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  1. First of all note: not 100% sure this topic belongs here but not sure where else it should go. Mods - if this needs to move, please move it. Looks to me like we might be faced with connecting the dots, so to speak when it comes to Minor League baseball histories. Especially now that 2021 has shuffled the deck, a lot of older history might become unconnected if not preserved. So, opening this topic in the hopes we can connect the dots and help out Chris and contribute to the site in some meaningful way. So, up first, it looks like the Columbia Fireflies (2021+ and 2016-2020) used to be the Savannah Sand Gnats (1996-2015). What I didn't know (until recently) was that the Sand Gnats used to be the Savannah Cardinals (1984-1995). Based on the information I saw, here was the chain of custody, so to speak: Savannah Cardinals (1984-1995) -- St. Louis Cardinals affiliate Savannah Sand Gnats (1996-1997) -- Los Angeles Dodgers affiliate Savannah Sand Gnats (1998-2002) -- Texas Rangers affiliate Savannah Sand Gnats (2003-2004) -- Montreal Expos affiliate Savannah Sand Gnats (2005-2006) -- Washington Nationals affiliate Savannah Sand Gnats (2007-2015) -- New York Mets affiliate --> moved to Columbia Columbia Fireflies (2016-2020) -- New York Mets affiliate Columbia Fireflies (2021+) -- Kansas City Royals affiliate Can anyone on the Savannah area (or anywhere else for that matter) confirm the above information I came across is accurate? I live in Atlanta, and don't really have the means to verify this. Baseball Reference (.com) seems to have the connection between the Savannah Cardinals and Savannah Sand Gnats, but not necessarily the Fireflies.
  2. Stumbled across this and thought it would interest y'all. Some great info in there like how 41 fans picked the name of the team and how there were 77 revisions done on the original logo. Check it out! BrandingtheMavericks.com
  3. I wasn't sure where to put all of these, so I figured I'd start a new thread of small little finds I found while browsing the 'net -- and specifically, right now -- Getty Images. Most of these are small oddities, difficult finds and what not. I was going to open this up to stuff I found in other sports, but basketball and NBA history in the 70s and 80s has recently captured my attention. Anyways ... some of my finds: GORGEOUS Color vs. Color in Baltimore against the Bullets and Warriors (also note it's Ladies Night!) Royals vs. Warriors game in Phoenix's Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. The caption says it was a 1967 pre-season game. Note Rick Barry in the old-style Warriors' jersey. He never wore these in the regular season as 'The City' jerseys were introduced on Opening Night 1967. Larry Nance wearing #6 in the half season right after he was traded to Cleveland from Phoenix. Similarly, Kevin Johnson wore #11 in Phoenix for the half season after he was traded from Cleveland to Phoenix. Interesting font and styling of Tom McMillen's name on this Hawks' jersey. Not sure why the underline? Notice the name on the back of Dave Stallworth of the Bullets. The name was pretty long so the "st" of Stallworth is white to not clash with the blue stripe.
  4. I'm not exactly sure what to call this as it's a bit different from the Unused Logos/Jersey thread. This is forgotten history about team name changes, logo rumors and relocation that never -- that kind of stuff. I bring this up for a couple of reasons and I'll illustrate my point to hopefully set the tone of the thread. I was researching the late '80s NBA expansion of Miami, Orlando, Minnesota and Charlotte and found a few interesting nuggets in this article. I knew about the Charlotte Spirit nickname as it wasn't well received, the I found the Florida Heat nickname bit interesting and pretty much forgotten without having to dig pretty far back into news archives to find the reference. Additionally there was The Athletic article yesterday about the Dallas Mavericks aborted rebranding in the late 90s before Mark Cuban bought the team and branded them with their current look. I also found a few mentions in other articles of the possibilities of the Spurs moving to Miami to accommodate both Expansion bids in Florida, since the NBA was originally set to expand only by three instead of four teams. Anyways, I'd love to discover more lost history in other sport leagues since basketball is what I know best. What do you have?
