Search the Community

Showing results for tags 'nhl'.

More search options

  • Search By Tags

    Type tags separated by commas.
  • Search By Author

Content Type


  • The CCSLC
    • Forum Policies and Announcements
  • Sports Logos
    • Sports Logo News
    • Sports Logo General Discussion
    • General Design
    • Concepts
  • General
    • Sports In General


There are no results to display.

Find results in...

Find results that contain...

Date Created

  • Start


Last Updated

  • Start


Filter by number of...


  • Start







Google Talk





Favourite Logos

Favourite Teams

Found 738 results

  1. I saw a thread on here by Fox and it gave me the idea to give it a try for myself. The colors might be off because I did this on Microsoft Paint and the choice of color isn't the greatest. C&C will be appreciated! Here is the best in my opinion
  2. It's a concept for if the Phoenix Coyotes become the Quebec Nordiques.
  3. Hey guys, I posted this in my hockey series thread, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to start a thread for this to get some C&C. Let me know what you guys think, and what I should change/modify. It was inspired by the 2001 ASG logo when it was in Denver
  4. I created an Oilers alternate jersey which focuses primarily on the orange rather than the blue. Please let me know what you think and what I could improve on. *For updated jersey, please scroll down to 10th post* ↓
  5. One of my favorite GIS mapping companies, Esri, created this story map, NHL: Realignment 2013, regarding the current alignment, the forthcoming realignment for the 2013-14 season, and which teams save on travel distances. The article also referenced as their source for NHL logos. Enjoy!
  6. Deserves its own thread. Well it didn't take long for Brain Burke [hilariously sic] and Hazel Mae to hook up. In the summer of 2012, Sportsnet removed her from the glass desk because she wouldn't fit, insisting that she stand while on air. The reason she wouldn't fit is that she was pregnant. She became so dishevelled looking as the summer wore on that Sportsnet sent her home while they decided how to handle the impending scandal. Scandal, you say? Well yessirr......The father could have been any number of worthy candidates, but the lucky dad is, in fact, our very own Brian Burke. So splashdown was back in December. Hazel and Burkie have been at odds as to if, how and when to release the news. Sportsnet still doesn't know what to do with her. On the other hand, new owners of the Toronto Maple Leafs in Bell Canada have little, if any, tolerance for egotistical. belligerent, sex-addicted senior executives and decided to eliminate the problem by gassing Burke.” ----- And here is the motherlode: SCHEDULE “A” 1. “NoFixedAddress” on January 12, 2013, on 2. “CamBarkerFan” on January 12, 2013, on http://hockeybroads....level-demotion. 3. “Lavy16” on January 17, 2013, on http://forums.prospo...8-Burke-is-GONE 4. “mbskidmore” on January 17, 2013, on http://www.torontogo...d.php?t=108421. 5. “Tulowd” on January 12, 2013, on 6. “Loob” on January 12, 2013, on 7. “Naggah” on January 23, 2013, on http://hfboards.hock....php?p=58166689 8. “mowerman” on January 19, 2013, on http://www.hawthorne...1&view=previous 9. “Aaronp18” on January 28, 2013, on http://www.canucksco...=157243#p157224 10. “Steve” on January 13, 2013, on 11. “KaBoomin8” on January 21, 2013, on 12. “THEzbrad” on January 17, 2013, on http://trilltimes.wo...osexual-affair/ 13. “Slobberface” on January 18, 2013, on http://www.torontoju...hp/80763-Leafs/ 14. “Poonerman” on January 18, 2013, on!!!8 15. “isolatedcircuit” on January 13, 2013, on http://isolatedcircu...being-released/ 16. “Kanada Kev” on January 17, 2013, on http://www.jambands....bc48295aaa40bd/ 17. “Ncognito” on January 13, 2013 on http://www.hockeyins...-and-galchenyuk 18. “sir psycho sexy” on January 15, 2013, on http://www.forumice....l=1#post1929808 hahaha hfboards is mentioned in there and now they're deleting anything said about this. Now I hope Brian Burke wins and sues for the damages of shutting down hfboards forever.
  7. Via this reddit submission, a fan's girlfriend's grandfather (exhale) found a chest full of pretty awesome Hartford Whalers/classic NHL stuff. Figured this community would enjoy it. Imgur link to full album Sorry for not posting more images, most of them are sideways.
  8. Hockey logo designs, especially from NHL, have been my passion since childhood. I chose some franchises, which have great logo themes, but their current stylization could be more interesting. more here: http://www.behance.n...-part-1/8013305 I appreciate any constructive feedback, I want to hear some words from people, who have also passion in this stuff Feel free to share these concepts, you can also contact me, if you´re interested in my work.
  9. Hello everybody! With the recent rumors going around that Quebec City, either by relocation of the Phoenix Coyotes or by expansion, will have a hockey team next year, I decided to pull out and post a concept that I made for the Nordiques a while back (it was actually part of my "What If?: NHL Style" project, that was a train wreck). I attempted to take pieces from the old Nords logo, and make a logo that would be acceptable in todays NHL. Please leave some C&C! This is not just my thread, though. If you would like to post your Nordiques concepts, go ahead! I plan on making jerseys sooner or later with this logo, but if you would like to make jerseys with the logo, be my guest! I would love to see how some of you think this logo should look on a jersey! All and all, please leave some C&C on my logo, and I can't wait to see what some of you have come up with for the Nords! Thanks for reading!
