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  1. Taking a break from my one project to do another. I drive an ‘09 Pontiac G5 and thought to myself, “What if GM never had to file for bankruptcy and shut down multiple manufacturers?” Where would they be today and how would they look? Initially I only took on Pontiac and quickly realized they probably wouldn’t have changed much. So, without further ado... Pontiac- Original- But then I thought about another GM Company, Saturn and how they would look. Saturn- Original-
  2. Since the Kraken just debuted their awesome new S logo and the Mariners already have one, let's see who can create the best S logo for the Seahawks to go along with them. Can just be for fun, but offering a bunch of free PSD mockup templates from my site to the best design as a prize. Link to Twitter post if you want to post your design there or just post in here. Really looking forward to seeing what the community comes up with! Hoping to get some good submissions and announce a winner after the weekend.
  3. post sports stuff that isn't posted on sportslogos.net
  4. I was Googling earlier this afternoon and found this prototype Phoenix Suns jersey from the early '70s. I am assuming that it was around the time they switched to their famous Western Font style. Does anyone have any info on it? It also made me interested in finding other prototype jerseys in the Big Four. I am aware of the Nordiques and a Padres jersey from the '90s. Does anyone else have any they want to share here?
  5. Hey everyone, I decided to get going with another series and look at the defunct Arena Football League which, especially back in the 90s had some really fun team identities to play with. I actually intended to do this prior to my Milwaukee Expansions Teams series but saw Wideright do his own awesome version of this idea and wanted to give that some space before bringing mine up. Some logos I had already done before seeing his work, but decided to still show my takes. To help this one stand apart despite doing a similar concept of trying to modernize older Arena Football League logos and branding, I am focusing on teams not done there (aside from those already done). I don't have a particular number of teams in mind, this could be sometime I come back to while also working on another bigger project I have in mind. I have several in the can and ready to present, but here I will start off with my take on an update for the Chicago Bruisers. On the logo I focused on thickening the lines, adding a more aggressive edge, and simplifying the color pallette while also making it pop more. The lighter blue from the Chicago flag really stands out, and in general I have it down to 3 colors + white, rather than the 5 + white in the old one. For the helmet my big thing to help this one stand out was the diagonal stripe meant to emulate the dog collar going around the player's neck. I also put the trademark Chicago flag star in the center of the helmet to help fill the negative space there. I hope you all enjoy this take! Further posts have included (in order): Chicago Bruisers Revision Toronto Phantoms + revisions Portland Forest Dragons + revisions Minnesota Fighting Pike Grand Rapids Rampage
  6. Hi All, I really would love to see the Seattle Pilots return, since the Mariners are so pitiful. I think some sure-fire ways that they could stick around this time is by 1) appealing to the whole state of Washington, not just Seattle, and b) ensuring people know that they were always meant to be BOAT pilots, not airplane pilots as most people assumed. So here is my concept logo, made entirely by me. My apologies since I'm not really good at this thing and it's been really difficult to get Illustrator working on my Windows 98 computer. But I am willing to learn!! Please give me your tips and feel free to critique as you see fit!!
  7. I wasn't sure where to put all of these, so I figured I'd start a new thread of small little finds I found while browsing the 'net -- and specifically, right now -- Getty Images. Most of these are small oddities, difficult finds and what not. I was going to open this up to stuff I found in other sports, but basketball and NBA history in the 70s and 80s has recently captured my attention. Anyways ... some of my finds: GORGEOUS Color vs. Color in Baltimore against the Bullets and Warriors (also note it's Ladies Night!) Royals vs. Warriors game in Phoenix's Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. The caption says it was a 1967 pre-season game. Note Rick Barry in the old-style Warriors' jersey. He never wore these in the regular season as 'The City' jerseys were introduced on Opening Night 1967. Larry Nance wearing #6 in the half season right after he was traded to Cleveland from Phoenix. Similarly, Kevin Johnson wore #11 in Phoenix for the half season after he was traded from Cleveland to Phoenix. Interesting font and styling of Tom McMillen's name on this Hawks' jersey. Not sure why the underline? Notice the name on the back of Dave Stallworth of the Bullets. The name was pretty long so the "st" of Stallworth is white to not clash with the blue stripe.
