveland, and a nod to the city's past in the MLB; plus, a musically-themed identity is something no other MLB team has. The only quibble might by if St. Louis over in the NHL would play hardball.
  13. Imagine if we had the "San Jose Rubber Puckies".
  14. The use of Native peoples in general is a hot-button issue, and there's long been a controversy surrounding the R*dskins for their logo and name because of the association. The fact that the Native's skin in the logo is a dark shade of red probably doesn't help matters, either. The best possible way to get rid of the stigma is to completely eject any references to the R*dskins brand and go in a totally new direction. I'd rather a team name that's a half-measure and kinda bland with a spear logo or something similar over a team name that's literally a pejorative slur for a race of people whose logo is literally a red-skinned Native person in a circle with feathers. It's still an improvement, even if it's only a half-measure. Jettisoning the name and trying your best to go forward with a brand that's not as controversial is just the logical marketing move at this point. I can't see the name not changing, and I'd have to imagine a name change would come with a logo change.
  15. The logo is part of the problem, though. You can't just change the name, the logo also has to go. Going for the spear logo and something that deliberately avoids leaning on Natives as an identity should be the easy way to go. "Washington Warriors", "Washington Pioneers", "Washington Spearmen", etc.
  16. The Coyotes are using the Kachinas as their social media logo and are using them for all their playoff home games, but the graphic is still using the howling coyote logo. Something tells me that it might just be the the normal logo but without the white outline. The yellow looks closer to the modern colors then the retros, too.
  17. Eh. I like the idea of "Warriors". Completely drop any connections to the R*dskins name and focus on the spear as the main logo of the team and I think that'd help the team's PR by completely removing ties to that former name.
  18. Unfortunately, I don't think much of anything will change Snyder's mind...though hopefully mounting pressure from big sponsors will make him actually consider it.
  19. Unless you pried the name from the London Knights, there was no way for them to just be the "Knights".
  20. Eh, never been a fan of the name "California Angels". Always preferred them going with "Anaheim Angels", personally; that name has a great ring to it. "Los Angeles Angels" is kinda silly-sounding when you translate the city name ("The Angels Angels"? Seriously?) and "California Angels" is a bit too broad when we have teams in Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco and Oakland. It doesn't hurt that they won the World Series as the Anaheim Angels, either. If I owned the team, I'd go with Anaheim Angels and embrace the locale instead of trying to compete with the Dodgers for LA; because that's not a fight you can win in any reality. The Dodgers will always be LA's baseball team first and foremost, so the Angels instead focusing their efforts on the Orange County region and offering a more distinct alternative would be fairly smart, from a business perspective. The Ducks certainly don't seem to suffer from their focus on Anaheim and Orange County as their market instead of the wider LA metro, so I find it weird that Arte is so determined to try and be the eternal little brother. Better to have 100% of Orange County then like 30% of LA proper.
  21. FC makes sense in soccer, because most teams are "city name FC" or "city and team name FC". It makes very little sense in hockey, considering no North American team uses the HC label. It's not the "Boston Bruins HC", it's just the "Boston Bruins". Seattle just being "Seattle HC" would be the second-dumbest name they could possibly go with. Only "Kraken" would be worse, in my opinion. I'm hoping to God they don't go with either of those.
  22. It could also just be because blue and yellow were complimentary colors. Branding wasn't as excessively verbose back in 1970 to where colors had to mean deep things.
  23. "Kraken"'s grown on me the same way a tumor would; it's growth, but that doesn't make it good.