  10. With the Islanders moving to Brooklyn soon, I decided to give them a slightly new look adding the Brooklyn bridge and bringing back the victory stripes. The third/winter classic jersey is based on the Brooklyn Americans. c/c?
  11. A few weeks ago I did a time-lapse of a Whalers concept. I had a really fun time doing it so I made another. This time, I made an alternate jersey for San Jose. I personally love sublimated patterns on hockey jerseys, so this jersey is right up my alley. I also think the sublimated pattern looks like shark teeth. Which was totally not intended! Tell me whatcha' think.
  12. Hi, this isn't much of a change, which Detroit obviously shouldn't change, but I simply cleaned up the logo. I know that the logo shouldn't be tampered with but this is a concept forum. So please let me know what you think. (I've posted the current Red Wings logo for you to compare the difference)
  13. I felt this should be a dedicated thread rather than losing it in the lockout megathread. I picked up The Instigator last week and enjoyed it thoroughly. I highly recommend it to anyone here who's been following our hockey threads. What's great about it is that a lot of it is stuff we already knew, or thought we already knew. This sounds like it would be useless at first glance, but there's a strange sort of joy that comes from seeing our various rumors and postulations more or less confirmed, printed on real, tangible paper. Here are a few quick hits I wanted to share, more will come to me. I should've written them all down on a notepad, but instead I just underlined them on the pages. Stupid. Onward: Bruce McNall may be even more of a villain than we give him credit for, and we've given him a very good deal of credit as it is. During the league's search to replace John Ziegler, McNall took it upon himself to make David Stern a huge job offer, which Stern declined (well duh), but not without pointing him in the direction of Gary Bettman. Thanks. The 1993 expansion arose from the fact that McNall had greatly lied about his finances and needed a cash infusion badly. We knew about the whole racket with selling Disney and Anaheim on the NHL only to turn around and demand indemnification for Los Angeles, but it turns out that he engineered the expansion to Miami as well, when he failed to sell Wayne Huizenga a private jet but succeeded in selling him an NHL franchise (as usual when it comes to the NHL, I cannot make this math add up). He did the old "play one against the other" trick to perfection, telling Disney that Blockbuster was gonna get in on hockey instead, and vice versa, and ended up collecting a finder's fee for the Panthers as well as half the expansion fee for the Ducks. As it happens, The Mighty Ducks grossed $50MM, the price Disney paid to buy in, so at least that ends up being some tidy math. Golden quote from Huizenga here: "It wasn't that I wanted a hockey team, but the opportunity was there to get one." When a book is written about sunbelt expansion, it will be entitled It Wasn't That I Wanted This. Oh and McNall never got all the money owed to him by Disney and he went to prison for fraud. Now, technically, we can't actually say that Bruce McNall was sentenced to federal prison for subjecting the world to Gary Bettman, so let's just think of it as how they got Capone for tax evasion. So for years, the NHL was basically run out of some guy's basement. Ziegler said the league had no monthly financial statements when he took over. Ziegler gets a bum rap from a lot of people, author included, for being kind of distant and not enough of a hardliner for his bosses (sounds a little like Fay Vincent), but to me, Ziegler sounds closer to what we as fans would want in an NHL commissioner: intelligent businessman with a background in the game and a desire for good stewardship of it. It's funny that the '92 strike was such a transgression that he was fired for it almost immediately. No one even remembers the '92 strike now. Meanwhile, we've lost a season and a half and counting under Bettman, and he just keeps getting raises. Gotta laugh. Also gotta laugh at the NHL's central office, which on Ziegler's watch was adorned with little more than "pictures of horses." I hope it had paneling and a davenport, too. The NHL got this office space, surely for a song, from a stockbroker who went to prison for insider trading and left his furniture behind because it was too heavy to move. The NHL, financial malfeasance, and general inertia: together always. Given the relative hole-in-the-wall nature of the office at the time, it is to be believed that erstwhile league executive Brian Burke has a disturbingly laissez-faire attitude toward spraying his piss on the floor. There's another anecdote about the re-envisioning of the league's then-quiet nerve center wherein Burke walks into the men's room to find our hero on his hands and knees, removing wet toilet paper from the floor (ew!). Burke says to just let the janitors take care of it, prompting Bettman to get up off the floor and deliver a stern lecture on the importance of maintaining a clean bathroom for co-workers and guests. As we sit here in this lockout discussing salary clawbacks, all we have to do is look at what the Leafs are paying guys to realize that twenty years later, Gary Bettman still has to clean up the messes Brian Burke makes with his waste. I'm loath to use a moisture