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LA Chargers vs. Las Vegas

Minnesota vs. Cincinnati

Pittsburgh vs. Indianapolis

Denver vs. Detroit

NY Giants vs. New Orleans

Chicago vs. Cleveland

Atlanta vs. Carolina

Tampa Bay vs. Green Bay

NY Jets vs. Miami

Kansas City vs. New England

Houston vs. Tennessee

San Francisco vs. Arizona

Washington vs. LA Rams

Dallas vs. Buffalo

Baltimore vs. Jacksonville

Philadelphia vs. Seattle

1 hour ago, ruttep said:

 

Maybe this is just pessimism from a jaded sports fan, but I can absolutely see Dallas winning that game in the right circumstances. I think they'd come into that game pissed off knowing how the last two seasons ended, and how the Niners were the only team to make Dak look truly mortal this season. I still have confidence in the Niners against anybody, but no game in the NFL is ever a guarantee (besides Joe Namath), especially in the playoffs.

The Niners and (checks notes)... the Cardinals.

4 hours ago, BBTV said:

Continuing the Eaglejack, just heard that if they get the #2 seed, which they would by them and SF winning out, then Dallas would play in SF, thereby eliminating one of them, and then if Eagles win their home games, Dallas (if they beat SF) would play the NFCCG in Philadelphia.  So while they look like one of the worst teams in the NFL right now, there's still a chance that they can get right "enough" to end up in a good spot.

 

So in this scenario, you’d have the Cowboys beating the 49ers.  In San Francisco.  In the playoffs.  While coached by Mike McCarthy.   
 

Ummm …

Refs are working hard for the Cowboys so far. 

2 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

So tell us.. How much did you enjoy it?

I was lucky... it wasn't televised here.

The Vikings and Raiders have set football back 100 years.

31 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said:

Jets offense comes back to life in the rain and with Zach Wilson at QB

And no one cares.  

For some reason, I find the fact that the Titans always use he word "britches" to be super annoying. 

And those "britches", like every other piece of their uniforms, suck.

New England vs. Pittsburgh

Houston vs. NY Jets

LA Rams vs. Baltimore

Carolina vs. New Orleans

Indianapolis vs. Cincinnati

Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta

Jacksonville vs. Cleveland

Detroit vs. Chicago

Seattle vs. San Francisco

Minnesota vs. Las Vegas

Denver vs. LA Chargers

Buffalo vs. Kansas City

Philadelphia vs. Dallas

Green Bay vs. NY Giants

Tennessee vs. Miami

25 minutes ago, tBBP said:

 

 

2.) Excepting the two LA and the two NJ NY teams, that Indy vs Cincinnati game might be the shortest road trip between teams in the league. In fact I'm pretty well confident it is since there's barely about 100 miles between Indy and Cincy. (Well, 112 if you count from downtown to downtown, but still...)

What about Commanders and Ravens?

5 minutes ago, Sport said:

 

 

Did you see where I said "Maybe Liberty should be one of the teams! You tell Texas "hey good season, but if you wanted to control your fate you blew that when you lost to Oklahoma. Good luck in the Cotton Bowl or whatever."

Yeah, I saw where you said "maybe" they should.  But I didn't see where you got indignant about Liberty's exclusion, and went on an extended discussion about why it's a travesty that teams with a worse record got in over them.  It's almost as if... I dunno... deep down you know that records don't tell the whole story.

But, honestly, I think we're all getting off the main point here.  This year's playoff is not about having the most deserving team get crowned. It's about making sure, at all costs, that team isn't Michigan. 

Cheaters.

11 minutes ago, Sport said:

 

FSU doesn't need style points when they have a better record than Alabama and Texas. I don't know why this is hard to grasp. 

It isn't hard to grasp.  They're just a lot of people (for instance, the committee who makes these decisions) who disagree with that premise. It isn't just about having a better record. And the truth is, you actually agree with that! You don't actually feel the record is all that matters, because if you did you'd be arguing just as vehemently for Liberty as you are for Florida State.  

1 hour ago, Sport said:

 

Why would he bring up Texas when they beat Alabama? In a just system their case for the four spot is solid. It goes without saying that FSU should be third and got hosed twice, but of the five schools Alabama is the team who doesn't have a case if we're going off the actual results.  

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1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

Alabama lost to Texas, so they should be sitting behind Texas. FSU should have been #3 and Texas at 4. I think that actually makes for better games without the presence of Alabama. Now, we're all expecting #19 for the Tide. 

Oh, I know why you guys aren't bringing up Texas, and it makes sense.  I was talking about why Unical wasn't bringing up Texas... because his rants are really just about hating Alabama and/or the SEC. 

1 hour ago, Sport said:

 

And actual results should matter otherwise why did we play the season?

 Then they didn't even achieve that because they're missing Georgia and OSU who are better than Washington and Texas. They're having it both ways. Is Alabama better than FSU? PROBABLY, but they lost a game and if you just go off the results then this sort of silly argumentative subjectivity doesn't enter the equation, which is why the stated mission shouldn't be to find the four best teams, it should be to find the teams who earned their way in, which Alabama didn't. If they wanted an air-tight case they shoulda beat Texas. 

