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  1. post sports stuff that isn't posted on sportslogos.net
  2. Hey everyone! I've been getting more into the graphic design area of sports and rather than drawing all my logos/uniforms I took a shot at putting one in photoshop. Here is what turned out. I am just looking for feedback and suggestions and might start a fantasy league in the future.
  3. I was Googling earlier this afternoon and found this prototype Phoenix Suns jersey from the early '70s. I am assuming that it was around the time they switched to their famous Western Font style. Does anyone have any info on it? It also made me interested in finding other prototype jerseys in the Big Four. I am aware of the Nordiques and a Padres jersey from the '90s. Does anyone else have any they want to share here?
  4. Has this topic been discussed before regarding not quite accurate parts of sports logos/uniforms/stadiums in movies or tv shows? In the 1988 film “Naked Gun”, there’s a memorable funny scene where the main character, Lt. Frank Drebin (Leslie Nielsen) disguises himself as an umpire during a game between the Angels and the Mariners. While the Mariners uniforms were accurate, the Angels were wearing red helmets instead of navy ones like they did in real life. The movie did get the navy caps (and the rest of the uniforms) correct however. https://briansgifs.tumblr.com/post/74542897964/the-way-baseball-should-be-played These are stadium-related inaccurate scenes rather than logo-related: - The Angels/Mariners games in the aforementioned Naked Gun movie is filmed in Dodger Stadium rather than the Angels’ home park (Angel Stadium in Anaheim) - In Major League (1989), the movie was filmed at County Stadium in Milwaukee rather than Cleveland’s Municipal Stadium. The 1994 sequel is filmed at Baltimore’s Camden Yards. The uniforms in both films are accurate based on the 1988 and 1993 seasons respectively. However, In Major League 2's movie cover, actor Corbin Bernsen is wearing a red undershirt with his uniform instead of navy as seen with Charlie Sheen. The Indians always wore navy socks/undershirts with those uniforms and never wore red in real life. - In one scene in Rookie of the Year (1993), the Cubs are on a road trip playing the Dodgers. The teams are clearly playing at New Comiskey Park (the White Sox ballpark) rather than Dodger Stadium. However, the uniforms throughout the movie are accurate (based on the 1992 season) - In Angels in the Outfield (1994), the movie was filmed at Oakland Coliseum (The A's ballpark, pre-Mount Davis) rather than Angel Stadium in Anaheim. The uniforms throughout the movie are accurate (based on the 1993 season) Here are some basketball ones: There were made-for-TV movies about Michael Jordan (MJ: an American Hero in 1999) and Dennis Rodman (Bad as I Wanna Be in 1998) in the late 1990s. Due to not getting rights to use NBA licenses (logos, uniforms, etc), the actors had to wear generic-looking uniforms in both films. The Jordan movie is on YouTube. Go to 1:13:16 to see the Bulls uniforms in the movie. However, the Rodman movie is not. Here's the ABC promo (plus a small clip of the Spurs "logo" at 0:08) Anyone else know any other sports logo/stadium inaccuracies in TV Shows or Movies? Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey, Soccer, etc.
  5. I'm not exactly sure what to call this as it's a bit different from the Unused Logos/Jersey thread. This is forgotten history about team name changes, logo rumors and relocation that never -- that kind of stuff. I bring this up for a couple of reasons and I'll illustrate my point to hopefully set the tone of the thread. I was researching the late '80s NBA expansion of Miami, Orlando, Minnesota and Charlotte and found a few interesting nuggets in this article. I knew about the Charlotte Spirit nickname as it wasn't well received, the I found the Florida Heat nickname bit interesting and pretty much forgotten without having to dig pretty far back into news archives to find the reference. Additionally there was The Athletic article yesterday about the Dallas Mavericks aborted rebranding in the late 90s before Mark Cuban bought the team and branded them with their current look. I also found a few mentions in other articles of the possibilities of the Spurs moving to Miami to accommodate both Expansion bids in Florida, since the NBA was originally set to expand only by three instead of four teams. Anyways, I'd love to discover more lost history in other sport leagues since basketball is what I know best. What do you have?
  6. I guess we're starting to look forward to the 2018-19 season with the recent news of the Charlotte Hornets wearing the white version of their classic throwbacks next year. Just on a side note, it'll be interesting to see if the Hornets follow that up in 2019-20 with their purple throwback jerseys? Obviously that's just speculation. As far as other changes at this point, I am not sure if we've heard anything else. I would assume more teams will wear classic throwbacks and we'll see a new wave of community jerseys since apparently those will be a yearly change for some if not all teams?
  7. Since I don't think anyone has started a topic relating to this, I was wondering what you think the best and worst logo recolorings are (only minor changes are okay). Most end up being upgrades, but some are actually downgrades in my opinion. Note these are not full redesigns, just changing of colors of a present logo. Best to (Got rid of that horribly dated Vegas Gold) to (Returned the Lions back to their nice classic colors) to (That old Pistons color scheme was just awful. Going back to the old colors was necessary) to (Another product of the 90s removed, replacing the colors with the classic team colors) to (God who thought that gold and red combo was a good idea to begin with. Changed colors much more unique and poppy) Worst to (Yeah the yellow was improved from the 90s logo, but really returning to those weird colors?) to (That grey facemask just looks so much worse than the white one in my opinion) to (The colors went from actually from the jerseys/scheme to not representative of the team colors AT ALL) to (The red just pops so much more than that ugly maroon color) to (I know there's a time jump, but the old colors just pop so much more than the dull new colors) There are definitely more out there. Want to hear your opinions!