metaphor after that, but I gotta say, no one gives Bettman more wet kisses in this book than ol' Burkie does. You know what those are? Those are the words of a man who knows he's soon going to be fired for his gross incompetence and will have nowhere left to go but the loving embrace of Bettman's office. For obvious reasons (the whole redemption angle and the author being Canadian), Winnipeg gets the most attention of the Southbound Four. There are a few interesting nuggets about the Nordiques' relocation (the deal was in the works way longer than anyone had been letting on, though the author biffs it by saying the team was sold to "Comcast" when the name of the Denver consortium was COMSAT), but there's only mere lip service toward the North Stars (who were at one point targeted for Anaheim as well as the Bay Area, the latter we knew, the former I sure didn't), and virtually nothing is said of the Whalers' ignominious move to Raleigh by way of Greensboro. This surprises me, as I have a lot of enmity for this maneuver, and feel it looked just as bad as Winnipeg-to-Phoenix, if not worse -- it sacrificed a small American market for another small American market where people are obsessed with a sport that runs at the same time as ours. There's a whole chapter on the Jets departure and re-arrival, plus another on the fate of those old Jets. The book should practically come with a Burton Cummings promotional single. Much of this is stuff we already know, like how Bettman scuttled the local sale by inventing extra conditions that they couldn't meet, or how the Jets were ten minutes away from coming home in 2010, but it's a good refresher if nothing else. So, turns out Atlanta got its team at the behest of bean-counting Fox Sports executives, and since these were also the people behind Glow Puck and Battling Seizure Hockey Robots, you'd kind of have to figure the whole thing was doomed from the outset, wouldn't you? The author is hard on the good old Unstable Octet, saying they set an international standard for dysfunction. They'd have flipped the team in a year if not for the lockout and the Joe Johnson trade causing the whole ownership group to eat itself. The Thrashers got dicked by revenue sharing, too, as failing to hit benchmarks knocked their payout down to 50% of what it could have been. (The Coyotes get special dispensation to miss benchmarks and still get full payouts, remember.) Mark Chipman gets a lot of love everywhere for everything, but here the adoration is conspicuously focused on his discipline in keeping his mouth shut through the Coyotes situation and eventual Thrashers sale. You almost have to wonder if the author, whose culture-war allegiances are veiled but obvious, is HINT-HINTing to the almost congenitally loudmouthed Quebecois as they try to swing a deal of their own. Over on the Phoenix side, there's really nothing we haven't done to death, but like I said, there's a certain thrill in reading it on paper, and I'm sure I'll feel the same when Glenfail becomes a tome unto itself. The real breakthrough to me is that the union has now gone on the record and said what we all figured out long ago: that the Coyotes exist solely as a hedge on escalating revenues to keep cash-flush teams from having to invest more of this new big money back in their teams. This from the same league that dropped the hammer on the Devils for...yes, that's right, manipulating an arithmetic mean. The book makes some efforts, however perfunctory, to humanize its subject, touching on what a devoted family man he is and how he goes incognito to Devs games with his grandson, which is kind of cute. He had a pretty crappy childhood, too. People, especially Brian Burke, swear up and down that he's not a bad guy when you get to know him. That may be so, but it's not insignificant (stewardess? I speak Bettman) that everyone who's "not a bad guy when you get to know him" is already being a monstrous dickhole in some significant capacity. It's also made quite clear that Bettman is a fast learner and a razor-sharp legal mind, something which some of his more ineloquent detractors could stand to grasp. They could also stand to grasp that no, Bill Simmons, he wasn't sent by the NBA to take down the NHL from within (though it is telling that Stern not only turned down the NHL gig himself but wouldn't let them poach his top lieutenant, Russ Granik, either). In fact, a lot of what Bettman did had to be done: the league needed to be ready to enter the 21st century when it most clearly was not. I'm not talking about ill-advised expansion/relocation, most of which was planned by Ziegler and executed by McNall, but just, I dunno, good god, being a functional professional sports league and not just some group of rich old white men running a hockey league in their spare time, or over five-martini lunches, or whatever. All that being said, who's to say that all these necessary developments couldn't have been made by someone who wasn't Gary Bettman? I mean, yes, like I said, it's clear that he's intelligent, but how many other detail-oriented, Type-A labor lawyers are out there who could have marshaled the owners into something resembling order and done all the things that did have to be done, without all the messes that Bettman distinctly made along the way? That's the real question. You couldn't have found that guy in the skyscrapers of Toronto? or Montreal? Someone with a big brain and the requisite understanding of the game so as to avoid so many of the misfires we had with Bettman? Buying this book should be the only hockey-related spending you do during the lockout.