  8. Everyone known what the term “Black For Black’s Sake’s” is regarding sports logos and uniforms. Paul Lukas, founder of the website “Uni-Watch” and former ESPN writer, is credited for coining the term. Teams with no prior history of having black in their color scheme either adding black to their color scheme or overhauling their identify altogether with a strong emphasis on black. Many expansion teams of the 1990s were likely to add feature black in their identities. But when did the fascination with black began? It depends on the league. I’ll only focus on the four major sports (NHL, NFL, MLB, and NBA). If anyone wants to mention minor league teams, college teams (football and basketball), the CFL, and soccer teams (MLS, Premiere League, etc) down the line, that’s fine. I'll start with the NHL NHL I’ll pinpoint to the Los Angeles Kings’ 1988 rebrand (switching from Laker colors to Raider colors), combined with trading for Wayne Gretzky, as the beginning of the increase of the color black in NHL (and in all of sports). As a result, the Kings would soon become one of the more popular teams in the NHL and play a key role in the NHL’s expansion into other California cities and in the Southern USA (much to the chargin to some Canadian/Northern US traditionalists). Unlike most teams that changed to black from the late 80s onward, the Kings are one of the few teams that actually look good in black. Pre-1990s Of the original 6 teams, only the Boston Bruins wore black as a major color with yellow (athletic gold) as the secondary color. The Chicago Blackhawks have black as a secondary color as red is their primary color. When the NHL expanded in 1968, the Philadelphia Flyers introduced an orange/black color scheme with orange as the primary color. For example, the lineup of NHL team uniforms during the 1975/1976 season. 1976/77 – California Golden Seals relocated to Cleveland to become the Barons. The franchise changed their color scheme from tealish-green/yellow to dark red/black. 1978/79 – The Barons folded and merged with the Minnesota North Stars. - The Vancouver Canucks have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from blue/green to black/yellow/orange. 1979/80 - Inspired by then-recent champion success of the other Pittsburgh teams (Steelers and Pirates), The Pittsburgh Penguins changed their uniforms during the middle of the season. The color scheme changed from navy blue/light blue to black/yellow. The Bruins objected to the Penguins’ color scheme, but the NHL allowed the Penguins to change their colors. 1980/81 - The Penguins’ first full season in their new color scheme. 1981/82 - The Minnesota North Stars add black as a 3rd color to their green/yellow color scheme 1985/86 - The Canucks changed their uniforms (toned down from the ugly “V” uniforms) but retain their color scheme. The uniforms would be further toned down exchanging yellow jerseys for white in 1989. 1988/89 - The Los Angeles Kings changed their logo and uniforms from “Laker” (purple and yellow) colors to “Raider” colors (black and silver). - The North Stars change the color of their shorts from green to black.
  9. The Minor Leagues of professional baseball are known for wacky and weird team names. This thesis study aims to explore the development process of creating such teams. The idea is to develop a series of logos from community created minor league baseball teams. These team names are developed by using a series of requirements like location followed by a mascot which can come from the name of animals, profession, nature, local landmarks, people, food, pronouns, or things in your garage. This servery will help you develop your own team. Only 6 teams will be selected so make it interesting. Bonus Points for team names that relate to the location (ex. New Orleans Baby Cakes) LINK FOR SURVEY: https://forms.gle/AdCVLTB9uEgn2bQw9
  10. Hello everyone!... Well, I've been on the boards here for a whole decade now! Time flies when you're having fun, and I've very much enjoyed my time here. I thought that I'd do a compilation piece for a number of reasons... - Everyone's doing "decade" lists... - I missed out on Chris Creamer's Best lists yet again... - and, good ol' photobucket has wiped out most of my past threads So, here's 10 years of logos that have appeared on these Concept pages, all in one handy-dandy graphic. (I cheated a bit here...I had to borrow several "Hockey Cods" to get the number up to 100..but, close enough.) Here's to looking back over the past decade, and looking forward to the next. Enjoy!!...and thanks for dropping by...
