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Put them in Newark and I will need to change teams

Why? Sports teams don't represent or "rep" an area, they just happen to play there. Most players don't "rep" an area either, and mos likely couldn't give a :censored: who they play for, and rightfully just want to be paid, so why change teams?

Selig caters to the big markets...LA, Boston, NY and to Milwaukee.

I know that didn't come out as you expected, but still.

Man, the Brewers must REALLY suck if one division title and one wild card is all they have to show for 20 years of a commissioner pulling strings for them.

The Brewers suck.

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This is about as bad as the time I searched admiral's avatar on Google Images.

Didn't click either one, but that's probably the same link that the admiral posted earlier in the thread. He mentioned that one was about bananas, too.

Anyway, typical Glendale. I actually know someone who tried to say that the Coyotes made money their first few years in Phoenix. If I remember correctly, some seats in America West Arena only let you see about 70% of the ice. So they were pretty much going to struggle from the start (and then fail) because there wasn't a plan to move into a hockey arena after playing a year or two at America West Arena. Team bled money then, team bleeds money now. Even in their hockey arena.

The top two tweets for Glendale are by Paul Bissonette and Bree Olson.

Anybody know of where I can find a replay of the stream?

And the recently retired Grant Hill...his lost years in Orlando, when the sight of him healthy was a rarity

Wrong ball, too.

I knew it was bad last year when the Wings tickets were normally priced — they used to double them for us, Chicago, San Jose, and a couple other teams that travel well (and also account for a majority of the transplanted population's allegiances). But 8k in attendance for game #2 is pretty pathetic.

That being said, simple logic explains the drop off from game one: it was a Wednesday night in PHX. Anyone who has lived here knows what it's like to leave work early and sit on I10 for an hour or two and get to the game halfway through the first. It sucks. Glad I like 10 minutes away for the few times I am there every season. AWA (now US Airways Center) was at least centrally located. If you live in the East Valley, it's easily 100 miles round trip and a couple hours in traffic. Not worth it to a lot of people here.

I still maintain that the only reason this is even an issue is because they moved the team to BFE. They had decent attendance when they were downtown (though the seating at AWA was pretty bad). My point illustrated:

Explain why, in the Coyotes' first season at now Jobing.com Arena, their attendance rose roughly 7% from their final America West Arena season?

That was the perfect color scheme for Edmonton.

Why.

Those colors are much more industrial than the throwback colors, which is perfect for a team called the Oilers.

The Houston/Tennessee Oilers got away with a supposedly industrial name while wearing powder blue and bright red. I'm not even sure if working on an oil rig is what comes to mind when I think "industrial." I think "auto factory" or "steel mill" before I think "oil rigs."

You guys are overanalyzing it. The Houston/Tennessee Oilers' colors and the Edmonton Oilers' navy and copper colors are good because they're just that, a good color scheme, nothing more, nothing less. Has nothing to do with industrialization or whatever, just good color schemes.

Just thought I put this here to show how I m covering this absurdity

History of the Coyotes

http://www.sportsecy...az/coyotes.html

You aren't really covering it though; just posting a link to your website for views.

I assume if they make the playoffs again in the future the Lions will just add the year to that one banner. If so, it's not the coolest thing but not terrible.

Yes, this is what they are doing. To be fair, the banners are on the other side of the stadium from the NFL championship ones. I don't know, I just don't think the playoff years are needed. It feels like they just wanted something recent and that's all they could get. Had the banners been up for years and they added 2011, I guess it would be fine. It just feels pointless.

As Jim Schwartz said last year, "There will come a time when we don't celebrate making the playoffs".

That time was the first decade of the 2000s.

Linking to a site that provides history team by team would help

Sorry Tank, but I really doubt that CC wants to link to a site that, you know, doesn't proofread.

He used to.

He linked to wikipedia?

I will add that if the Bills used the helmet from the Oh-God-help-us-not-them-again-Bills era, with their current uniforms, then their current set would be the best in Bills history.

Could the numbers from this era look any cheaper? The Champion number font has to be one of the worst ever.

Anyone know what font is used for the "Miami" script?

Dreadful Condensed (the sans serif version obviously).

Iginla looks weird in these Flames uniforms.

Those uniforms are bad. I know the yoke went all the way to the sleeve, but because the red breaks up the white (with the rest of the jersey being red of course) and there being no white after it is initially ended by the red, it looks like the yoke just ends at that intersection.

There's something kind of cozy about that west end (girls). That mezzanine doesn't seem so bad. Upper deck sightlines must've sucked, though.

I vaguely remember before the last Coyotes game at America West Arena, they said that you could only see about 70% of the rink from the upper deck on that side.

