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  1. Well another Super Bowl is just about behind us, which means it's time to start looking ahead to next year's big game in Minneapolis. Unfortunately the NFL is continuing with their standardized design of the Super Bowl logo, so here is my concept for Super Bowl LII. I had originally posted this in the Super Bowl Shuffle Competition on these boards last year, but I have since modified some aspects of it. I altered the roman numeral style slightly, and gave the roman numerals more definition; I also altered the river flowing into lake concept at the bottom of the logo. Let me know what you guys think, and I always appreciate the feedback!
  2. Welcome to my little thought experiment. This idea has been used on this forum before. It is the swapping of logos/history of NFL teams. For this project, I limited myself to a few guidelines. 1. The starting point is 1960. As I saw this as the first year as a whole that logos really began appearing on helmets. 2. I would limit myself to just helmets. 3. When matching up colors between teams, darker colors should substitute for darker colors, brighter for brighter, etc. 4. Black, grey, or silver can be used to outline a logo even if it's not part of the team colors (the KC rule). 5. Clip art was to be avoided, but if possible I would try to incorporate elements of existing team logos. 6. When swapping logos, try to avoid the same type. For example, the Cardinals is a head logo. So, I shouldn't use the Panthers as their replacement. However, there were a few times when I did have to ignore this guideline. 7. I tried to keep the "new" history somewhat plausible. It is possible that couple of choices are questionable, but I think I can justify them. As part of the history, I switched up the AFL and NFL names. The revised logos are below. Team colors were taken Colorwerx's website. While I used MG's Helmets and Gridiron Uniforms for guides to things such as logo size and helmet/facemask colors. As to not to spam the thread, I plan to only post 4 teams a day. They will be presented in alphabetical order. Please enjoy and any C&C is appreciated. Also if anyone wants the helmet template, I do have it available as a GIMP file (xcf). ARIZONA CARDINALS [as the Cleveland Browns] ATLANTA FALCONS [as the Philadelphia Eagles] (Version 2) (Version 3) BALTIMORE RAVENS [as the Houston Texans] BUFFALO BILLS [as the Denver Broncos] CAROLINA PANTHERS [as the Los Angeles Chargers] CHICAGO BEARS [as the Detroit Lions] CINCINNATI BENGALS [as the Arizona Cardinals] CLEVELAND BROWNS [as the Atlanta Falcons] DALLAS COWBOYS [as the Seattle Seahawks] DENVER BRONCOS [as the San Francisco 49ers] DETROIT LIONS [as the Pittsburgh Steelers] GREEN BAY PACKERS [as the New York Giants] HOUSTON TEXANS [as the Tennessee Titans] (Versions 2 & 3) INDIANAPOLIS COLTS [as the Carolina Panthers] JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS [as the Cincinnati Bengals] KANSAS CITY CHIEFS [as the New York Jets] LOS ANGELES CHARGERS [as the Los Angeles Rams] LOS ANGELES RAMS [as the Baltimore Ravens] MIAMI DOLPHINS [as the New England Patriots] MINNESOTA VIKINGS [as the Washington Redskins] NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS [as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers] NEW ORLEANS SAINTS [as the Minnesota Vikings] NEW YORK GIANTS [as the Chicago Bears] NEW YORK JETS [as the Buffalo Bills] OAKLAND RAIDERS [as the Indianapolis Colts] PHILADELPHIA EAGLES [as the Green Bay Packers] PITTSBURGH STEELERS [as the Dallas Cowboys] SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS [as the Oakland Raiders] SEATTLE SEAHAWKS [as the Miami Dolphins] TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS [as the Jacksonville Jaguars] TENNESSEE TITANS [as the Kansas City Chiefs] WASHINGTON REDSKINS [as the New Orleans Saints]
  3. I decided that maybe if the NFL decided to expand i think San Antonio is a good choice so i made a logo and uniforms coming soon I went with the defenders obviously i took aspects of SA life and converged them into a logo CC is welcomed
