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  1. About the only thing these uniforms may need is a thin black outline around the name and numbers on the home jersey.

    This is something that has always bugged me about their uniforms. Either use the black outline or don't use it. It drives me crazy to see the orange numbers with black outline on white jerseys yet the helmet has an orange T with no black outline on the white helmet. Make it consistent.

    Well said... If I can plainly see the orange "T" on the helmet without a black outline, why do I need a black outline to see numbers from THE SAME ORANGE on a white jersey?

    Oh, wait... I don't.

    Bad design.


  2. Well, that explains something I recall reading in the NFL book The First Fifty Years - it has a series of illustrations showing the evolution of the uniform and Bob Lilly in the new 1965 Cowboys uni is wearing shiny pants. I'll try and scan that later and also post what the caption says about the uniform materials.

    I got that book for Christmas in 1969 and still have it. B)

    Totally, off topic, but I absolutely LOVED that book growing up. I got a softcover edition for Christmas in about 1976 that included an update of the year-to-year summary through about 1975. I think it is still at my mother's house. I'll have to try to dig it up for my son (even though it started to fall apart years ago from overuse).

    Besides the information regarding the evolution of the uniform (Lenny Moore's Colts uniform being my favorite), I loved the X-and-O diagrams of key plays in historic games.

    You may now return to the discussion of shiny pants already in progress.

    AWESOME BOOK!!!! That painting of the Duluth Eskimos is friggin' unbelievable!


  3. About the only thing these uniforms may need is a thin black outline around the name and numbers on the home jersey.

    HATE the black outlines on the road, and would further hate them on the home. I'm pretty sure black isn't one of their colors, and the extra thick outline on the road looks like complete doo-doo.

    And, yes, I know they did it because the road numbers wear supposedly not legable (after, I dunno, maybe DECADES of it being no problem), BUT...

    A. I'm not buying it, and

    B. I don't care anyway. Uniforms aren't about legability, they're about looking good, dammit!


  4. The roads will definitely remind me of the Browns of the Kardiac Kids era.

    Oh and I bet they'll bust out all Orange at least once a season.

    To me, that's absolutley disgusting, the white helmet doesn't match the rest of the uniform, and they end up looking like big creamsicles.

    Hmmm... that makes no sense. If the helmet matched, they'd look like even bigger creamsicles.

    When teams wear matching pants and jerseys with non-matching helmets it looks ugly... when all three pieces match it looks twice as ugly, plus dorky, plus harry-high-school.


  5. The 60's shiney-material (this is ONE high-tech discussion) that Roger is wearing is different from the current shiney stuff... there was a definate gap of years between.

    The first time I remember noticing them on any team was when a Big Raider-fan friend of mine was crowing about how cool they looked, and I'm remebering that as being around 81 - 82.


  6. What happened to the guy who was claiming this was gonna be some huge change that made everybody scream bloody murder? Remember the "New font, white shoes, look like West Virginia, I gota friend on the team" stuff?

    Looks pretty much like last year... no change to the home, silly Adidas pipping replacing silly Nike pipping on the road.

    Not much to get excited over.


  7. I have less of a concern with the logo than with the team name. Is there a meaning to the name "Chops" that I'm not familiar with? The only definition I know of is as in "pork chop." I find it a little strange for a team to choose a name that only applies once an animal is slaughtered and dissected. And to then have the mascot be a live version of said animal, well, I find that a little creepy.

    I always thought this same thing about the Hartford Whalers. Their logo was this cute whale, but a Whaler is someone who harpoons whales, slices off their blubber, and boils it down into oil. So, maybe a better logo would be a harpoon and a boiling pot?


  8. I hear people whine about how the NFL is the No Fun League and they have stupid uniform police who fine players because the sock is too low and yet you have Chris Hovan with a clear uniform violation and then this "league" tries to get players with dreadlocks that cover their nameplate to cut them? Yeah, the NFL is the league I want to follow. I like stirrups as much as the next person, but I don't think the league should enforce a stupid rule like that. Does the length of a player's pants have anything to do with his performance on the field? I don't care where a player's pants are as long as he leads me to the World Series.

    Always seems strange to me when I read things like this on THIS board. Yes, we all know the uniform (probably!!) doesn't change how a player performs, but we don't needs to hear that here. We get told that by every other "normal" sports fan we try to talk uniforms with.

    Spoilsport.


  9. Big BIG ups for matching the helmet stripe to the pants stripe (check the old photos... they didn't used to match... and is anybody at Auburn paying attention?). As for the "Bills rip-off factor... its only do to the sleeve stripes. I'd just as soon see this exact set, except fdor plain sleeves. Same feel, no theft.

    That said... big upgrade, overall.


  10. yeah, has anybody heard anything about this? i cant believe they are making us wait so long without an official unvieling.

    With every passing day, I believe more and more that this is not the official away uniform...

    Any honest Michigan fan has to admit that this offseason has been a bad one, with all the character issues raised with thier new coach, and now the uniform transformation from traditional classics to toss-in-the-trash flavor of the month's. Bad offseason for UM and their fans.