  11. Has this topic been discussed before regarding not quite accurate parts of sports logos/uniforms/stadiums in movies or tv shows? In the 1988 film “Naked Gun”, there’s a memorable funny scene where the main character, Lt. Frank Drebin (Leslie Nielsen) disguises himself as an umpire during a game between the Angels and the Mariners. While the Mariners uniforms were accurate, the Angels were wearing red helmets instead of navy ones like they did in real life. The movie did get the navy caps (and the rest of the uniforms) correct however. https://briansgifs.tumblr.com/post/74542897964/the-way-baseball-should-be-played These are stadium-related inaccurate scenes rather than logo-related: - The Angels/Mariners games in the aforementioned Naked Gun movie is filmed in Dodger Stadium rather than the Angels’ home park (Angel Stadium in Anaheim) - In Major League (1989), the movie was filmed at County Stadium in Milwaukee rather than Cleveland’s Municipal Stadium. The 1994 sequel is filmed at Baltimore’s Camden Yards. The uniforms in both films are accurate based on the 1988 and 1993 seasons respectively. However, In Major League 2's movie cover, actor Corbin Bernsen is wearing a red undershirt with his uniform instead of navy as seen with Charlie Sheen. The Indians always wore navy socks/undershirts with those uniforms and never wore red in real life. - In one scene in Rookie of the Year (1993), the Cubs are on a road trip playing the Dodgers. The teams are clearly playing at New Comiskey Park (the White Sox ballpark) rather than Dodger Stadium. However, the uniforms throughout the movie are accurate (based on the 1992 season) - In Angels in the Outfield (1994), the movie was filmed at Oakland Coliseum (The A's ballpark, pre-Mount Davis) rather than Angel Stadium in Anaheim. The uniforms throughout the movie are accurate (based on the 1993 season) Here are some basketball ones: There were made-for-TV movies about Michael Jordan (MJ: an American Hero in 1999) and Dennis Rodman (Bad as I Wanna Be in 1998) in the late 1990s. Due to not getting rights to use NBA licenses (logos, uniforms, etc), the actors had to wear generic-looking uniforms in both films. The Jordan movie is on YouTube. Go to 1:13:16 to see the Bulls uniforms in the movie. However, the Rodman movie is not. Here's the ABC promo (plus a small clip of the Spurs "logo" at 0:08) Anyone else know any other sports logo/stadium inaccuracies in TV Shows or Movies? Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey, Soccer, etc.
  12. Hey everyone! I've been getting more into the graphic design area of sports and rather than drawing all my logos/uniforms I took a shot at putting one in photoshop. Here is what turned out. I am just looking for feedback and suggestions and might start a fantasy league in the future.
  13. I'm not exactly sure what to call this as it's a bit different from the Unused Logos/Jersey thread. This is forgotten history about team name changes, logo rumors and relocation that never -- that kind of stuff. I bring this up for a couple of reasons and I'll illustrate my point to hopefully set the tone of the thread. I was researching the late '80s NBA expansion of Miami, Orlando, Minnesota and Charlotte and found a few interesting nuggets in this article. I knew about the Charlotte Spirit nickname as it wasn't well received, the I found the Florida Heat nickname bit interesting and pretty much forgotten without having to dig pretty far back into news archives to find the reference. Additionally there was The Athletic article yesterday about the Dallas Mavericks aborted rebranding in the late 90s before Mark Cuban bought the team and branded them with their current look. I also found a few mentions in other articles of the possibilities of the Spurs moving to Miami to accommodate both Expansion bids in Florida, since the NBA was originally set to expand only by three instead of four teams. Anyways, I'd love to discover more lost history in other sport leagues since basketball is what I know best. What do you have?
