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  1. 9 hours ago, McCall said:

    They own OKC, so that makes sense (though I've still never read why they bought OKC).


    When the Dodgers shifted their Class AAA allegiance from the Albuquerque Isotopes to the former Oklahoma City RedHawks, at least one report that I read at that time indicated that the Dodgers were wanting a Class AAA affiliate that played home games in a locale with a lower altitude than Albuquerque, even if the new team's base was even farther away from Los Angeles.  Such a desire makes at least some sense when one considers the relatively low elevation of the field at Dodger Stadium.

  2. If an NBA team can make a game end early by being up by twenty or more points after three quarters or gaining a lead of twenty or more points during the fourth quarter, then, for better or worse, a team in the lead would have a strong incentive to try to run up the score throughout the second half (and especially in the last few minutes of the third quarter).


    Granted, I am not sure as to whether or not the NBA should adopt any kind of mercy rule, but I think that the NBA and practically every other basketball competition are far overdue for an embrace of probably the best deterrent of game-slowing, boredom-and-frustration-inducing intentional fouls that anyone has devised so far in the whole history of the sport: the Elam Ending.

  3. 3 hours ago, DNAsports said:



    That logo looks too much like the emblem of a German car manufacturer whose vehicles have not been sold under its own name in the United States since the 1970s.




    Ironically, Opel, which was a subsidiary of General Motors until 2017, is now owned by a French company that has agreed to a merger with Fiat Chrysler Automobiles -- the parent company of the firm that absorbed the original American Motors Corporation in 1987.

  4. 3 hours ago, _J_ said:

    Honestly? A team named the presidents would be tied to whoever is in the office. Is it unfair? Possibly, but the first thing that would come to mind is whoever is in office at the time. All of the other ones manage to be abstract concepts.


    On the other hand, someone who dislikes whoever is the President of the United States at the moment, but is a fan of a Washington Presidents team, might display a sign at a game or post an image on social media that has a picture of the POTUS with a caption like "THIS is NOT my President!" next to a team pic with a caption such as "THESE are MY Presidents!"  Also, just imagine the many American Revolution-inspired chants and memes that could be created if a Washington team nicknamed the Presidents plays for a championship against a team with a monarchic nickname.


    2 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

    I'd even suspect that takes Senators off the table.  Even in 2004 or whenever the Expos moved, government is too polarizing at this point.  In 1901 or whenever the original Senators were named, it was probably received better than it would be today.


    From what I remember, the notion of changing the Expos' nickname to the Senators was opposed by Washington, D.C.'s local political establishment not so much because of any general sense of polarization regarding the federal government, but rather because of ongoing displeasure over the District of Columbia's lack of representation in the United States Senate.  At least one politician in that city suggested Grays, the nickname of a Negro League baseball team that split many of its seasons between Pittsburgh and the District, as a better identity for the team, so the eventual branding of the Washington Nationals may very well have been a compromise between Senators and Grays.

  5. I have never understood why Presidents has never seemed to be a popular choice for a nickname for any sports team based in Washington, D.C., let alone the frontrunner in the debate over what should be the new nickname for Washington's NFL team.  A Washington Presidents identity would be an excellent way to convey leadership without having to resort to a monarchic (e.g. Kings, Monarchs, Royals), feudal (e.g. Barons, Dukes), or military (e.g. Admirals, Colonels, Generals) theme.  Also, with particular regard to the apparently most likely new nicknames for the Washington Football Team, Presidents would be less generic than (Red) Wolves, be more relevant to D.C. than Red Tails, avoid the awkwardness that a singular noun like Alliance would have, and be free of the Brandiose-style gimmickry of a Seals brand with a Navy SEALs theme.

