oldschoolvikings

1 hour ago, DCarp1231 said:

I should hate this, but I don’t?

Why should you hate it?

51 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

It slightly bugs be that they couldn’t figure out how to face the jet forward on the left side of the helmet

 

Here you go...

19 minutes ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Bold and tough and rep the city. I'm excited!

The use of the word tough had the exact opposite effect on me.  

16 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Make the star on the blue helmet solid silver and it’s a decent helmet for that uniform

Yeah, design wise that works, but if you notice, the Cowboys never have the star as anything but blue with a blue offset outline.  That’s why it has that awkward final white outline.  It must be some kind of marketing consistency they stick to.  

31 minutes ago, gosioux76 said:

 

No,  what I'm saying is making this hard turn back to an old-school throwback as a full-time uniform is usually done as a course correction away from something justifiably terrible. It's like admitting you made a mistake and you had it good before. 

 

The Vikings uniforms -- in what appears to be a widely shared view, yourself excluded -- aren't anywhere near the level where a course correction would be necessary.

 

In fact, I'd argue the current uniforms were that course correction from the abhorrent 2006-2012 uniforms, and they nailed it. 

For the record, I couldn’t agree more with this last sentence.  The side panel Viking uniform was an abomination.  
 

And also, I don’t dislike the current Vikings uniforms at all.  Easily one of the best of the new designs since Nike took over.  If I made a list in my head, it would probably be top ten. Probably.   
 

But I also think modern uniform designs… even the best of them… just aren’t really meant to be “forever” uniforms. The Raiders, the Colts, the Bears, the 49ers, (like the Yankees, Dodgers, Celtics, Canadians) have uniforms that they can wear forever.  If you had a future viewing machine, and saw those teams wearing basically the same thing 50 years from now, you wouldn’t be surprised.   But the current Vikings?  As nice as it is overall, it just doesn’t feel built to last to me.  Quirky asymmetrical stripes, high concept number font.  I honestly don’t think it’s an insult to say it’s not a “forever” uniform.  And as a huge Viking fan, and crazy uniform fanatic, I want the Vikings to be in one of those classic untouchable uniforms.  
 

It’s sort of like the argument I used to make about the Padres all those years when they fought against going back to brown.  It really doesn’t even matter if it looks better.  It’s just how they’re supposed to look.  IMO the Vikings throwback is how they’re supposed to look.  Period. Of course, as my good friend @infrared41 used to say, your mileage may vary.  

Just now, gosioux76 said:

 

I'd never suggest these uniforms aren't fantastic -- they are. But I think a move like this only works if the uniforms it would be replacing are terrible. I can't say that about the current Vikings look. I don't care for the current facemask color, but that's about the only issue I have with them. They're otherwise a perfect modernization of a classic look. 

I disagree.  You would only replace a uniform if it's terrible?  That seems like a weird stance. Obviously terrible is terrible, and those uniforms need to be burned, but if a team can go from good (current Vikings) to great (throwback Vikings) as well as bringing back an iconic look from when the team was annually one of the best teams in the league (just obviously not the best team in any of their 4 Super bowls ) then you do it IMO.

To be clear, if it were up to me, I wouldn't allow even a second helmet for NFL teams. It needlessly dilutes the brands. However, if this is the new game, I guess I can play...

Just now, bowld said:

Guessing the Jags will bring back the old helmet to pair with throwback jersey. Likely a better choice than some Teal alternate

Since the old helmet was black, they can do both. Hell, starting in 2025, the can have a black, teal, AND a white helmet.

1 minute ago, BadSeed84 said:

The Doplhins should be thinking to do the same thing as the Jets.

And...

41 minutes ago, VDizzle12 said:

So how did the Jets get away with an all-black alternate uniform? As far as I can tell there's no black anywhere on the green or white set. 

Because the "rules" aren't really rules, and teams will pretty much do whatever they want.

4 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said:

I thought it was because they needlessly added black.

I think needless is pretty much the best way to put it.  I mean, even if you liked it and thought it looked good, I’m not sure anyone would say it was needed.  

31 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

Agreed. I mean paying tribute is fine for a few seasons, but the guy died 10 years ago. 

And if you live in Detroit you know he wasn’t exactly beloved as an owner.  

3 hours ago, ruttep said:

 

I refuse to give those Cardinals uniforms a single chance until they're worn in a non- monochrome manner. I don't care what each individual uniform element looks like when every element is the same color.

 
This is exactly right.  I can’t understand how so many people here can talk about some particular uniform and say “this is a really good uniform as long as they don’t….” and then say the very thing that the team has insisted on doing for every single game.  It’s like a drinking game around here.  How many times do I have to read someone saying they really like some uniform when it’s worn with contrasting socks and the team they’re talking about hasn’t worn contrasting socks since the 90’s.  
 

Bottom line is the Cardinals looked like ass in all 17 games last year.  

I like everyone lawyering through the various NFL “rules” about how alternates can or can’t be matched with non alternate pieces.  I guarantee we are giving much MUCH more thought to these “rules” than the teams will be once they start deciding what might look cool, or asking the fans or (even worse) the players what combo they should break out.  They’ll do what they want and the league will, once again, adjust the rules to fit.  
 

In case you aren’t paying attention the slope is no longer just slippery, its f’n greased and we are officially going for the ride.  

24 minutes ago, MNtwins3 said:

Unpopular opinion: I don't hate the 3 helmet rule

 

Alternate helmets can only be paired with alternate jerseys. It doesn't seem like the NFL has any intention of dropping the "3 alternate games per year" rule. So we still will only see alternate looks 3 times a year, with the primary looks still taking up 14 games a year. I think a lot of posters on here are blowing this out of proportion. The NFL is still not allowing mix-and-match with the helmets

 
Yet.  

Just now, Sec19Row53 said:

You. You predicted it.

This is true.  Remember all those people who kept posting that they were all for alternate helmets “ as long as the league limits them to throwbacks”?   
 

Cue your favorite uproarious laughter gif.  

Wait… after only one year the NFL has already watered down their alternate helmet rules.   
 

Shocking.  Who could’ve predicted it.  

2 hours ago, fouhy12 said:

 

I don't think any of these uniforms suck really bad. 

 

 

Heck, I'll even throw these in there.

 

 

I specifically said “non white”… so no, I don’t think those first three suck. 
 

However, the teal on teal most definitely suck. True, they’d suck even harder with teal socks, but still… they suck.  

3 hours ago, ManillaToad said:

 

It's not monochrome if the socks contrast the pants & jersey

Well, if you want to call it something else that’s up to you, but I think for a lot of us, saying “monochrome” is short hand for anytime the pants and jerseys are the same (non white) color… regardless of the socks.  That’s how I’ve always used the term, and will continue to do so.  
 

Put it this way… when the pants and jerseys are the same color, but the socks are a different color, the uniform sucks really bad.  And when the pants and jerseys are the same color, and so are the socks, the uniform sucks really really bad.  Not too much reason to split hairs.  

58 minutes ago, KouPilot said:

I can't seem to identify that number font they use for the date and it's the same one they used on their announcement. I'm still thinking it's the new jersey number font, hopefully a bold version of it atleast. 

Doubt it.  That’s the kind of detective nonsense we seem to indulge in every year and it pretty much never happens.  

Similar to the above, more traditional stripes...

1 hour ago, udubfan19 said:

what i meant by TEN-HOU jacked was that they were talking about "statit's" and what they are called on reddit. not a change in the NFL.

We’ll, thank goodness you fixed all that.