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  1. Hey @coco1997, Great series so far. I'll admit that even as a Niners fan, the modern Seahawks-Mariners set does actually look pretty nice. Their neon green color really pops as an accent color and the piping, especially on the road jersey script. Those stirrups are great. Other faves in the series: KC A's in Chiefs colors - if the Chiefs ever moved away from the arrowhead logo, I'd vote for that monogram to replace it. The all yellow set is is gorgeous. The Indians in Browns colors - I've always really liked that style of the Indians uniforms from the late 40's. That color scheme works well and gives me St. Louis Browns vibes, which I have a soft spot for. Astros in Houston Oilers colors - The Oilers are an other team I've had a soft spot for. That combo looks good on a baseball uniform. Definitely prefer the color palette on 90's set rather than the 2000's style. Padres in Chargers powder blue & yellow looks great. I really like the simplicity of the home and road unis. Gives me UCLA vibes. Tigers in Lions colors - I really like the road uni. White lettering on a road jersey is underrated. Brewers in Bucks purple and green - was never a fan of this color scheme for the actual Bucks, but that is my favorite Brewers style. Would be interesting to see that version Packers' green and gold. Diamondbacks in Suns' vibrant purple & orange - Maybe it's because it reminds me of the D-backs original colors, but I really like the more vibrant version. That blend of orange, yellow and purple embodies the desert for some reason.
  2. Oakland Oaks - the finest team featuring foliage outside of Toronto This thread has been dormant for way too long. An unplanned laptop replacement sadly lost a little work, but I'm getting back into the swing of things. That out of the way - back to the purpose of this. Onto the Pacific Coast League's East Bay entry, the Oakland Oaks. The first catalogue I ever got from Ebbets Field Flannels made me fall in love with this jacket. Overall, their oak leaf combination is just a solid set. Green is my personal favorite color, so I'm sure that swayed me a little. The contrasting green sleeves, shoulder yoke stripes, contrasting belt tunnels and button flaps - they're all little touches that seem sort of garish by modern standards, but provide a nice sampling of late 1930's jersey design. Despite all the intricacy of the details and trim, the simplicity of the chest logo and cap insignia work to add some balance. The underline on the road jersey also adds a nice parallel to the Chicago Cubs of that era. The alternate set is from 1948, a championship winning season for the Oaks that was helmed by Casey Stengel before his glory years with the Yankees. Compared to the green oak years, it's a very understated uniform. The switch to blue and red seems to be a holdover from the patriotic uniforms of the war years (and was a color palette most PCL teams adopted at some point in their history). The Olde English "O" is straightforward, timeless and works as both reference to the team's geographic location and team nickname. Not a bad counterpoint to the colorful late 30's. As always, comments and critiques welcome and appreciated. Oaks References Others in the Series Hollywood Stars San Diego Padres Sacramento Solons Oakland Oaks
  3. After I posted last week about the St. Louis Browns and their design overhaul in the late 1930's, this was the inevitable outcome. It all started by trying to recreate the diamond "B" design in that 1937 photo. That gradually turned into what the team would have looked like if they had stayed in St. Louis a little longer. I wanted to stick with a more traditional feel, so the early 60's made sense. After the diamond badge was done, I settled on the wordmark. The font gives it a sort of light-hearted feel without the impish elf. The dramatic drop shadow is meant to evoke the Browns' look from the early 40's (and in my humble opinion the best colored headspoon of all time). Some teams use birds on a bat. Others have white cleats. In my mind, that multi-colored button placket is the franchise's signature element. It made sense to me it would be retained to some degree through the generations. The monogram on the chest of the road jersey is a subtle shout-out to my hometown Giants' road jerseys of the 80's. And then there's the hats. The home version is a nod to the team's caps of the late 30's with the seam piping. The road cap is a more direct connection to one of the team's final caps before they flew to Baltimore. All in all, some modernized touches to the Browns' identity. As always, comments and critiques are appreciated. Thanks for taking a glance. Browns References
  4. @leopard88 - It's nothing too hidden or obscure, but the nine combined orange and brown stripes represent the players on a baseball team and the eight stars represent all the teams of the American League, at that time. As someone not from St. Louis, I had no clue about the Apotheosis. It dates back to the 1904 World's Fair and was the city's primary visual symbol prior to the Arch. @chcarlson23 - That's a good point on the Nordiques. And to a lesser degree the Pelicans also use it now. I guess in the modern context I've just gotten so used to it being the predominant primary logo for the Saints it's sort of hard to imagine another team making it their primary mark.