  6. Here is my proposal for a 32-team, eight-division setup for Major League Baseball, assuming that all existing teams stay where they are:


    • American League
      • East Division
        • Baltimore Orioles
        • Boston Red Sox
        • New York Yankees
        • Toronto Blue Jays
      • North Division
        • Chicago White Sox
        • Cleveland Guardians (renaming)
        • Detroit Tigers
        • Minnesota Twins
      • South Division
        • Dallas-Fort Worth Rangers (renaming)
        • Kansas City Royals
        • Nashville Stars (expansion)
        • Tampa Bay Rays
      • West Division
        • Anaheim Angels (renaming)
        • Arizona Diamondbacks (league swap)
        • Oakland Athletics
        • Seattle Mariners
    • National League
      • East Division
        • New York Mets
        • Philadelphia Phillies
        • Pittsburgh Pirates
        • Washington Nationals
      • North Division
        • Chicago Cubs
        • Colorado Rockies
        • Milwaukee Brewers
        • St. Louis Cardinals
      • South Division
        • Atlanta Braves
        • Cincinnati Reds
        • Houston Astros (league swap)
        • Miami Marlins
      • West Division
        • Los Angeles Dodgers
        • San Diego Padres
        • San Francisco Giants
        • Vancouver Maroons (expansion)


    With this alignment, and particularly with the placement of expansion teams, geographic symmetry is paramount:

    1. A switch of leagues between the Astros and the Diamondbacks not only brings the NL back to Texas, but also gives the AL a presence in the Mountain West.
    2. A Vancouver NL expansion franchise endows the Senior Circuit with both a return to Canada and a presence in the Pacific Northwest.
    3. A Nashville AL expansion franchise means that, at last, the Junior Circuit has a team in a southeastern state other than Florida.
    4. Each league's East division consists solely of teams located both north of the Potomac River and east of the State of Ohio.
    5. Each league's South division has one team apiece in Texas, Florida, a second southeastern state, and the Lower Midwest.
    6. Each league's West division includes a Pacific Northwest club and contains only teams located west of the Continental Divide.

  7. As I observe these boycotts, postponements, and cancellations in response to the pandemic of discriminatorily violent treatments of Black people by white police officers, I cannot help but be reminded of the 1987 movie Amazing Grace and Chuck.  The premise of the film is that a young boy (Chuck) becomes so bothered by the existence of nuclear weapons that he quits playing competitive baseball, and his decision inspires many professional athletes (starting with a basketball star nicknamed "Amazing Grace", portrayed by then-real-life NBA player Alex English) to end (or at least pause) their careers as a mass protest against nuclear proliferation.  I have long thought that this movie had a rather naïve and corny plot, but now I am beginning to think that it has become a surprisingly prescient story, even if the overall motive for these disruptions of play is quite different.

  8. @Jamesizzo, if you want an NBA with four divisions of eight teams apiece and you want to revive the Seattle SuperSonics, then I can think of two better ways to make that happen.

    1. Let all existing clubs stay where they are, forgo an NBA version of the Kentucky Colonels and thus enable the Memphis Grizzlies to play in the Central Division, and grant expansion franchises to both Seattle and another locale in the Pacific Time Zone; or
    2. force a reversal of the ethically questionable relocation that created the Oklahoma City Thunder and thus give the original SuperSonics franchise back to Seattle, have the Memphis Grizzlies play in the Midwest Division, and put expansion teams in both Louisville and someplace in the Pacific Time Zone.


    The NBA's new team out west could be

    • in Las Vegas,
    • a third chance taken on San Diego (a former home of the Clippers and, before that, the original home of the Rockets),
    • a third team in the Greater Los Angeles region (The Vancouver Grizzlies' last owner, Michael Heisley, gave some thought to bringing that team to Anaheim before he chose Memphis as the Grizz' new home in 2001, and the Sacramento Kings came close to becoming the Anaheim Royals nearly a decade ago.),
    • a second team in the San Francisco Bay Area (Around the same time that Sacramento was on the brink of losing the Kings, Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison tried to buy the current New Orleans NBA club and, despite his public denial of a desire to relocate that team, was heavily rumored at the time to have wanted to shift that franchise to San José.), or
    • a brand-new franchise for Vancouver.

  9. 3 minutes ago, the admiral said:

    Snyder will probably have the NFL give ESPN a call. Can't have an official partner of the league playing the Voldemort game with them. Tiptoeing around it is one thing, doing a listicle with the name and logo missing probably drew too much attention. 


    As the home of Sunday night NFL games since 2006, NBC is also "an official partner" of the NFL, yet the NBC-owned Pro Football Talk website has gotten away with making the bare minimum of mentions of the Washington team's nickname for many years now.  These days, pretty much the only places in which one will find that nickname mentioned within PFT are in tags for articles and in comments by some readers of the site.