  4. I've been meaning to do a series like this, exploring every uniform in the league and seeing what can be done to keep it feeling fresh in 2017 without getting too far away from the existing brand most of these teams have established. Before I kick this off, I want to explain a few of the guidelines I'll be following in order to make sure the concepts I'm creating are as realistic and feasible as possible. 1. The one helmet rule is staying in-tact as it would in the NFL. Decals can change but shell must remain. 2. No complete rebrands. Reasonable color changes allowed but no name changes, new logo marks, or colors that have not been used before. 3. No throwbacks will be included. Assume any throwbacks that are currently in rotation for teams are still at their disposal. Expect no drastic changes to many teams, this is simply an league-wide cleanup to remove some of the clutter and unnecessary elements of existing uniforms to extend their life expectancy. For certain teams who's uniforms would be better off starting from scratch, I'll be adopting some of their more favorable looks from the past, and bringing them to 2017. With that said, let's get started. Arizona CardinalsAtlanta FalconsBaltimore RavensBuffalo BillsCarolina PanthersChicago BearsCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsDallas CowboysDenver BroncosDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersHouston TexansIndianapolis ColtsJacksonville JaguarsKansas City ChiefsMiami DolphinsMinnesota VikingsNew England PatriotsNew Orleans SaintsNew York GiantsNew York JetsOakland RaidersPhiladelphia EaglesPittsburgh SteelersSan Diego ChargersSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksSt. Louis RamsTampa Bay BuccaneersTennessee TitansWashington Redskins
  5. I've been wanting to do one of these things for a while, and CBSSports posting something that sorta, kinda, not really resembled a "why your team won't win" article was enough of an inspiration to finally go through with it. So here we go, reasons why your team, whatever it is, won't win Super Bowl LII. Yes, taken to the logical conclusion, that would mean nobody will win the Super Bowl. And yes, it makes no sense. One Final Disclosure: This thread makes fun of/trashes every team. Please don't get angry. It's not meant to be taken least, too seriously. Arizona Cardinals: They're more inconsistent than the tone of a Nationwide Super Bowl commercial. Carson Palmer misplaced his "how to play quarterback" handbook for a "how to turn the ball over" guide last offseason (seriously, how does a QB fumble 14 times in a single year?), and chances are he isn't going to suddenly remember how to throw the ball at age 38. Adding to the misery? This is likely going to largely be the same team that got blown out by the Buffalo Bills. Atlanta Falcons: This team will actually do quite well for a Super Bowl loser. They'll be ahead by 28 points in the NFC title game again, and then Dan Quinn will have PTSD flashbacks of blowing two Super Bowls to the Patriots. He'll promptly order his team to punt the ball out of their own end zone every drive for the rest of the game and they'll lose in OT. Julio Jones' amazing catch involving a 20 foot somersaulting leap into the air will promptly be forgotten as the Department of Health and Human Services changes the universal choking sign to a Falcons' logo. Baltimore Ravens: John Harbaugh will once again forget to field a defensive line and Joe Flacco will continue to randomly forget which players are on his team and which ones are playing defense. Despite that, the Ravens will still be in the lead until they allow late touchdown passes to lose every single game and finish 0-16. John Harbaugh takes a job at University of Maryland and then proceeds to beat his brother in next year's Big 10 Championship game. Buffalo Bills: Terry Pegula will continue to have less and less patience for coaches. He'll fire Sean McDermott after they start 1-3, and then he'll fire the interim after he loses the next game, and he'll fire the guy after that when the Bills go down by a touchdown the game after. Eventually, Stephon Gilmore will just continued to exasperatedly look around for someone to blame as Chris Hogan burns him for five dozen touchdowns in a 121-0 Patriots' victory that finally causes Pegula to snap and appoint a drunken fan as head coach. The team will actually respond by playing better but still miss the playoffs. Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton will continue to suffer war flashbacks to Super Bowl 50 and begin hallucinating Von Miller sacking him. With the offense producing as consistently as Mets' relief pitching in the postseason, the defense will struggle to keep the team afloat in a division featuring Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, and Jameis Winston. Carolina will miss the playoffs, and the referees continued refusal to call any personal foul penalties for late hits on Newton will lead Jerry Richardson to finally remove the dumb NFL shield from midfield. The one good thing to come from the season, I suppose. Chicago Bears: After ignoring desperate pleas from Kansas City's draft room that reports claimed sounded vaguely like "Don't forget Matt Cassel...," Chicago will give up its first and second round pick to acquire Jimmy Garoppolo and hail him as the quarterback of the future. They will then