  14. Thought this might be a bit of fun. What is your favourtie jersey belonging to each NHL team of their 3 (or 2) versions? (home road and 3rd). You have to pick one, so you can't sit on the fence. If you had a choice to wear one for free, which one would you pick? I'll start: Anaheim Ducks - 3rd Boston Bruins - Road Buffalo Sabres - Home Calgary Flames - Home Carolina Hurricanes - Home Chicago Blackhawks - Home Colorado Avalanche - Home Columbus Blue Jackets - Home Dallas Stars - Road Detroit Red Wings - Home Edmonton Oilers - Road Florida Panthers - Home LA Kings - Home Minnesota Wild - Home Montreal Canadiens - Road Nashville Predators - Home New Jersey Devils - Home New York Islanders - Home New York Rangers - Home Ottawa Senators - Home Philaldelphia Flyers - Home Phoenix Coyotes - Home Pittsburgh Penguins - Home San Jose Sharks - 3rd St.Louis Blues - Road Tampa Bay Lightning - Road Toronto Maple Leafs - Home Vancouver Canucks - Road Washington Capitals - Home Winnipeg Jets - Home
  15. Hi, I haven't posted any concepts on this forum before so here`s my first crack at it. I simply updated the Buffalo Sabres logo by fine-tuning all of the lines. I know that the actual Sabres sword is more popular and I will get working on that soon. But in the meantime let me know what you think. (I've posted the current Sabres logo for you to compare the difference)
  16. So if the reports are to be believed the NHL is considering expanding by two teams (LOL), with one of those teams being a second team in the Greater Toronto Area (uggggg). We have plenty of threads to discuss the NHL's averse relationship with common sense. I started this thread to discuss what the second Toronto team could be called, what colours they could wear, and even what their uniforms could look like. There was an aborted plan a few years ago to set up a second Toronto team, and that proposal floated the name "Toronto Legacy" and proposed a red, black, and grey colour scheme. Toronto, prior to the establishment of the team that would become the Maple Leafs, had two other pro teams. The Toronto Tecumsehs and the Toronto Blue Shirts. The Blue Shirts, like the Leafs, were blue and white while the Tecumsehs were red and white. So what does everyone think? Are any of these names/colour schemes viable? If not what other names could they use? An idea I came up with was the Toronto Celtics (pronounced keltics). They could go with a green and white scheme that calls back to the St. Pats without pretending to be the St. Pats.
  17. I have been working on a project during my free time on what some NHL teams/markets might have looked like if it weren't for some relocations/foldings that took place between the 70's and 90's. So here is Part I: The Colorado Rockies. The Colorado Rockies were an NHL between 1976 and 1981. They were originally the Kansas City Scouts before moving to Denver in 1976, and then after many seasons of poor attendance, and bad play the team finally packed up and moved to New Jersey. The would become the Devils, and you all know what happened after that. In this project though, the Rockies never make the move to New Jersey, and they are still in Denver to this day. But what would the Rockies look like now? Would they have kept the uniforms unchanged? Who they change colors? Would they get new logos? 1976-1977 When the Rockies moved to Denver from Kansas City, the kept their colors of blue, red and yellow but changed their name and adopted a new logo that was based of the Colorado state flag. Their original uniforms were classic in style and very fitting to the era in which they were created. The white jersey was adorned with yellow/red/yellow sleeve stripes and blue pants. While the blue jersey was adorned with the same yellow/red/yellow stripes and red pants. 1977-1985 After their first season in Colorado, the Rockies decided to make a few changes to their look. The first and most obvious one, being the addition of player's names to the blue jersey. Now both home and away sets had the player's name on the back. The other not so obvious changes were the addition of a yellow/blue/yellow stripe to the bottom of the red pants legs, so that the striping would better match that of the blue pants. And they began to wear white helmets with the white jersey. This look would last them until the 1984-1985 season. 1985-1990 After the 1984-1985 season, the Rockies would make one small tweak to their look, in order to simplify things and also to save an extra penny. They would drop the red pants that were worn with the blue jersey, and start using their blue pants exclusively. 1990-1996 After the 1989-1990 season, the Rockies would make their first drastic uniform change. They would drop their jersey design that they have had since their first season in favor of a more streamlined and modern striping style. The new jerseys feature a white/yellow/red/blue stripe pattern that would hold consistent on both jerseys. The stripes would be adorned on the sleeves, hems and socks of the uniform. They also dropped the striping on the pants and now have solid blue pants with both jerseys. 