  14. I guess we're starting to look forward to the 2018-19 season with the recent news of the Charlotte Hornets wearing the white version of their classic throwbacks next year. Just on a side note, it'll be interesting to see if the Hornets follow that up in 2019-20 with their purple throwback jerseys? Obviously that's just speculation. As far as other changes at this point, I am not sure if we've heard anything else. I would assume more teams will wear classic throwbacks and we'll see a new wave of community jerseys since apparently those will be a yearly change for some if not all teams?
  15. Since I don't think anyone has started a topic relating to this, I was wondering what you think the best and worst logo recolorings are (only minor changes are okay). Most end up being upgrades, but some are actually downgrades in my opinion. Note these are not full redesigns, just changing of colors of a present logo. Best to (Got rid of that horribly dated Vegas Gold) to (Returned the Lions back to their nice classic colors) to (That old Pistons color scheme was just awful. Going back to the old colors was necessary) to (Another product of the 90s removed, replacing the colors with the classic team colors) to (God who thought that gold and red combo was a good idea to begin with. Changed colors much more unique and poppy) Worst to (Yeah the yellow was improved from the 90s logo, but really returning to those weird colors?) to (That grey facemask just looks so much worse than the white one in my opinion) to (The colors went from actually from the jerseys/scheme to not representative of the team colors AT ALL) to (The red just pops so much more than that ugly maroon color) to (I know there's a time jump, but the old colors just pop so much more than the dull new colors) There are definitely more out there. Want to hear your opinions!
  16. As in this period so many people seems to be taken into the Star Wars madness I've decided to change the subject of my fantasy league from Star Wars to The Lord of the Rings/ The Hobbit world. My Galactic Football League will have to wait a bit more. Why did I choose hockey for my Middle-earth fantasy league? I thought that hockey was the most fitting sport for J.R.R. Tolkien fictional continent as most of his stories take place in dark and cold times full of battles and wars. To me hockey is one of those sports which represents best an ancient battle fight. For these reasons I'm glad to present you the Middle-earth Hockey League (MEHL in short)! Little geographical lesson My hockey league teams will all be based on the geography you can see on maps in Tolkien's most famous books, LOTR and The Hobbit, which are setted in the Third Age of Arda (just because Middle-earth has not been the same shape ever). The whole world which is called Ea or Arda has many different continents but all my teams will be in the Middle-earth continent (also known as Endor, well, not that Endor). League Teams Rohan Riders Helm's Deep Defenders Minas Tirith Monarchs Minas Morgul Nazguls Osgiliath Legion Bree Brewers Rivendell Lords Mirkwood Hunters Moria Forgers Isengard Wild Erebor Mountain Kings Shire Halflings Misty Mountains Avalanche Mordor Black Army Anduin Argonath Ithilien Bowmen Dale Blazers Iron Hills Ironfeet League Map (the image is quite big, I suggest to have a look on full size mode) The league will not have conferences in it and every team will be playing two season games against each other team, one home and one away. There will not be playoffs, the team with the most victories gets the league trophy. In case of an even number of victories of two or more teams the number of draws or losses will be analysed. Hope you enjoy this thread!
  17. I tried to develop a Kent State baseball hat and logo. This was done awhile back to get feedback from friends and family which did not provide any consensus. Thought I’d post what I have to get some feedback before I try to work on them again.