    You hear that? Sounds like a scared Ohio $tate fan to me... :lol:

    Umm, pretty much the only disappointment this offseason was not getting Terrell Pryor (but I think most Michigan fans knew he was an O$U lock from the start). Now we have a coach that can actually recruit, we almost completely restocked our talent after all of the seniors we lost (except at QB, when we have Newsome and Beaver coming into the fold in '09). Character issues of the coach? How about a bitter West Virginia who wanted to make his departure as difficult as they can? As for the uniforms, we don't even know if these are the real things... and if they are real, then it's only a slight downgrade from last year...

    "Scared OSU fans"? Seriously? Scared of what, looking for a new rival? C'mon, you can be excited about your new coach and hoping for the best... more power to you, but I doubt any OSU fans are too worried about Michigan's prospects to beat OSU for at least a few seasons.

    I live in Detroit, and most U of M fans I know are VERY nervous about this guy (Rich Rod). This is the first time UM has stepped outside the family, and change makes everybody a little anxious. He's canceled the coaches show, messed with the #1 jersey... now these leaks of "new school" uniforms . And whether you want to admit it or not, he does have some baggage. If this all goes sour, it wouldn't be the first time a big name school took a chance on a new direction and ended up having it all go wrong (Nebraska, maybe?).

    Oh, and when your school just weasled, not one but two coaches away from another school due to the fact that UM's alumni have more jack than WV's, you might want to spread a little of those dollar signs on your own $chool. :D

    "Scared" OSU fans because Michigan is now running a system similar to Florida who beat them in the NC game 2 years ago and Illinois who beat them at home last year. And Ohio State shouldn't have an issue with Michigan this year. They have an absolutely stacked team. More than likely will go to the National Championship game. But this change from Carr to Rodriguez reminds me of a Cooper to Tressel transition....

    Yeah, so what if we got two coaches from WV because we could give them more money? At least we keep our money in the hands of our coaches and not our players... (besides the whole Fab Five affiar, but we have paid dearly for that)

    GFB wins.

    :P

    No... Ohio State wins... against Michigan, year after year after year. :D


  11. yeah, has anybody heard anything about this? i cant believe they are making us wait so long without an official unvieling.

    With every passing day, I believe more and more that this is not the official away uniform...

    Any honest Michigan fan has to admit that this offseason has been a bad one, with all the character issues raised with thier new coach, and now the uniform transformation from traditional classics to toss-in-the-trash flavor of the month's. Bad offseason for UM and their fans.

    You hear that? Sounds like a scared Ohio $tate fan to me... :lol:

    Umm, pretty much the only disappointment this offseason was not getting Terrell Pryor (but I think most Michigan fans knew he was an O$U lock from the start). Now we have a coach that can actually recruit, we almost completely restocked our talent after all of the seniors we lost (except at QB, when we have Newsome and Beaver coming into the fold in '09). Character issues of the coach? How about a bitter West Virginia who wanted to make his departure as difficult as they can? As for the uniforms, we don't even know if these are the real things... and if they are real, then it's only a slight downgrade from last year...

    "Scared OSU fans"? Seriously? Scared of what, looking for a new rival? C'mon, you can be excited about your new coach and hoping for the best... more power to you, but I doubt any OSU fans are too worried about Michigan's prospects to beat OSU for at least a few seasons.

    I live in Detroit, and most U of M fans I know are VERY nervous about this guy (Rich Rod). This is the first time UM has stepped outside the family, and change makes everybody a little anxious. He's canceled the coaches show, messed with the #1 jersey... now these leaks of "new school" uniforms . And whether you want to admit it or not, he does have some baggage. If this all goes sour, it wouldn't be the first time a big name school took a chance on a new direction and ended up having it all go wrong (Nebraska, maybe?).

    Oh, and when your school just weasled, not one but two coaches away from another school due to the fact that UM's alumni have more jack than WV's, you might want to spread a little of those dollar signs on your own $chool. :D


  12. I went to at least one Breakers game in New Orleans. Can't even remember who they played but seems to me the home team wore their blue jerseys, like this:

    bosrb.jpg

    I still have the program somewhere.

    This is one of my all-time favorite looks, head to toe. Great colors, GREAT helmet... the unbalanced look of the silver pants with a white helmet (reminded me of when the chargers wore gold pants with a white helmet... another great look) was a terrific unexpected touch.

    Was there EVER a better designed league, top to bottom, than the USFL?

    Let me go ahead and answer... no. No there wasn't.


  13. Another "throw it back" uniform? Yawn....

    I just love organizations like the Saints, with no history of success, trotting out "classic" uniforms. What are they 'celebrating'?

    Just do a nice, semi-modern black and gold uniform, that actually matches and try and look like a 2000's caliber football team for once. Is that so hard?

    "semi-modern"? Isn't that what they do right now? The black stripeless pants with the nasty all black sox. That pretty "modern"... meaning ugly. Returning to nice uniform design has nothing to do with a history of success... it's just good taste. Or maybe they could go with something even more "modern"... gold side panels, white piping down all the jersey seams, pants stripes that curve into points... yeah, that would certainly beat that classy throwback uni.


  14. The navy pants would be a lot easier to stomach if they paired them with Columbia socks. The matching socks and pants ruin the whole thing for me. The white helmet also sticks out too much.

    This is so obvious, we shouldn't even have to say it, but let me state for the record that I completely agree with this brilliant statement.