  5. @leopard88 - Yeah, I've come to really like that shield, especially after learning about the symbolism involved with the stripes, stars and Apotheosis. That combined with the jersey sets from the early 1940's featuring the logo-less caps, colored and striped headspoons and shoulder yoke stripes (coinciding with their best seasons on the field) are what really drew me to the Browns in the first place. @thebigeh - I really like the primary logo and the fauxback uniform. As people mentioned in your original thread, it's pretty jarring to see the fleur di leis associated with a team other than the New Orleans Saints, but it makes sense give its ties to the city of St. Louis. In an alternate universe, does an earlier Browns' adoption of the fleur di leis force the Saints to eventually adopt a totally different identity?
  6. @leopard88 Yeah, it made me think of a Blue Moon beer label. Maybe there's an underlying connection with brewing and therefore St. Louis (even if Blue Moon is from Colorado).
  7. I've always had an odd fascination with the old St. Louis Browns. Partially because of their historic ineptitude on the field, but mostly due to the intriguing lack of a strong visual identity. Much like their NFL counterparts, the team primarily relied on text-based logos and monograms throughout most of their history. Recently, I was browsing the book, St. Louis Browns: The Story of a Beloved Team, and came across the image below. The caption says it's from 1937 when new Browns owner Donald Barnes launched a campaign that included fan submissions to find a new logo for the team. They'd eventually settle on a pretty nice looking shield. But all the various options presented are pretty astounding, especially for that era. There's plenty of elfin options, perhaps foreshadowing the only real graphical caricature the team would officially adopt in their final years before packing up for Baltimore. Others that suggest a completely different team identity like the anchor and rope mark just above Bill DeWitt's head (man on the left), silhouette of two bears(?) on top of a ball, a griffin(?), a bulldog and something with a "Brown-Eagles" crest. Most bizarre of the bunch by far has to be the disembodied bulging arm wielding a bat. A few more options feature generalized baseball imagery. Swinging batters, balls and bats feature prominently. Personally, my favorites are the stylized "B" inside the diamond behind DeWitt, the scrawling "Brownies" wordmark between the two men and the art deco style wordmark on top of the bat in the dead center. Even the "Browns" inside the circle around the swinging batter isn't bad. It has a sort of baseball equivalence to the Cleveland Browns plain football helmet logo. Anyways, thought this was an especially interesting behind the scenes look at the design process for an underwhelming 1930's baseball team. Would a more "exciting" logo have kept the team from moving to Baltimore? No way. But it's fun to think what could have been.
  8. Thanks @coco1997. I think I prefer the blue alternate as well. As I'm looking through research photos for this series it seems as though every PCL team (Stars, Angels, Beavers, Rainiers, Mounties, Mission Reds not to mention briefer periods by the Padres and Oaks) had the majority of their best looks in some combination of red, white and blue which makes for a very bland color palette.
  9. Sacramento Solons - the team with a strange name in California's capital So first things first - the nickname. "Solons" has always stood out to me as unusual among all the original PCL teams. So what is a Solon? Derived from a prominent politician in Ancient Athens, the word has come to mean lawmaker. Fitting for the capital of the Golden State. After overcoming the confusing name though the team has an interesting uniform history. The home set is based on the 1942 vintage when the look was heavily influenced by their Major League affiliate, the St. Louis Cardinals. The belt tunnel piping and S bird patch are clear nods to the Cards. The Solons script is very basic, but the traditional cursive style is unique in itself. The Health patch is a must for a war years set. And the traditional Cardinals stirrups complete look. Also the hat's seams are in an unorthodox "X" pattern leaving the central seams under the cap logo bare. I'll briefly call out the patches. I recreated all of those from scratch. I feel like the S bird logo came out the best, followed by the capitol building and the Health patch. The Health one just seems a little off. In any case, the road set is based off of the 1947 version. Pretty straightforward an although the real Solons had transitioned from the Cardinals to Indians affiliation by this point, I decided to carry over the S bird patch. It just looked too good and gave the nickname a bit of an identity. And we introduce the capitol building patch which ties in.... The alternate blue heart jersey. I'm not 100% sure on the story behind the heart jersey look, but it's simple, clean and pretty nice. Strikes me as a good template for a Kansas City Royals alternate. Seemed like a good special occasion alternate for the Solons, mixing up the color schemes. Comments and critiques welcome as always. Solons References Others in the Series Hollywood Stars San Diego Padres Sacramento Solons Oakland Oaks
  10. @Friedrich Stuart Macbeth Just sent you a message. @coco1997 I completely agree with you. I think the bizarre color-on-color aspect is what originally caught my eye. That first go-round was simply trying to replicate this look. I did invert the color on the chest script below and it looks a lot better.