  10. 6 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

    I doubt it's Kraken, honestly; the emphasis on the issues of trademarking makes me think they're heavily pursuing Sockeyes.


    We should keep in mind that Kraken may have its own obstacles to trademarking.  A spiced rum produced in Trinidad and Tobago has been sold under the Kraken name for roughly a decade now, the SeaWorld Orlando park includes a Kraken roller coaster, a small-time wrestling promotion company owns "Kraken Legion" as a federally registered trademark in the United States, and ... of probably the greatest importance to any sports team wanting to have Kraken in its name ... an esports company known as Super League Gaming is trying to gain US federal registrations for the name "Vancouver Krakens" and a logo containing said name.  (However, a check of the database of the Canadian Intellectual Property Office does not show any attempt by Super League Gaming or any other entity to register a "Vancouver Krakens" trademark in Canada.)

  11. 3 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

    Let's just say, for the sake of the history, that Calvin Griffith purchased the Minnesota Saints while the Saints' now-former owner bought the Senators and moved them to Atlanta. Think the Celtics-Buffalo Braves or Rams-Colts swapenings.


    Given the rather anomalous natures of the Colts-Rams trade and especially the Celtics-Buffalo Braves swap (in which the Buffalo team's recipient had a clear-cut desire to own a California-based NBA team, was unable and/or unwilling to move the Celtics out of Boston, and transformed the Buffalo Braves into the San Diego Clippers shortly after that exchange of franchises), I think that a more plausible fate for both Calvin Griffith and the Washington Senators in this universe is if Griffith buys the Minnesota Saints (quite possibly from a person or family going through a high degree of financial distress) and sells the Senators to an Atlanta-based third party, or at least a third party who happens to want to bring an MLB team to Atlanta specifically.

  12. 2 hours ago, mcrosby said:

    I still haven't decided if I keep the Senators for the Atlanta club. The most historic name in Atlanta is Crackers, and I don't think I'll be using that. If anyone has suggestions for ATL let me know. 


    Given Atlanta's roots as a hub of rail transportation, a railroad-themed name might work well for an Atlanta team.  Locomotives, Boilers (as in the boiler of a steam locomotive), Railroaders, Engineers, Conductors, and even Crescents (for the Crescent passenger train that has run from New Orleans, through Atlanta, to various points to Atlanta's northeast since 1891) all seem like good choices to me.

  13. @OnWis97, I do not know whether the Royals combined an artificial turf infield with a grass outfield at any spring training facility in or near Fort Myers.  However, I do remember the Royals having that particular setup for at least the main field at their spring training site in the late 1980s and early 1990s -- Baseball City Stadium in Haines City, Florida (located along the stretch of Interstate 4 between Tampa and Orlando), which was originally integrated with an amusement park in a short-lived complex called Boardwalk and Baseball.  I learned of and saw this unusual configuration solely via television; in 1989, NBC aired a preseason All-Star Softball Game that was played at Baseball City Stadium's main field.


    Speaking of the late 1980s and early 1990s, ESPN devoted many Sunday evenings in the winter and spring months of those years to live college baseball games, and I have vague memories of at least one college baseball park with synthetic turf in the infield and grass in the outfield hosting at least one of those ESPN-televised games.

  14. 7 hours ago, bosrs1 said:

    After the MLBPA's response to the owners, which I totally understand and support, I'm starting to wonder if MLB won't end up playing a pseudo season with scabs in some form. 


    7 hours ago, Red Comet said:

    Seriously, this might be the big break a lot of these guys are hungering for. If they don't want to play, find people who will. 


    The only way that I can see MLB and its teams being legally able to field replacement / strike-breaking / scab players is if the MLBPA were to stage a formal strike.  In fact, I wonder if the chief reason why the current mass holdout among MLB players has not turned into a formal strike is a concern that MLB team owners could and would then retaliate by signing a bunch of strike-breaking players to contracts for this year and beyond.  Furthermore, I can see a possibility that a prolonged mass holdout by MLB players will provoke the commissioner's office and team owners to take various forms of legal action against those players and/or the MLBPA.