  18. Considering the NFL had it's first major throwback uniform season in 1994 to celebrate the league's 75th season, I've been wondering for years how the NFL's 100th season in 2019 would look as far as uniforms are concerned. Since it is now only three years away I thought I would make a post about it so we can see who was right when 2019 does finally get here. If the 75th season can give us any ideas, they would be that every team will wear a 100th season jersey patch (every team wore a diamond-shaped 75th Season jersey patch in 1994, even on the throwback uniforms) but I think that's where the similarities between the two seasons will end. I do think special uniforms will be worn in 2019, but I don't think they will be throwbacks. The throwback trend seems to be dead for multiple reasons (played out / losing popularity, pretty much run out of interesting old uniforms to bring back, players must wear the same helmet throughout the season now so that eliminates a lot of options, etc.) so I'm guessing in 2019 to celebrate the 100th Season of the league they will do a throw forward year, with every single team having Color Rush (or some other gimmick) games or having Nike design "Pro Combat" style one-off uniforms designed to be worn with each team's normal helmet. If you don't count Super Bowl XXIX, when the league let the 49ers wear their 1994 throwbacks longer than teams were initially allowed and throwout the playoffs and Super Bowl, I believe Super Bowl LIV, played at the end of the 2019 season, could be the first year we see alternate jerseys or special one-off "Pro Combat" uniforms in the Super Bowl, if it doesn't happen this year for Super Bowl 50 (could be a nice game day or game time surprise for the 50th celebration.) In addition to "throw forward" and "Pro Combat" uniforms I'm sure the NFL will make an exception and let the two teams that played in the very first season of the NFL and are still around have a throwback year like they did for the original AFL teams in 2009 for the 50th Anniversary of the AFL. That means the Bears would throwback as the Decatur Staleys and the Cardinals would throwback as the Chicago Cardinals (that would be an interesting game: Chicago vs Chicago! With 1920 throwbacks!!!) So what do you guys think? What do you think is going to happen three years from now during the 100th Season of the NFL as far as team uniforms and logos are concerned?
  19. Hi, I have a special question for any of you who is experienced graphic designer in sport industry. The question goes to industry standards in pricing, licensing royalties. Not sure this place is the right one, but I have a feeling it may be I should explain a bit the background of why I ask. I run a jersey design blog and Twitter account called Dresblog in Czech Republic. Not an easy thing, since european hockey design is poisoned with a lot of commercials on the jerseys, so it is not only about the design, but also about trying to persuade people things could work the same even in more decent way And yes, I was inspired a lot also by this very website, when I got the idea to move the tweets from my personal account to some specialised one. Anyway, the sport design is my hobby only, since mostly I am an illustrator. But as it turns out, some people like my opinions and ask me to do a sport design for them too. I do it now or then, yet so far mostly for friends only (you can see my pinned tweet, that is my work). Now it seems those requests come more often even from people that are regular customers. And here is the thing. Here in Czech Republic, there is still not much well known that graphic work and price consists from at least two parts. The job itself and the amount of rights the customer gets for using the work. No matter whether he will hang it on the wall or print the t-shirts in every country possible. I see it every day, when I negotiate with my customers, even graphics themselves, except those doing for big business companies, are not much aware they can get something like royalties. Many years of communism has damaged a lot of things, including the marke practices, this is one of them, people has lost the awareness of how to treat the creative rights fair. And that is why I ask you for an advice. For my illustrations, I got a handbook from US Graphic Artist Guild. I got some idea what to charge when I paint an illustration for a t-shirt or do a cover design for the package now. I got some idea or common prices for what to charge for a logo, for unlimited license use of such. But sport, that is still something bit different. The strength of a club history, of what it means for fans, it sets the balance elsewhere, in opinion. And I wish to be fair for both sides of the deal, customer and myself too. So I try to look around, how do they do it in other countries. My basic questions I got in my head would be these: Sport vs. business logo - does the price differ? Sport logo used for merch - any fee, royalties? Sport merch design generally - what royalties? I try to explain the thoughts for this: When I compare creation of business and sport team logo, I wonder whether is there in general any difference in price paid or price construction. Company logos are usually not charged for royalties, have unlimited usage, sice owner gets all-in rights, which are included to the price (based on the company size etc). But the sport logos will most probably take a place on merchandise often as the main theme of such merch. So does this change the price of the logo anyhow? Or does this lead to separation of the logo creation and basic usage price (including all-in usage on anything that is not sold) and logo merchandise usage price? So lets say the logo is priced similar way like in business. And then merch itself is priced extra and paid in royalties. If so, what should be such? I have found that average rate may be 8-11 %, but I am not sure whether this includes using of logo or some other original art (like bellow). Speaking of original art merchandise, how are the average royalties in sport design, let’s say for designing a t-shirt? I am aware that it could differ from the complexity of such design, with some logo plus simple typography at the lower end (if even) to higher rates for a complex original art or illustration. But is that how things really work? Those are questions that are not easy to answer without having the experience in this particular part of sport business. And that is why I try to find the answer here. If any of you have such experience and is fine with sharing it with me, if any of you knows someone who should be a good person to ask - I will be glad for any kind of answer. I am not asking this only because of my self, or my business, though I will use any valid information. I find such knowledge to be very useful for any graphic, and it is a thing I try to share with my friends, for healthy and balanced cooperation with clients helps to all of us. Apart for the illustration itself this is one of the most common themes in our personal discussions and we share our own experiences and knowledge a lot. Thanks a lot. PS: I have been pondering whether to use this forum or the General Design one, but since it goes with "nothing to do with sports", I have decided this one fits the best, though it is not the usual theme.