promptly realize that the rest of their team still sucks and go 3-13 again. Cincinnati Bengals: I honestly don't even need to explain why this team won't win the Super Bowl. I could just show highlights of literally any Bengals' playoff game over the past decade and it would do a better job than I ever could. Vontaze Burfict will probably punch Roger Goodell in the mouth or something and get the entire defense ejected for the rest of the season. Don't worry, Marvin Lewis will still keep his job. Cleveland Browns: I just...ugh. They're awful. That's why. For further explanation, consult this. Dallas Cowboys: The defense will still give up 30+ points to any good QB they meet in the playoffs. Jerry Jones will interrupt a MVP caliber season by Dak Prescott to suddenly trade back for Tony Romo and give him the starting job again. The offense somehow plays reasonably well until the playoffs when Romo breaks his collarbone on the first snap of the game and Prescott is too rusty to dig them out of the hole. More realistically, yeah, that defense is so bad that even Ezekiel Elliot can't save it. Denver Broncos: John Elway has been congratulated on the job he's done at GM, but keep in mind this is the guy whose long term plan was Brock Osweiler at QB before Bill O'Brien suffered a near fatal head injury and decided he was worth $72 million. Denver still has no QB, and even if they get Tony Romo, the defense is no longer good enough to carry some aging quarterback's zombiefied corpse to another Super Bowl. I do look forward to the new team slogan though. "Denver: The Quarterback Retirement Home of the NFL." Detroit Lions: Hard to give a reason here that isn't incredibly obvious. It's Detroit. If they have a lead, they will blow it. If they have expectations, they will exceed them, and then promptly let you down as soon as you get your hopes up. Whatever is needed for them to disappoint their fans, it will happen. Forget the Falcons, this team will probably blow a 100-0 lead as soon as they finally reach a Super Bowl. Green Bay Packers: Everyone will forget to tell Ted Thompson that teams aren't allowed to play all time offense in the NFL, and he'll entirely forget about the defense for another year. They'll probably suck for half the season before Aaron Rodgers gets bored and decides to start playing well again, and then they'll make a playoff run before losing in another road playoff game because he didn't have enough help (or because Mike McCarthy decided to kick 5 field goals again). Ho hum. Houston Texans: Easy. They've got Brock "5 Yards Per Attempt" Osweiler at QB. Their defense is incredible, but the entire offense is still a dumpster fire and Bill O' Brien now somehow has to excuse the ridiculous contract they gave to that guy. Whatever. They'll probably still win the AFC South and then get curb stomped in their first playoff game against a team that isn't starting a third string quarterback. Indianapolis Colts: Everything that isn't Andrew Luck on this team is terrible. They finally got rid of Ryan Grigson (how did that take this long), but the team is still a good offensive line, defensive line, secondary, lineback corps, RB...ok, a good everything away from serious competition. And even if they do reach the playoffs, they won't go anywhere because their head coach calls plays like this. Jacksonville Jaguars: They won't win the Super Bowl because their coaching staff is the one that decided to draft Blaine Gabbert over JJ Watt. That's all you need to know. Kansas City Chiefs: These guys haven't made it past the divisional round in 24 years. On paper, this team looks more than capable of a deep playoff run. But the head coach is Andy "How does I clock management?" Reid, and the offense is still mediocre at best. One of those two will guarantee that these guys don't win the Super Bowl. Los Angeles Chargers: Not gonna lie, I initially forgot to put this team up here due to the city switch. This team sucks. Phillip Rivers should demand some kind of refund on his contract. The Chargers lost to the Browns; that probably curses them to like 5 0-16 seasons in a row. More to the point, the offensive line can't protect Rivers and his receivers keep getting injured. Also, the AFC West is brutal now. A last place finish in a stupid 30,000 seat soccer stadium is exactly what Dean Spanos deserves. Los Angeles Rams: I wonder if the miniscule crowds at Los Angeles last year made Stan Kroenke realize that the reason no one was showing up to Rams' games in St. Louis wasn't because St. Louis isn't a good place for football, it's because the Rams are absolutely terrible. The offense is dreadful, Jared Goff is probably a bust, they don't have a first round pick to give Goff anyone to throw to. Miami