    Speaking of legal action, the cynic in me wonders if major North American professional team sports leagues' collective reluctance to cancel the remainders of their regular seasons (MLS, NBA, and NHL), their whole regular seasons for this year (CFL, MLB, and NFL), and their respective postseason competitions is the product of a fear of lawsuits by television partners who would then want to recoup the money that they had paid for rights to any and all games that are wiped away from the schedule.  By contrast, the lack of any significant TV revenue flowing to summer collegiate leagues in baseball and to minor pro leagues in any sport has seemed to empower such organizations to call off games and even nix whole seasons with relative ease.


    Finally, I think that we should keep different levels of tolerance of risk in mind when we notice certain sports restarting competition sooner than others.  For instance, the broad level of human physical distancing in golf would suggest in a vacuum that golf is better able to endure a pandemic than are most other sports.  However, professional golfers tend to come from wealthier backgrounds than do competitors in most other sports -- thus enabling golfers to have both (a) more money that can be saved during a typical economic downturn and, quite possibly, (b) more and better education pertaining to management of money than what the predominantly working-class competitors in such sports as mixed martial arts, boxing, or even stock car racing have seemed to enjoy in their lives -- with the end result being that most professional golfers might be in less (maybe even much less) of a hurry to resume competition than their peers in more danger-laden realms like MMA, boxing, or stock car racing.  Also, pro golfers may well be unusually averse to risks to health and safety when compared to most other sports figures; for example, 27 eligible competitors (21 men and six women) boycotted the golf tournaments at the 2016 Summer Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro because of a fear of succumbing to a Zika virus outbreak that had been afflicting people throughout Brazil (both residents and visitors) for several months when the Games began.

  15. 2 hours ago, disman00911 said:

    Astrodome in Grass (and dirt infield) (1965) - This stadium is why artificial turf was created in the first place.  Players were blinded by the glass roof and grass died from the lack of sunlight.  Still strange to realize that the Astrodome had grass.


    From all that I have read, the many rectangular plastic panels that lined the Astrodome's roof were originally transparent and let in enough sunlight to enable grass to thrive inside the stadium.  Unfortunately, that transparency also caused lots of glare that was tough on players' eyes and particularly hampered their ability to track batted balls.  A short time after the Astrodome began to be used for baseball games, all of those panels on the roof received a coat of paint.  The paint job put an end to sunlight-induced glare inside the Astrodome, but also caused the grass to die from starvation of sunlight, thus necessitating the development of an artificial playing surface for that stadium.

  16. Regarding the White Sox set, as much as I love the creation of a sock shape in the main logo's negative space, I would look for a way to make the "O" in that emblem look more symmetrical and less like a "D".


    As for the Cubs set, I would have the "UBS" in the main logo be in a font that is much less ornate and has a style that is more compatible with the round sans-serif "C".  Also, I would use the same version of the main logo in both the home and away uniforms; as things stand now, it seems that the away uni is utilizing the current real-world Cubs emblem while the home uni features the altered design for that symbol.  With that said, I am definitely glad that the bear-with-a-bat has been incorporated into one of those unis.


    When it comes to both of the Chicago teams, I love how stylish the Home Plate uniforms are; both designs fit those teams' respective histories, cultures, and images quite well.  In the meantime, I would try to make the Tradition unis more distinct from one another.

  17. On 5/17/2020 at 9:18 AM, nelroy78 said:


    An alternate history based on if the St. Louis Browns had moved to Los Angeles in the early 1940s.


    —The A’s move to San Francisco

    —The Dodgers move to Dallas

    —The Giants move to Minnesota

    —The Astros are in the AL from the start as an expansion team

    —Baltimore Orioles are AL expansion team in 1961

    —California Angels are NL expansion team instead of AL in 1961

    —Mets lose 1969 World Series to LA Browns (my favorite)

    —The Senators move to Atlanta (we would have won 1987 and 1991 World Series...over the Braves in 1991, oh the irony)

    —The Milwaukee Braves stay in Milwaukee

    —The Seattle Pilots never move, but the original San Diego Padres (wearing blue and red instead of brown and orange) do move to Washington to become the Stars in 1974 as what almost happened in real life, and the Padres are reborn in the Mariners’ spot in the AL in 1977


    If, in this alternate timeline, (a) Clark Griffith died at more or less the same moment in time as in our history and still left the Washington Senators to his nephew, Calvin Griffith, and (b) Calvin still retained ownership of that team for at least two decades, then I think that the younger Griffith would have been very unwilling either to relocate the Senators to Atlanta at any point in his ownership or to wait until 1966 to move the team anywhere far away from Washington, D.C.