1996-2007 In 1996, the Rockies would follow the direction of the Sabres, Islanders, and Capitals in completely rebranding themselves with a new logo. This logo was supposed to be a modernization of their old logo. Still based on the Colorado flag, the new logo features a red C outlined in navy blue, with a mountain inside of a yellow circle in the middle of the C. The new logo would also bring about a change in colors. All three colors (red, blue, and yellow) are darkened pretty drastically. Along with the new logo/colors, the team would adopt a new uniform with striping made to reflect mountain peaks. The blue jersey had sleeves adorned with a single red peak stripe outlined by two small yellow and white stripes. The hem would feature this same style but with multiple peaks instead of just one. The white jersey would follow the same style but with blue peak stripes outlined by two small red and yellow stripes. These jerseys would be worn for a total of 11 seasons. 2007-2009 With the introduction of the new Rebook Edge jersey system in the NHL, some looks were unable to be reproduced on the new jersey cuts. One of these designs being the Rockies mountain peak design. Because of this the Rockies are forced to adopt a new uniform. The logos and colors would remain the same. The new uniforms feature stripes that go all along the tops of the sleeves and side panel stripes. The color pattern would follow the same style as the previous set; red/yellow/white on the blue jersey, and blue/yellow/red on the white jersey. 2009-2011 In 2009, the Rockies would adopt the first third uniform in the history of the franchise. Because of all the retro craze going on during this time, the Rockies would adopt a faxback design, complete with lace-up collars, as their third jersey. This jersey was navy blue with a red/white/yellow/white/red sleeve, sock, and hem striping design. 2011-2012 With the large amount of success the third jersey had with fans, in 2011 the Rockies would decide to adopt that jersey as their full time look. They created a new matching white jersey, and retired their previous home/away jerseys. 2012-present In 2012, the Colorado Rockies would pay homage to the original 1976 team with a throwback third jersey. This jersey would feature the same design as the original blue sweater that the team wore in 1976.
  18. The Tampa Bay Lightning have never gotten it right. While their current look is probably the best they've had I feel it's still severely flawed. The look borrows heavily from two Original Six franchises, taking the Maple Leafs' blue and white colour scheme and mixing it with the Red Wings' striping pattern. The black they added at the fanbase's request looks tacked on, and isn't nearly as integrated into the uniforms as it should be. Finally, the logo just doesn't accomplish what it was designed to do. The logo was designed to be iconic. A logo in the style of the Yankees' NY or the Colts' horseshoe. Yet its skewed perspective hampers it, I think. It looks like it was run over by a steamroller. So I started with the logo. Instead of the flawed skewed primary I went with the current alternate mark. Unlike the skewed oval this logo uses a standard lightning bolt in circle design, which I felt made it an instant upgrade. The "TEAM NAME/HOCKEY CLUB" roundel portion was going to be nixed, but I kept it as the Lightning do have a history of including the team name with the primary mark. In fact I tried to make this whole set a celebration of the better parts of the Lightning's uniform and aesthetic history. The Lightning are, under their current ownership, a team trying to establish their own traditions. Like the New Jersey Devils before them they're trying to follow in the footsteps of the classic, established franchises. I tried to take that sentiment and merge it with a look that also respects the Lightning's history prior to the current ownership. The logo's been altered to include black. Black takes up half of the inner circle, and is used to outline all three lightning bolts on the crest. Likewise black's been added to the uniform. I've also changed the shade of blue. They currently use the same shade the Leafs use. I've replaced that with the more electric shade of blue used by the team from 1992-2001. Not only does this help distance the team's look from the Leafs but it also seems more fitting. A team in Florida should embrace colour. While blue and black is a perfect scheme for a team called the Lightning using the Leafs' blue with black was just a bit to dark. The striping pattern is the one used by the Lightning on their home and road sweaters from 1992-2007, sans the contrasting shoulder yokes. It's a simple but unique pattern that both homages the team's past and also helps them establish a traditional look of their own. I used a simple TB monogram as the alternate mark. The alternate serves as a sort of heritage fauxback. The sweater and socks' colours and striping come directly from the team's black set used from 1992-2007. A variation of the logo is used that replaces the black half of the inner circle with silver, a reference to the team's 1992-2007 primary logo which used a silver circle as a central design element. The number font and colouration reflects the style worn by the team when they won the Stanley Cup in 2004. All in all I tried to create a look for the Lighting that reflected the team's desire to follow in the footsteps of established teams, that honoured the team's own history, and that better reflected the team's Sunshine State locale. That's a bit much to try and cram into a single concept, but I think I did an ok job of it. What do you guys think? C&C, as always, is welcome.
  19. I'm entering this concept into the latest SportDrawn contest and would appreciate C/C. I had originally thought of doing the checkerboard design for the sleeve stripe as well, bur realised that because of its similarity to the patch, the patch would completely lose its impact. Thanks!
  20. Bmac