Dolphins: Congrats! You made the playoffs for the first time since 2008. And you promptly got blown in the Wild Card round...just like you did in 2008. Now enjoy having the tougher schedule that comes as a result of finishing higher and getting your teeth kicked in just like 2009. Even if the offense somehow still plays well, that awful defense will guarantee they get nowhere significant. Minnesota Vikings: When you start 5-0 and still miss the playoffs (and people write hilarious articles like these ones), you know there's genuine issues. Yeah, they had injuries. But they still won their first five games, and then completely collapsed. We have no idea who will play QB, and I'm not sure it matters. The offensive line is horrendous and neither Teddy Bridgewater or Sam Bradford has the talent to make up for it. Oh, and they're hosting the Super Bowl as well, so they're cursed. New England Patriots: After winning two Super Bowls in three years, Bill Belichick will get cocky like he did in 2005 and try to see how many star players he can get rid of and still win the Super Bowl. After Rob Gronkowski's liver fails and Julian Edelman gets shot while pretending to be a policeman again, the Patriots will have to bring back Reche Caldwell, who will promptly drop 5 potential touchdowns in the AFC Championship and cost New England a repeat. Or maybe Denver will just kick the out of Tom Brady in the playoffs again. New Orleans Saints: The Saints will continue to waste Drew Brees career by fielding a high school defense. Seriously, the only reason this guy has as many passing yards as he does is because he's having to throw 70 times a game just to try and keep up with the other team. I can't believe I'm saying this, but a defense has actually gotten worse without Rob Ryan. Anyway, that's the reason why they're not winning the Super Bowl. Kind of a shame, too, I liked their gold end zone in Super Bowl 44. New York Giants: The devil appears to have finally called the deal he made with Eli in 2007, so this team is going absolutely nowhere. Odell Beckham Jr will make another couple ridiculous catches, pick a few fights with Josh Norman and/or a kicking net, and set the record for excessive celebration penalties. Meanwhile, the defense isn't enough to bail the turnover machine that is 36 year old Eli out, and the schedule's a lot harder this time around, so get ready for the usual transition back to mediocrity that always accompanies each playoff appearance from this team. New York Jets: Keep in mind this team openly taunted the Patriots about signing Darelle Revis from them in 2015. That should be all you need to know, but in case it isn't, the Jets have no quarterback, one of the league's oldest rosters, a suddenly hole riddled secondary, a question mark of an offensive line, and, more importantly, they're cursed by Tim Tebow. They brought Tebow in only to have him sit behind Mark Sanchez the whole year. They haven't made the playoffs since. Can't fight divine intervention. Oakland Raiders: The return of Derek Carr should be enough to distract everyone from the fact that this defense is absolute garbage until the divisional round of the playoffs. And while we're on the subject of divine intervention, chances are the Raiders will be struck down for Mark Davis being such a tool about relocating the team. Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz played well for just long enough to get Eagles' fans hopes up before the team spectacularly let them down once again. The Eagles truly are the Lions of the East. This team has no leadership, the secondary is horrible, and the team always makes big moves whenever things go the slightest bit wrong in an attempt to remain relevance. Howie Roseman probably cuts the whole team and brings in 53 free agents to play. Philadelphia isn't winning the Super Bowl because they can't draft, they can't develop players, and the talent just isn't on this team. Pittsburgh Steelers: Provided that half the offense isn't suspended for smoking pot again, this team is going nowhere because Mike Tomlin suddenly forgets what press coverage is whenever he plays the Patriots. The Steelers made Chris Hogan look like a Pro Bowler. That defense is awful and their gameplans are even worse, and neither is improving anytime soon. San Francisco 49ers: Boy, firing Jim Harbaugh sure looks like a bad idea now, huh? There is literally no position on this team that is NFL ready. John Lynch has a heck of a job ahead of him, trying to fix just about everything with this team. Maybe the first thing on the list should be fixing that terrible grass at their stadium. Seattle Seahawks: Russell Wilson will probably miss a playoff team meeting after sleep through his alarm because he was up late watching 50 Shades of Grey again. Meanwhile, Seattle's offense is finding out that life is really tough without Marshawn Lynch...or anyone vaguely resembling a running back. Defense will be good enough to get them through the regular season just in time to get pasted in their first road playoff game. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: This team has a ton of free agents: Vincent Jackson, William Gholston, Chris Conte, Bradley McDougald, so expect next year's team to look much different from this year's "almost good enough to make the playoffs" squad. The Bucs have maybe two quality receivers for Winston to throw to without Jackson, so this offense isn't doing anything. Tough to make the playoffs when you've got the worst offense in your division. Tennessee Titans: I don't understand why everyone is so excited for this team. Yeah, 9-7 is great, but you lost a must win game against Jacksonville (and Mariota was injured long after that game got out of hand). This team subsists off the fact that they get to play in the AFC South. They don't excel at anything (other than causing Andy Reid to make more dumb decisions). Even if they make the playoffs, they're one and done. Washington Redskins: They're still cursed by the 80 year old woman that Dan Snyder tried to sue. On a more serious note, this team talks the most trash I have ever seen from such a consistently mediocre team. These are the guys that bragged about winning their division with a 9-7 record. Washington has an average offense, a decent defense, and maybe just enough talent to keep Dallas from sweeping them this year again.
  6. My concept for an athlete log like Lebron, Chris Paul, RG3, etc... I think I have a good start, want to get some feedback on it. Put it in the Cardinals colors, cause well, we need him haha.
  7. One (of my many) uniform pet-peeves is match-ups involving mixed throwback uniforms -- or even worse -- a throwback vs. current era match-up. I love that baseball is more apt to get both teams in era-appropriate throwbacks -- and to some extent the NFL in 1994 (NFL 75th) and 2009 (AFL 50th) seasons. But, the NFL and NBA have had some horrible mix-matched match-ups. I thought it would fun to find some of the worst ...
  8. With the NFL regular season coming to a close, it's just about time for the post season to begin. This thread is for the discussion of the playoffs and the teams in them, as well as discussion for who will eventually participate in the league's 51st Super Bowl. Here are the list of teams in the post season: AFC New England Kansas City Pittsburgh Houston Oakland Miami NFC Dallas Atlanta Seattle Green Bay New York Giants Detroit
  9. I have considering doing this for some time. I hope to do most if not the entire league. I don't really have a set schedule that I will stick to. Will be sticking to the the one helmet rule. So, lets lead off with the NFC Champions. Atlanta Falcons Throwback inspired design. Added the current logo the sleeve, only one pants option (didn't find other combinations that I liked). Red helmet returns (which I hope really happens in the near future).
  10. Before I'm away for the weekend, I thought I'd leave you with this new design and a few thoughts. I was recently inspired to draw-up a falcon image and while working it out I chose to think metacognitively about my process. What follows are a list of some of the thoughts that were........thunk. 1. Lets see what a falcon looks like Search for falcon images 2. Falcons have big eyes and a small beak compared to eagles and hawks, that's a distiguishing feature Draw out the shape of a basic falcon head 3. An angled pose would be most dynamic Search falcon in stoop or stooping falcon stooping is a funny word Add more slant to composition 4. They almost have an innocent look to them 5. Try to keep some of the innocent look 6. I wanna keep that ring around the eye, that's a distiguishing feature 7. Since the eye doesn't have much anger, what makes them scary? They are FAST..... lightning shapes They have a black colored eye... no yellow in the eye itself like hawks and eagles, that's a distiguishing feature Search falcon screeching 8. Erase closed beak, draw in open mouth 9. Keep dark portion of beak, that's a distiguishing feature 10. Work in the dark shape in the feather colors on the face 11. Huh, that doesn't look half bad References used:
  11. Though the Hall of Fame game between the Packers and the Colts is still a month and a half away, I thought I'd take the initiative to fire up the uniform match-up combos thread for the upcoming 2016 season. For starters, we have one confirmation: The Steelers will wear their "bumblebee prison" throwbacks for one game — vs. the Jets in Week 5 (October 9)...