  5. Personally I think the Rams are sporting their best logo that they've ever had, (compared to their generic helmet logos and that weirdly-detailed 50-60s Ram head) although some fans dislike it due to its association with St. Louis. Their current logo still managed to look timeless and modern after 18 years...
  6. In no order, here are my Top 10: 1999 Jaguars - Lost to no one but the Titans in either the regular season or the postseason. 1998 Vikings - Points. Lots of points. 1987 Saints - Dome Patrol at their peak, but a wild-card entry because of... 1987 49ers - 13-2 but lost to Minnesota somehow. 1996 Broncos - Sadly, their playoff loss to Jacksonville was their last game before the uniform change. 1985 Dolphins - They still had a very formidable offense the year after Marino set all those records. 2011 Packers - 15-1, but when the Giants are hot you don't get in their way... 1979 Chargers - At 12-4, the best record of Fouts' career. Unlike many other Charger teams from that era, this one actually had a defense too. 1975 Cardinals - Another Coryell team that didn't produce in the playoffs. Amazingly, their 11-3 record was the worst of the NFC's division winners that season, behind the Vikings and the... 1975 Rams - 9.6 points allowed per game. Beat the Cardinals in the playoffs but got trounced by the Cowboys in the NFC title game. Bonus: 2004 Steelers - Sorry, but these guys weren't as good as their 15-1 record would seem to indicate. Honorable Mention: 1975 Vikings- Upset by Dallas in the divisional round, but they went to several other Super Bowls in the same time period. Their big thing was not being able to win the Super Bowl, rather than not being able to get there...not only are the Vikings 0-4 all-time in the Super Bowl, but they haven't even held a lead or scored a first-half Super Bowl point...ever.
  7. So I made this chart to show the expansion/logo changes of MLB teams since 1901. I know something similar to this has probably been done before. I figured I'll print this out on 2'X3' paper for myself and hang it on the wall. Just thought I'd share! If y'all have some sort of C&C let me know. I'm going to be making some other ones (different leagues, maybe cities?) over the Summer. (I know creations are typically under the Concept section but this just didn't fit.)
  8. http://www.packersnews.com/story/news/2017/04/21/packers-couldnt-take-field-without-seamstress-florence-van-sistine/99984124/ I just saw this in my Twitter feed. It's a neat article talking about the old tailoring that used to take place to get a team ready to play.
  9. 1975 SFL Teams Nordic Conference Baltic Helsinki - Uppsala - Stockholm - Gavle Svea Eskilstuna - Vasteras - Goteburg - Örebro Contintntal Conference South Malmo - Aalborg - Copenhagen - Helsingborg Norman Oslo - Paris - London - Dublin Swedish Federation of American Football (SFAF) Inaugural Season 1965 1963 In late 1963 Swedish emigrant Anders Bergström, seeing a path to AFA ownership as iffy at best, took a trip back to his hometown of Uppsala, Sweden, where he met with several Swedish First Division Soccer Club owners and hatched a plan to bring America's Football to Sweden. With a positive first meeting, A.B. returned to Northern California and sold the majority stake in his logging empire, in order to free himself of the major responsibilities of day to day operations, while maintaining a 40% share that would give his new league a rather large nest-egg, and a steady flow of income that would help the league get past the first 5 years without worrying about turning a profit. Something A.B. knew how to do, and with cooperation from the AFA offices, he would do that inside of 3 years, or so he hoped. 1964 On his second trip to Sweden, A.B., along with league lawyers met with industry leaders, as well as 10 prospective team owners in Stockholm's Olympic District. the first order of business was to create a Board of Directors who would steer the league through hits infancy. And help select the first 6 teams. The second order was naming the league, Svenska Förbundet Amerikansk Football was unanimously agreed upon, or the Swedish Federation of American Football in English. A.B. and the board made the decision to adopt AFA rules, knowing that if the league were to thrive it would need to find a way to work as a place for American football players who had talent, but weren't ready for the league to grow and develop their games. This would bring the level of Scandinavian players skills up more rapidly than an organic course of seeding and