City Name Sports Team

So that would make three teams under league control if things don't work out for the Devils right? The Devils, Blues, and Coyotes. Four in the last year, with the Stars.

The argument that Gary Bettman is doing a good job gets weaker with each passing revelation.

People were arguing that Gary Bettman is doing a good job?

Who is this guy?

These are the best Canada hockey sweaters:

No they aren't. Those sweaters are so bad that they can't even be used in a game, unless every game is a clash,

Interesting. Considering they were exclusively worn against a team that also wore red and white, and no one seemed to have a problem telling the teams apart.

The posted picture turns out to be extremely misleading. Turns out the leaf is only on the front, and the proportions look way off. After seeing highlights of the Summit Series, it doesn't surprise me that these uniforms work. They did it right.

I still feel they suck, but for different reasons now.

These are the best Canada hockey sweaters:

No they aren't. Those sweaters are so bad that they can't even be used in a game, unless every game is a clash,

Edit: Nevermind, I misread the quited posts and my question was already answered.

I like the numbers in the Price jersey more, but the team needs to choose between either having the single or the double outline on the home and road, I don't like the inconsistency.

It does still bother me that people on a sports logos message board are defending the act of copyright infringement. Might as well go to a SAG forum and defense movie piracy, amirite?

That's not a very strong point. I visit this site because of my interest in sports logos and uniforms, not because of an interest in trying to root out copyright infringement. They are two totally separate issues. It's possible to enjoy sports logos and not care about copyright infringement, just like it's ok to enjoy movies via bootleg, or to enjoy beer despite the fact that it has caused deaths.

So you would be perfectly fine with some of your fellow board members having their designs ripped off, stolen or otherwise taken for monetary gain while they receive 0% of the profits, correct?

Yes, I would. Just as they would be perfectly fine with someone doing something to me. I mean honestly, if someone stole my wallet tomorrow, and I bitched about it here, would you really give a ? Because if you did, I think you seriously need to consider your priorities. We're not really "friends" - I save that for real life.

Because your wallet being stolen and people's work that they do for a living are the same exact thing. You've proved nothing in this thread. Goodbye.

What? It is the same thing. Well, same result anyway; someone took something from you to get ultimately get money.

Loogodude is right though about nobody here caring if someone stole his wallet. We live in a very individualistic society, and yeah, some of you deeply care about counterfeit goods being made, but I'm willing to bet that some of you (yes, even on a sports logos message board) don't care as much as you say you do mainly because it isn't YOUR work being stolen.

I was at the Ducks/Yotes game. It was $1 hotdog/soda/beer night.

The upper deck was actually pretty full. The problems came at each endzone and the top of the lower bowl. And honestly, besides all of the obvious that's been stated ad nauseum in each incarnation of this thread, I think a lot of if has to do with the pricing. Upper deck starts at $35 face value. I got mine for $15 dollars. Almost every upper deck ticket on StubHub and the Coyotes official ticket exchange was under that face value. Lower bowl starts at $60 or $65 I believe.

Eh, besides the Ducks sucking ass through a hose and that obnoxious Coyote howl (literally at any time it is a semi-positive result, echoed by some drunk, middle-aged woman 3-rows behind me), I had a good time. $1 beer night is a great idea. It's only 10 oz and two per person with each trip, but hey, it's $1 beer, and if you time your tv timeout runs up the stairs right, you can get your beer and be back to your seat before the trivia question is answered. And that's a great thing

EDIT to add picture of "9,124" people:

Really if this was a picture to advertise the NHL around the world, we have no hope....

Besides people are clutching onto straws, convinced that a little over 9,000 is acceptable, if any arena in the North of the US or Canada got 9,000, their would be uproar, come on sort it out Bettman!

New Jersey and Long Island are not considered to be in the northern US?

I would love it if VaTech based their uniforms on this.

I miss the Padres sand away uniforms

Those worked because VA Tech's piping separated the orange and maroon. Too bad they never tried the orange yoke on both sleeves because it would have been great.

Nobody thinks this guy is just some trolling hole that's ing with y'all?

A pair of grinders.

[picture of Theo Fleury]

[picture of some white guy]

It's not like the names of these guys should be said or anything like that. We aren't all puckheads.

I know the top one is Theo Fleury and he was much more than a grinder.

I guess that other guy is Darcy Tucker after doing a superfluous search. He had a good career.

The URL for the Tucker image includes his name, so you could have seen that when you quoted me, and saved yourself the searching.

Yeah, for Tucker's last name. How would I know it's Darcy Tucker?

http://bit.ly/lqHmra

Yes, I looked him up; I unnecessarily had to look him up.