    Bmac Does the NHL

    I've still have a college hockey concept thread going, but I wanted to get some of my other work posted as well. I will attempt to get a concept posted for each NHL team, but we'll see how far this goes. St. Louis Blues Detroit Red Wings
  21. Started getting an idea for the New England Whalers comeback when I heard rumors that the NHL might be in a expansion year next season. The Whalers should be a shoe-in. Being from NH I would love to see them back as the old New England Whalers. Heres my dilemma, I am stumped on my color scheme. With the logo below i started on the old Hartford whalers just wont work. Any Ideas? Also the font and text Whalers are just a place holder.
  22. New here and I'm pretty much geeking out on all the awesomeness. I've seen some logo redesigns, and was wondering if anyone had ever approached a team with their redesign? anyone go there?
  23. Never mind this post. Had to take the concepts down for personal reasons. Sorry folks.
  24. I've decided to throw my rebrand hat in the ring but instead of doing all the teams, I just did all the teams could use a rebrand in my mind, so I have nine jerseys. (Anaheim, Calgary, Columbus, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Nashville, Philadelphia, Vancouver and Washington) Sadly the only resource I have is MS Paint so please try not to get to hung up on the Paint issues I have (name and number off center, white outline on logo, helmet logo not scaled, etc.) I've started out with my favourite team, the Anaheim Ducks. The jersey is based on the 2003-2006 alternate jersey. C&C welcome
  25. Ok, so I'm sure every Sens fan here, and most moderately inclined NHL fans, has heard about spezza getting back surgery, and will be out for at least two months. Of course, the worst news out of all of this is that he's on my team in my hockey pool. I kid, but this is bad news for Sens nation and the team. Questions come up like: Can Anderson keep up his good play as of late? Will Turris and Michalek produce without him? Can Latendresse step up? Will the poutine lines get any shorter? and will Zibanejad and Condra play well through the stretch? Keep in mind that this is not the only senators woe, with Lundin and Cowen missing from the blue-line. Which was perceived to be one of the leagues weakest, although they are showing otherwise. With especially good play from Methot, Benoit, and Boroweicki. [i know I didn't spell that right] All of those questions headlined above will affect Ottawa's point total as much as a healthy spezza; yes, including the poutine for fan moral. But Spezza keys in on a lot of those (he cooks right?) The sens might also need to shuffle their lines a bit, here's my taking: Greening - Turris - Michalek Alfredsson - O'Brien - Silferberg Condra - Smith - Neil Latendresse - Zibanejad - Regin I predict spezza misses 28 games, coming back on April 2nd against Boston. Ottawa goes 14-10-4 and stays in a playoff spot. What's your take or prediction on this?