  20. Another Miami Marlins rebrand thread... I'll start by saying I'm not the biggest fan of the new logo in general and I was just getting used to their "look" after years of warming up to it. Any way, this lead me to create my version of some Miami Marlins logos. I'm not too sure how far I'm going to take this project as it was just purely fun for me to lay these out but I thought I'd get some criticism and feedback on where I'm at so far. The colors used are a mix of the old teal, and the now old orange..I doubt they're exact but inspired by anyway. The way I have these presented is in no particular order or hierarchy. They still need some refinement of course and I want to go back and explore more dynamic typography options although I don't mind the clean, bold look. Let me know what you think!
  21. On April 21, 2001 at the conclusion of the first of that American staple we call "The Big Game at the End", as we watched the Xtreme lift that big X over their heads, we thought that the XFL would be taken away from us forever. But apparently, there are rumblings that the X Football League might be fixin' to make a comeback! Now if that's true, which I hope it is, first of all I'll be tuning in for sure, and second of all they're gonna have to tone down the 2001 more than a few notches. Especially with NFL ratings in steep decline this season, this is the perfect time for Vince McMahon to swoop in and create the Anti-NFL, or the Xtra-Fun League, if you will. But image is everything. And safety, safety's probably in there somewhere too. We'll see. So I want to get way out ahead of the rumors and set up what I think would be a fitting return for the XFL 18 years later. I'm not gonna quibble over the actual rulebook, I'll let them figure that out, but I do know what I'd like to see design wise. Here are my design rules: 1. There are no rules! Actually, there are a few. They're right here. 2. No white allowed. Off-white is allowed in small doses, as well as silver, but stark white is not allowed on Logos, Uniforms, or Merchandise of any kind. 3. Helmets are a canvas. No more small, tame, rinky-dink helmet logos. Helmets should be loud and expressive of a team's design, serving as the centerpiece of their uniform. 4. 3 logos per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Insignia: main logo, Proxy: secondary, Character: letter logo 5. 3 uniforms per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Base: worn at home, Clash: worn on the road, Army: outside the box third jersey worn at home. 6. Unique NOBs are still allowed, but have to be approved before being applied to jersey. So there you have 'em, my official design rules for the XFL! I'll be following these closely for all eight teams (more on teams ahead). The New Official Logos of the XFL The original XFL logo was rushed and horrible, so I wanted to make a logo that would completely change people's view of the league. Modernized, but as no nonsense as always. This was my creative process, pardon the roughness. Early thoughts were that I'd like to include a lightning bolt in the X or make the X from negative space, but I ended up choosing something closest to the lowest logo on the center left because I liked the unique shape and inclusion of a football. After some retooling, I ended up with a result I'm really happy with that includes an Insignia, Proxy, and Character logo for the league. The Insignia uses a combo football/shield shape with half of the X made by stitches; football or otherwise. Teams Here's the thing, I don't know the teams yet. I know the cities, but I don't know the teams. The reason being this is going to be a step-by-step project so I'll be including my entire process, part of which is choosing the names of all 8 teams. I'd love to hear any names you can come up with as well! Here are the eight locations: Boston (new) Chicago Detroit (new) Las Vegas California New York St. Louis (new) Texas (new) So there it is, The new XFL! What do you think of the idea, setup, and first trio of logos? Your feedback is incredibly important to me, so don't hold back with the C&C! Thanks guys, and stay tuned for Boston!