watering. The SFAF would actively recruit players cut by AFA teams and each team would be allowed 8 American players on the team. This would include Americans currently living and working in Sweden. A Supplemental Draft would be held the week after AFA rosters were finalized. To start the first Season Each team would be allowed to select 10 American players in an Expansion Draft. These 10 players would be grandfathered into the rules, and as long as they remained on the team that drafted them, the 8 player limit would be waived. As these players were cut, retired, or moved into coaching, the teams numbers would roll back to 8 American maximum. The next order of business was selecting the first six cities to be awarded teams, and suprisingly 14 cities put in bids. The criteria was simple: Size of city Historical support of local teams Appropriate facilities and existing stadium able to hold 5,000 supporters Rail service Financial Stability All but one team was supported by an existing sports club with a history in the Swedish First Division of European Football Lund beat out Malmö strictly due to the support of SAAB AB, and a guarantee of travel expenses paid for the other five teams visiting Lund. Of the 14 proposals, 2 were selected for the leagues first expansion in 1967 (those names will be announced at the 1966 Supplemental Draft. 1965 The first season began with the Uppsala Hammers and Stockholm Vikings playing in Uppsala, in front of 4,876 mostly University students and American Expats. Stockholm won the game 22-20 on a 31 yard field goal by 39 year old former Uppsala Kunig (Swedish Premier League) striker #6 Bengt Lunden. Lunden played 18 years for the Kunig, helping them win 4 Premier League titles, and becoming the all-time scoring leader in the teams history. Ironically, Lunden won the leagues first game, on the same field he dominated for nearly two decades. The season was dominated by these same two teams, and the difference was Uppsala player/coach #10 QB Billy Johnson, a doctoral student at Uppsala's Linius University. Johnson was born in Aledo, Texas in 1935, and after a standout schoolboy career in Aledo, went on to play for the Ft Worth University Bearcats, being named 2nd team All- American as a junior, and pre-season All-American as a Senior. During the 4th game of his senior year, Johnson would suffer a thought to be career ending nee injury that required surgery, and at 5'9" 178 pounds, his pro career would be put on hold for 8 years as he went into coaching, and after 6 successful seasons leading Aledo HS to the state playoffs, he was awarded a scholarship to attend Linius University and earn a Doctorate in Education. Johnson heard about the league during a class and at the prodding of his classmates went to the open tryout. After about 5 minutes he was nor only offered the QB's job, but an additional stipend to be a player coach. It was his wide open passing game that would seal the Championship 4 months later in Stockholm, and redemption for the now 30 year old Rookie QB. Soon after the first season concluded Anders Bergström and several board members flew to San Francisco to meet with the AFA... History of a Fictional Football League
  10. Hello again, I am back trying to finally complete a series, and this will hopefully be a long one. What if, when all the major leagues (except for baseball) were being created in the late 40s, someone made a soccer league? I have done that, and named it the National Soccer League. In the beginning, there will be 18 teams, with 6 the top division, 6 in the middle, and 6 in the bottom. The league will eventually be expanded to have 60 teams - 20 in each league. In the first season, there will only be one main league, and then the divisions will be separated by standings that year. The teams for the inaugural 1949 NSL will be: (Hidden in spoiler due to size) With that here is the first team! DETROIT SOCCER CLUB Home Clash All in all a very simplistic set, but this is the 1940s. The team is known as "the greens" because of their signature all-green primary look, with green from head to toe. I made the crest a simple DSC interlock in a shield. The clash kit is all white with green socks and green sleeves. I've tried to give this team a very Chelsea-like feel to it, and with that I think I succeeded. Most teams will not have regular team colors for clash, similar to European soccer, but in Detroit's case I had to go with an inverse of the home. Anyway, C&C is greatly appreciated!
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