  12. So this is my redesign for the Chargers. It's based on a guiding principle that the curved bolts and powder blue are so much a part of San Diego Charger history that they ought to stay in San Diego. Blame it on the local movers who refused to help them load their stuff. So instead, I've employed straight bolts which run on a diagonal and wrap around the back. Large numbers appear on the back on the helmet reminiscent of the helmet numbers on the original LA Chargers. Only one shade of blue, the azure from last years Color Rash. To add a touch of LA flair, the Chargers use cursive numerals like UCLA. The pants are white at home and blue on the road for non-divisional games and gold for all in-division games. So five games in white pants, five in blue, six in gold.
  13. With the NFL regular set to begin on Thursday night, I am pleased to announce that this year's Weekly Picks contest is now open. This is my second year now running this competition, and I'm very excited to go through this again. It makes the NFL more fun. Now, that being said, there is one...small? nah, not really...change that I am thinking of implementing to this year's contest. From 2008-2011, there was a different website I was a regular member of that also contested a Weekly Picks' contest, but that site specifically played the game using the point spread. You guys obviously know what I mean by that, but I'll give the visual anyway: Carolina vs. Denver (+3) If Denver wins outright, or loses by 1-2 points, any picks for Denver would get the nod. If Carolina wins by a FG, it's a push. If Carolina wins by any more than that, Carolina picks get the nod. Now, I'll post the Week 1 schedule here with the point spread in mind (point spread effective of when I post the next week's schedule, which I'll probably try to do on Tuesday morning, but I make no promises; previously, the Thursday point spread was the standard, but that was in a pre-TNF every week world, so I'm not wait on that). If you guys are interested in playing point spread this year, I'll keep it going throughout the rest of the season. If you guys would rather play the game straight up, then ignore the point spreads and I won't post them again for following weeks' schedules. I figure I'm giving enough time for opinions to be voiced. I prefer point spread, obviously, as I feel it involves more strategy in making selections. I will respect the preference of the majority of the players, however. -- NFL Week 1: Carolina at Denver Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta Minnesota vs. Tennessee Cleveland vs. Philadelphia Cincinnati vs. NY Jets Oakland vs. New Orleans San Diego vs. Kansas City Buffalo vs. Baltimore Chicago vs. Houston Green Bay vs. Jacksonville Miami vs. Seattle NY Giants vs. Dallas Detroit vs. Indianapolis New England vs. Arizona Pittsburgh vs. Washington Los Angeles vs. San Francisco -- One rules reminder: Picks for the specific games are to be in by the kickoff of those respective games. I, ever the hypocritical cynic, do believe in the honor system with this game, though. People here have lives, things get forgotten about, sometimes a game might accidentally be forgotten to be selected out of the vast Sunday swath (though I'm hoping to amend that a bit if I post the week's schedule in advance). If a game is forgotten about, you can send a DM or send me a tweet (@KramerIndustry) and, more often than not, I will be generous enough to give credit. If Cleveland is facing New England and NE wins and you forget to make that pick, then I'll logically presume NE would've been the pick and give the nod (do they even play each other this year? Who cares). All I will ask is not to abuse this, is all. For my own convenience, I do record both wins and losses, but ultimately wins is the only category that matters.
  14. While football continues to be the most dominant sport in America, a secondary league to compliment the NFL begins to be set up. The league's games are set to be played on Wednesdays and players and easily be called up to the NFL. The league is made to accompany 30 teams. The League is now in the process of naming the teams and choosing the locations. Anyone can add a team. You can bring your own logo or I can make one for you. The teams can be in a current NFL city or a new city. All of North America. West 1. Oakland Ink 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. East 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15.
  15. I take a quick break from my soccer league(CSL concepts to begin on Monday!) to put my take on what I think Super Bowl Sunday should look like. Falcons: Same black helmet. Red jersey but with wings on the sleeves, similar to Louisville. White pants with wings on side Patriots: Same silver helmet Uniform is white version of Color Rush Silver pants with tri-stripe C&C Appreciated!