But if there isn't any element of subjectivity in terms of conferences and schedules, if it really is only record on the field, why isn't Liberty the fourth team?   I think we all know the answer to that... everyone can agree that Liberty's 13 - 0 doesn't equal FSU's 13 - 0.

But if someone can subjectively decide that Liberty's 13 - 0 isn't as worthy as FSU's 13 -0,  why can't they also decide that FSU's 13 - 0 isn't as worthy as Alabama's 12 - 1?

17 minutes ago, Sport said:

 

Although I can't stick up for the unique way he chose to phrase that, I'm actually with Unocal on this one . The matter is FSU should be third ahead of both Texas and Alabama, but you have to take 4 teams so you take the 3 undefeated teams because they earned that by winning every game on their respective schedules and then you pick between Texas and Alabama. Texas beat Alabama so it's not even a question as to who should be fourth. They hold the tiebreaker. It's very clearly cramming Alabama into this that is the problem so that's where the lion's share of the ire is going. 

 

Like I said earlier, there's exactly 4 teams with a case - The 3 teams with undefeated records and the team who holds the tiebreaker over the #4 team. Alabama's case is they're Alabama and the committee said we can't have a playoff without the SEC, which are both really dumb reasons to elevate them over FSU. 

I'm not really arguing Alabama v Texas.  I'm just saying it's disingenuous for Unical to keep claiming he wants fairness for FSU, while never once bringing up one-loss Texas getting in over FSU. It's clear he just hates Alabama and the SEC.  (And trust me... I'm no fan of either of those things either, but come on...)

As for your second point... I'm sorry, I just don't see it that way.  I honestly don't think they put in Alabama just because they're Alabama, or because they had to get the SEC in there somehow. I think they put in Alabama because their stated mission is to have the four best teams, and they honestly came to the conclusion that Alabama is a better team. That Alabama's 12 and 1 record, when analyzed, was more impressive than FSU's 13 and 0 record. And the reason I believe that is because I came to the same conclusion.

I'm no fan of Alabama or the SEC, but IMHO the totality of Alabama's season makes them appear to be a better team then the totality of FSU's. Which, I think, I was what we were after.

7 hours ago, Unocal said:

By leaving FSU out, you eliminated ON THE FIELD play, control of one's own destiny. Entirely.

 

By leaving FSU out, you ruin the very integrity of college football... on the field play is done. What your basically saying, is everyone MUST join the SEC to be given the benefit of doubt. All recruits must now pick only two conferences because  they've seen a group of 13 old people behind closed doors will negate on the field play. The end result of this, is join the SEC and don't break a leg. What a great message.

 

Future opinions of hypothetical matchups matter more than on the field play. Just look at Oregon Washington.

 

But that's not good enough. Alabama MUST be shoved down our throats because of vegas oddsmakers and pointspreads.

Why are you so focused on Alabama and completely ignoring one-loss Texas getting in over FSU.  it’s really just about you hating Alabama, isn’t it?

I was pretty happy to have the SB era Buccaneers' uniform back a few years ago, but somehow, I feel like the luster has worn off a bit.  The pewter suffers quite a bit from Nike's materials, and they make dull combo choices.  Anyway, this is attempt to bring in more orange without just going back to the old creamsicles full time.

9 hours ago, Silver_Star said:

 

I am ok with the lime green jerseys if it is used properly. I say their navy blue pants look well with the lime green jerseys to be frank. I was never a fan of the lime green pants.

If the Seahawks wore the lime green jersey with white pnts, they might have something...

3 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

And they'll have a legitimate claim. If you win your conference and every other game and you're in a P5 conference, you get to be called champion.

Right.  ACC champion. 

7 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

It sucks that Florida State got screwed but I can't lie, I'm looking forward to Alabama curb stomping Michigan.

I gotta admit my entire focus this whole weekend is trying to figure out what throws the most obstacles up in the way of Michigan.  

IMO (which, sure, means basically nothing) not only would Florida State lose to any of the other conference champions, they’d probably also lose to Oregon, and Ohio  State.  And Georgia would smash them.

If the committee puts FSU in they probably have to stop talking about how it’s about the best teams and not about “earning “ it.  

It should be;

Michigan

Washington

Texas

Alabama

I have no idea if it will be, tho.  
 

Florida State is no better than the ninth or tenth best team.  IDGAF about conference championships.  

21 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

I wish the Rams and the Chargers did that when they play each other.

Blue and yellow vs blue and yellow?   Yeah, there’s a great idea. 

The only color on color match up I’m really interested in is UCLA v USC.  I don’t really understand the weird boner for color on color that some people seem to have. 

11 - 5 seems to be my absolute ceiling.

Seattle vs. Dallas

Indianapolis vs. Tennessee

Atlanta vs. NY Jets

Detroit vs. New Orleans

Denver vs. Houston

LA Chargers vs. New England

Arizona vs. Pittsburgh

Miami vs. Washington

Carolina vs. Tampa Bay

San Francisco vs. Philadelphia

Cleveland vs. LA Rams

Kansas City vs. Green Bay

Cincinnati vs. Jacksonville

26 minutes ago, Cosmic said:

For me, this goes for many kneel-downs to end a half... if you think the defense has a better chance of scoring than your offense when you have the ball, why even play the game?! If you're on your own 15 with 5 seconds left, that's one thing; if you've got a reasonable shot, might as well take it.

Unless you’re the Jets.