    Among the things that we have come to learn about Calvin Griffith is that, on at least one occasion, he


    1. accused black people -- the predominant residents of the neighborhoods surrounding the Washington Senators' ballpark and, historically, a large percentage of the population of the whole District of Columbia -- of being generally unwilling to attend baseball games regularly, and
    2. admitted that he was thrilled that the whole state of Minnesota had presumably only a few thousand black inhabitants when the Senators became the Twins in 1961.


    Thus, in a world where the Minneapolis-St. Paul area somehow gained an MLB club before the Senators could move to that region, I think that Calvin Griffith would have passed up a city as heavily black as Atlanta -- especially if, just as in our world, the federal government had banned racial discrimination in both employment and public accommodations by the time that Atlanta had an MLB-ready stadium -- in favor of a comparably populous MLB-free area in the United States (or even in Canada) with a much higher ratio of white residents to black residents.  Specifically, Buffalo (one of the cities proposed for a team in pro baseball's stillborn Continental League, and a decidedly larger city in the late 1950s and early 1960s than today), Denver (the tentative home of another Continental League club), Toronto (where a third CL team would have played), Montréal (Calvin Griffith's hometown), and even Indianapolis and Seattle all strike me as being far more likely destinations for a Washington Senators team under his particular ownership than Atlanta.


    Finally, I cannot help but suspect that Calvin Griffith was a hardened enough racist that he would have sought to move the Senators out of Washington, D.C. as soon as possible after he inherited the team, even if Baltimore still did not have its own MLB franchise and even if neither the AL nor the NL had expanded yet.  In that case, I think that, in the early 1960s in this parallel universe, each league still adds two teams, the NL still grants a franchise to New York City to fill the void left jointly by the Giants and the Dodgers, and the AL still bestows a franchise upon Houston.  However, the NL would have had trouble deciding whether its other planned expansion club for the early Sixties would compete with the Browns for fans in Los Angeles or exploit and avenge the AL's departure from D.C.  Meanwhile, the AL would have felt a lot of pressure in the earliest part of the 60s to say no to any bid from Baltimore and instead put a new team in the District before the NL could do so.

  18. Third baseman Eddie Matthews played his MLB rookie season with the Braves in 1952, the team's final year in Boston.  Matthews kept playing for the Braves from 1953 through 1965, when they called Milwaukee home, and in 1966, the club's first year in Atlanta, before the Braves organization traded him to the Houston Astros.  He ended up being the only person who played for the Braves in all three of the metropolitan areas where they have been based.

  19. An indigenous group's territory, huh?  I guess that Dana White would then be able to save both the money needed to buy an island and the time that would have to be spent in finding a country or colony that is willing to be very lenient toward activities on a private island within its boundaries.

  20. 6 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:

    The President is having a conference call with every major sports league commissioner (and also Vince McMahon) shortly. I'd like to think it'll be "you need to be ready for a long-term suspension of play" and not "you need to get back to playing ASAP to give this country a distraction," but, well, you know.


    Here is what seems to be the initial aftermath of that discussion:



  21. On 3/27/2020 at 3:52 PM, Gothamite said:

    Initial runs are all Yankees and Phillies pinstripes.  But as production gears up, they'll start using other team materials as well.


    I wonder how long it will be before we see masks with the Cubs' royal blue pinstripes.

  22. On 3/27/2020 at 4:22 PM, JayMac said:

    I know nothing about South Carolina besides where it is on a map but this feels like this would be akin to the Braves moving to the sticks in Cobb County. 


    To me -- and to use examples from within the NFL's history -- a move of the Panthers from Charlotte proper to a nearby locale in South Carolina would be most comparable to first the Giants and then the Jets leaving not only the City of New York, but also the State of New York, to play in the northeast corner of New Jersey.