  16. Not an unpopular opinion... I hate the current uniforms worn by Tampa Bay. Another not unpopular opinion... I feel the uniforms the Bucs wore from 97 to 13 were nearly perfect, and they were stupid to move away from them, especially for the nightmare they ended up with. However, as easy as it is to say "just switch back", I don't really think that's all that feasible. There are a number of reasons why it isn't really done, primarily IMO because it would just feel like an admission that the change was a huge mistake. It was, obviously, but I don't think a franchise would be willing to swallow their pride enough to simple own up to it. Most of the examples that come to mind of a team doing an about face to a "classic" look are like the Giants, the Jets... uniforms that are truly classic in the 40 to 50 year sense. To quickly switch away from a modern uniform to a fairly recent, almost as modern uniform seems unlikely. From a marketing standpoint, I'd think it would be easier for them to sell a return of the creamsicles, as a "classic return"... which I don't believe they'd be willing to do either. However... While thinking about it, another model came to mind... that being the 2009 San Francisco 49ers. In '96, they went with their modern update, which was well received at first, but aged very poorly. The darkened red, multiple logo placements, and unnecessary black accents were very "90's" and, especially since it replaced a beloved classic, it wasn't surprising to see the 9ers move back. But they didn't move back completely... The new uniform, as much as it's thought of as a return of the old, is actually a modern update of the old that owes a bit to the 90'd look as well. It's simplified, and the 90's logo, which is in the forefront of team marketing, is held over. In that vein, here's something similar for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Take the uniform everyone loves so much... ... add a few elements from the current uniform (logos, brighter red) Put it on a more modern template (which eliminates the black collar and cuffs), go with a seemingly more classic but still unique font... And I got this; Full disclosure, I actually prefer the older logos, both on the helmet and on the sleeves, but again, my thought was a way to return to a better look without fully abandoning the new one. Thoughts?
  17. Some of you may remember me from the series I posted on here two years ago where I redesigned the entire NFL. I've decided to try my hand at it again, now that I've got two more years of experience and some new ideas. However, I'm also a lot busier than I was two years ago, so don't expect this series to be updated frequently. I'll post stuff here as I make it and make edits on the fly. With all that said, the first concept I'll post here is my version of Super Bowl LI. I have both New England and Atlanta's sets finished, but I figured I'd tease you guys by starting off with just next Sunday's uniforms. New England Patriots Atlanta Falcons
  18. We have players in the wrong uniform -- and teams in the wrong stadium. So, why not a teams in the wrong uniform thread? I'll start off with a few obvious ones ... (pretty much any Turn Ahead The Clock Jersey to be honest) What would you add to this list?
  19. Thread to discuss the upcoming Super Bowl LI between the Atlanta Falcons and New England Patriots.
  20. I love 'Color vs. Color' games. And, looking back at Super Bowl history there are a number of match ups that could have gone with such a match up. I wish the NFL allowed this to happen more often, because there are some GORGEOUS match ups. 1966: Green Bay vs. Kansas City 1969: Minnesota Vikings vs. Kansas City Chiefs 1972: Miami Dolphins vs. Washington Redskins 1977: Dallas Cowboys vs. Denver Broncos 1980: Philadelphia Eagles vs. Oakland Raiders 1981 & 1988: Cincinnati Bengals vs. San Francisco 49ers 1982: Miami Dolphins vs. Washington Redskins 1983: Los Angeles Raiders vs. Washington Redskins 1984: San Francisco 49ers vs. Miami Dolphins 1985: Chicago Bears vs. New England Patriots 1986: New York Giants vs. Denver Broncos
  21. Let me be the first to jump in with the inevitable "Here's my take on the lions" post... Not new, but I'm still happy with it.