  22. Over the past week, I have posted a few of these logos and they seemed to go over well, so I decided to run with the theme... each logo is inspired by an NHL team, but designed for a mini-mite-level kid's hockey team. Every logo is a work in progress, so feedback is appreciated! All designs from this set are available at: https://www.teepublic.com/user/csquared Up first is Pittsburgh:
  23. Hey Everyone! Third time's a charm!? The NPHL is a group of dedicated hockey fans that want to play in a league but there is just one problem...they can't skate! So we decided to play a form of "Dek Hockey" on outside basketball courts. 3 on 3, no goalies, street puck, and we use the small skill nets for a goal. The uniforms will consist of a T-shirt, basketball shorts and hockey gloves. (And obviously sticks!) The NPHL will premiere the Summer of 2019 and right now we are in the phase of coming up with the team names and logos. So with that being said I hope you guys like this one! C&C Welcome! NPHL - Simple design. Letters stacked on top each other to form a strong crest. A star in the North East of the logo to represent the league itself. Colors are black and white.
  24. For parts of the past six years but particularly during the past 18 months, I've been dedicating a large percentage of my time toward launching a new professional sports league - of a sport that hasn't really been tested in North American markets. It's not as imaginative as Kronum (look it up if you're unfamiliar), but an internationally known sport which, for whatever reason, has never been tried here at anything resembling a professional level. I've now reached a point where I wish to bounce this concept off of others, as well as to initiate and develop a business relationship with some talented graphic designers should this thing actually come to fruition. There are, or at one time at least were, a number of talented people who had solid skill sets. What I have in mind is gathering a group of such people, putting them into a collaborative, electronically-centered environment, and letting them collectively create and maintain this league's entire identity portfolio, spinning off finished product to a "Properties" entity which would license them (i) to league teams at a development cost + nominal basis, and (ii) to third parties (e.g., merchandise vendors) at a standardized royalty rate for the industry. As I envision this concept, while the Properties entity would be owned by myself and the various team operators, those who contribute their ideas and sweat equity would benefit in a unique way as well. On projects that aren't revenue generating, the Properties entity would bill the team operator at cost of production, which would be paid to the designer/designers involved less any necessary overhead (i.e., taxes). On projects that do generate revenue, the Properties entity would pay the designer/designers involved one-third of whatever royalty fees it collects from the work over an extended (though not indefinite) period of time (I'm thinking 7 years, but that could be negotiated from project to project). We anticipate that for example, with a 12.5% standard royalty rate, a team logo that was embroidered on a $29.99 retail hat by a vendor for example would net its designers roughly $1.25 per piece. This would be split on collaborative efforts equally among all who contribute to the finished work. Taking an ownership interest in the Properties entity may also be a possibility for those whose work merits such consideration. Now to be clear, I'm asking you to design absolutely nothing now. The only logo we need at this stage (that of the league itself) is done. I'm not posting this here in hope of seeking "spec" work, either. Quite the contrary. I want those who get involved in this to generate ongoing, long term revenue from the brands they create, if the material is good enough to generate sales. If you've never had a shot at doing a real pro team's logo and ancillary collateral? If this league concept takes root, you'd have that opportunity. What I am asking is that if you have interest (and feel you have sufficient ability), you PM me with your real name and an e-mail address. I will respond via e-mail, sending you a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Once that is executed, your first step will be to receive a written briefing on the concept itself, and hopefully gathering your feedback on it. I'm not promising anything here - I'm taking a risk, both of my money and my personal reputation, in hope of getting this thing launched. It may go nowhere, or there could be a hall of fame celebrating this sport here in Raleigh, North Carolina a hundred years from now. I have no way of knowing, but we won't know unless we take a shot at it. If you're interested in being part of that shot, this is a "ground floor" chance - one I know doesn't come often for anyone.
  25. Thanks for watching!