  11. San Diego Padres - the before-the-brown era for the friars Long before Petco, the Swingin' Friar and the brown-mustard unis, the original Padres were the professional proving grounds for a young Ted Williams. Lane Field, the team's original home, was right on the water and became a popular diversion for sailors on leave during World War II. And while the Padres set down roots by the harbor, their visual identity lacked some consistency. Aside from the "Padres" home script, things constantly seemed to evolve. And surprisingly their colors were mostly rooted in combinations of red, white and blue. But what caught my eye was a brief period the Pads seemed to wear black and orange. Maybe it's the Giants fan in me. For the home set, I just visually tried to replicate that good looking uni in the middle of the first reference pic. I finally think I figured out how to draw a decent tail script! The home hat was an original concoction. Kind of cool to see the simple interlocking "SD" that carried over into the majors dated back that far. The road set was based off a unique looking jersey that popped up in a few old photos. The pseudo cursive style and same colored placket was an interesting choice, but one I wanted to replicate. Some mockups show it was red, but I decided to keep the color scheme the same throughout each set. The pants, including colored belt tunnels and uniform number, are borrowed from a totally different set in that museum. The fun or Frankensteining uniforms in this series. The alternate set - I mainly just wanted to do something with that thin, upright script and the colored underline. Aside from the script the uniform is pretty basic. The hat with the large block letters and colored seams was too eye-catching not to include. I actually really like the stirrup style for that set as well. And the wordmark - it's a blend of styles, but I just equally liked both fonts too much. And the upright script felt very unique to the Padres. As always, comments and critiques appreciated and welcome. Padres References Others in the Series Hollywood Stars San Diego Padres Sacramento Solons Oakland Oaks
  12. Agreed. I'm sure the players were super excited about this publicity stunt. An insane idea, but makes me respect the women playing in skirts of the AAGPBL all the more.
  13. Since I finished up the Coastal Fog League I've been mulling over what to do next. I couldn't get out of the 1930's-50's baseball uniform mindset. It's just a fun era with a lot of bold colors and design choices. Coming out of the Great Depression and during the war years there was definitely a struggle to draw crowds, especially at the minor league level, so you can see the eye-catching and ever-changing sets were a ploy to attract fans. All this considered, the next logical series will focus on the "ultimate" version of original Pacific Coast League. Basically, I want to focus on the pre-1957 teams and come up with their best uniform sets. It's obviously going to be a subjective exercise and I'm going to try and stick mostly to elements that actually existed. There'll definitely be some combinations that span different years and "improvements," but like before I'll post the visual references. So, without further ado... Hollywood Stars (see below) San Diego Padres Sacramento Solons Oakland Oaks Hollywood Stars - a team with enough flash for the big screen We begin with the single most colorful team in the old Pacific Coast League - the Hollywood Stars. A team with a glitzy identity and a tiny ballpark literally right next door to CBS Television City could only exist in a city of celebrities. The Stars were a fun half of an inter-city rivalry with the Angels. The iconography is simple, but the devil is in the details. The first reference pic is what really drew me to the Stars for the first entry in this series, especially that road uniform. The unorthodox dark base color and contrasting white placket striping is striking. I really wish I was better at textures and shadows. Would have loved to have done a satin look like the Brooklyn Dodgers of the 40's. And I really love the "Hollywood" script (I still can't draw a good script tail). There are hints of the 50's Washington senators with the 3D jersey numbers and the one-of-a-kind star outline on the backs. And the hat just felt sort of underwhelming without an "H" inside the star. I did some guesswork with the colors for the home uniforms based off that museum exhibit image, but the lighting may have got me off track. The base color is definitely more of a cream than white. However, the shade of red seems to be somewhere between a faded red and a much more vibrant red, like the Ebbets Field Flannels version of the hat. And anything to do with the Hollywood Stars would be incomplete without including their pioneering shorts look. It was always odd to me that the shorts had pinstripes, whereas the jerseys didn't. Just an awesomely odd look overall. Feedback and critiques always welcome! Stars References
  14. @coco1997 - So I finally got around to trying out some baseball seams on the Crescents logo. I tried it a few different ways, but it wound up looking like a softball. And in the configuration below it makes me think of a balding guy with a chinstrap goatee.
  15. Ha. Thanks @coco1997 I hadn't really thought of the Mac Tonight connection, but now I can't unsee it. And your note about the baseball stitches is interesting. I might try that or combine it with the face. I like the smiling moon cuz it has a simplicity that seems to fit the era. I had a notion of trying to work the moon into the wordmark as the "C" but it looked too hokie.