  22. A while back we had a good turnout ranking all the then-current NFL helmets. I am interested in doing the same thing with home uniforms. I am going to include every non-special home uniform. By special I mean throwbacks, Color Rush, or any other one-off or special event uniform. So only uniforms that are reasonably available to be worn on any given home game. This means that for many teams there will only be one uniform included, some will have two, and some will have many (ex. Browns). It does not necessarily have to be a uniform that has actually been worn this season. It just needs to be one that is known to be a real option. The ranking page is now set up! Click HERE to work on your rankings. You do not necessarily have to rank all the uniforms—if you want to do only your top 10, 25, etc. you can—but ranking them all is recommended. Make sure to hit Submit when you are finished. For a helpful visual, I've created a photo grid of the uniforms in the next post. I tried to get a decent photo of each uniform. For a more normalized comparison, I highly recommend browsing the great template graphics from canzman in this thread. i will keep the poll open at least until the conference championship round weekend. I know it will take a good 30-40 minutes to do a full ranking, and I want to make sure everyone that's interested has the opportunity. Team: Helmet-Jersey-Pants Raiders: Silver-Black-Silver Patriots: Silver-Blue-Silver Ravens: Black-Purple-White Ravens: Black-Black-Black Ravens: Black-Purple-Black Texans: Navy-Navy-White Texans: Navy-Navy-Navy Texans: Navy-Red-White Chiefs: Red-Red-White Chiefs: Red-Red-Red Broncos: Navy-Navy-Navy Broncos: Navy-Orange-White Dolphins: White-Teal-White Steelers: Black-Black-Yellow Bills: White-Blue-White Titans: White-Light Blue-Navy Titans: White-Navy-White Texans: Navy-Red-Navy Colts: White-Blue-White Chargers: White-Navy-White Chargers: White-Powder-White Bengals: Orange-Orange-White Bengals: Orange-Black-White Bengals: Orange-Black-Black Jets: White-Green-White Jets: White-Green-Green Jags: Gradient-Black-Black Jags: Gradient-Turquoise-White Bengals: Orange-Orange-Black Browns: Orange-Brown-Brown Browns: Orange-Brown-Orange Browns: Orange-Brown-White Browns: Orange-Orange-Orange Browns: Orange-Orange-Brown Browns: Orange-Orange-White Cowboys: Silver-White-Seafoam Cowboys: Silver-Navy-Silver Seahawks: Navy-Navy-Navy Lions: Silver-Blue-Silver Falcons: Black-Red-White Giants: Blue-Blue-Silver Giants: Blue-Blue-White Redskins: Burgundy-Burgundy-Yellow Vikings: Purple-Purple-Purple Vikings: Purple-Purple-White Bucs: Pewter-Red-Pewter Eagles: Green-Green-White Eagles: Green-Black-Black Saints: Gold-Black-Gold Saints: Gold-Black-Black Cardinals: White-Red-White Cardinals: White-Black-White Panthers: Silver-Black-Silver Panthers: Silver-Blue-Silver Panthers: Silver-Black-Black Cardinals: White-Red-Red Packers: Yellow-Green-Yellow Rams: Navy-Navy-White Bears: Navy-Navy-White 49ers: Gold-Red-Gold Ravens: Black-Black-White Titans: White-Navy-Navy Jags: Gradient-Black-White Eagles: Green-Black-White Titans: White-Light Blue-White Rams: Navy-Navy-Navy Broncos: Navy-Navy-White 49ers: Gold-Black-Black Dolphins: White-White-White Dolphins: White-Teal-Teal Rams: Navy-White-White
  23. The year is 2030. A group of Stanford Grads decides to buy a loser NFL franchise, The Cleveland Browns. They intend to move them to Eureka California since having a few good fans is better than having 1 million awful fans like the ones in Cleveland. All of this means that the Eureka Redwoods are born. The name Redwoods comes from the vest number of redwood trees in Northern California. Them being Stanford grads (ie what that weirdo did with the Vegas Golden Knights Logo) heavily influenced the teams colors, logos, and uniforms.
  24. Full project here: The beach. The palm trees. Hollywood. America's game in the City of Angels. Los Angeles deserves an NFL team that's undoubtedly, indigenously LA. With San Diego returning to it's roots after 55 years in San Diego, they are in need of a new brand. This brand should still pay some homage to the Charger days, but with a fresh take on the identity that also embraces LA, in equilibrium. I sought to feature the LA surf, sun and celebrity culture. I think this brand better speaks to the fan base in LA, versus just slapping "Los Angeles" in front of Chargers.
  25. So I saw someone point out today that the LA Chargers logo that made its rounds today is very sloppy and the alignment on it is atrocious. So in an attempt to fix that I got carried away and ended up just making something a lot better out of it. Enjoy