  8. I wasn't sure where to put all of these, so I figured I'd start a new thread of small little finds I found while browsing the 'net -- and specifically, right now -- Getty Images. Most of these are small oddities, difficult finds and what not. I was going to open this up to stuff I found in other sports, but basketball and NBA history in the 70s and 80s has recently captured my attention. Anyways ... some of my finds: GORGEOUS Color vs. Color in Baltimore against the Bullets and Warriors (also note it's Ladies Night!) Royals vs. Warriors game in Phoenix's Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. The caption says it was a 1967 pre-season game. Note Rick Barry in the old-style Warriors' jersey. He never wore these in the regular season as 'The City' jerseys were introduced on Opening Night 1967. Larry Nance wearing #6 in the half season right after he was traded to Cleveland from Phoenix. Similarly, Kevin Johnson wore #11 in Phoenix for the half season after he was traded from Cleveland to Phoenix. Interesting font and styling of Tom McMillen's name on this Hawks' jersey. Not sure why the underline? Notice the name on the back of Dave Stallworth of the Bullets. The name was pretty long so the "st" of Stallworth is white to not clash with the blue stripe.
  9. As in this period so many people seems to be taken into the Star Wars madness I've decided to change the subject of my fantasy league from Star Wars to The Lord of the Rings/ The Hobbit world. My Galactic Football League will have to wait a bit more. Why did I choose hockey for my Middle-earth fantasy league? I thought that hockey was the most fitting sport for J.R.R. Tolkien fictional continent as most of his stories take place in dark and cold times full of battles and wars. To me hockey is one of those sports which represents best an ancient battle fight. For these reasons I'm glad to present you the Middle-earth Hockey League (MEHL in short)! Little geographical lesson My hockey league teams will all be based on the geography you can see on maps in Tolkien's most famous books, LOTR and The Hobbit, which are setted in the Third Age of Arda (just because Middle-earth has not been the same shape ever). The whole world which is called Ea or Arda has many different continents but all my teams will be in the Middle-earth continent (also known as Endor, well, not that Endor). League Teams Rohan Riders Helm's Deep Defenders Minas Tirith Monarchs Minas Morgul Nazguls Osgiliath Legion Bree Brewers Rivendell Lords Mirkwood Hunters Moria Forgers Isengard Wild Erebor Mountain Kings Shire Halflings Misty Mountains Avalanche Mordor Black Army Anduin Argonath Ithilien Bowmen Dale Blazers Iron Hills Ironfeet League Map (the image is quite big, I suggest to have a look on full size mode) The league will not have conferences in it and every team will be playing two season games against each other team, one home and one away. There will not be playoffs, the team with the most victories gets the league trophy. In case of an even number of victories of two or more teams the number of draws or losses will be analysed. Hope you enjoy this thread!
  10. I tried to develop a Kent State baseball hat and logo. This was done awhile back to get feedback from friends and family which did not provide any consensus. Thought I’d post what I have to get some feedback before I try to work on them again.
  11. Considering the NFL had it's first major throwback uniform season in 1994 to celebrate the league's 75th season, I've been wondering for years how the NFL's 100th season in 2019 would look as far as uniforms are concerned. Since it is now only three years away I thought I would make a post about it so we can see who was right when 2019 does finally get here. If the 75th season can give us any ideas, they would be that every team will wear a 100th season jersey patch (every team wore a diamond-shaped 75th Season jersey patch in 1994, even on the throwback uniforms) but I think that's where the similarities between the two seasons will end. I do think special uniforms will be worn in 2019, but I don't think they will be throwbacks. The throwback trend seems to be dead for multiple reasons (played out / losing popularity, pretty much run out of interesting old uniforms to bring back, players must wear the same helmet throughout the season now so that eliminates a lot of options, etc.) so I'm guessing in 2019 to celebrate the 100th Season of the league they will do a throw forward year, with every single team having Color Rush (or some other gimmick) games or having Nike design "Pro Combat" style one-off uniforms designed to be worn with each team's normal helmet. If you don't count Super Bowl XXIX, when the league let the 49ers wear their 1994 throwbacks longer than teams were initially allowed and throwout the playoffs and Super Bowl, I believe Super Bowl LIV, played at the end of the 2019 season, could be the first year we see alternate jerseys or special one-off "Pro Combat" uniforms in the Super Bowl, if it doesn't happen this year for Super Bowl 50 (could be a nice game day or game time surprise for the 50th celebration.) In addition to "throw forward" and "Pro Combat" uniforms I'm sure the NFL will make an exception and let the two teams that played in the very first season of the NFL and are still around have a throwback year like they did for the original AFL teams in 2009 for the 50th Anniversary of the AFL. That means the Bears would throwback as the Decatur Staleys and the Cardinals would throwback as the Chicago Cardinals (that would be an interesting game: Chicago vs Chicago! With 1920 throwbacks!!!) So what do you guys think? What do you think is going to happen three years from now during the 100th Season of the NFL as far as team uniforms and logos are concerned?
  12. Hi, I have a special question for any of you who is experienced graphic designer in sport industry. The question goes to industry standards in pricing, licensing royalties. Not sure this place is the right one, but I have a feeling it may be I should explain a bit the background of why I ask. I run a jersey design blog and Twitter account called Dresblog in Czech Republic. Not an easy thing, since european hockey design is poisoned with a lot of commercials on the jerseys, so it is not only about the design, but also about trying to persuade people things could work the same even in more decent way And yes, I was inspired a lot also by this very website, when I got the idea to move the tweets from my personal account to some specialised one. Anyway, the sport design is my hobby only, since mostly I am an illustrator. But as it turns out, some people like my opinions and ask me to do a sport design for them too. I do it now or then, yet so far mostly for friends only (you can see my pinned tweet, that is my work). Now it seems those requests come more often even from people that are regular customers. And here is the thing. Here in Czech Republic, there is still not much well known that graphic work and price consists from at least two parts. The job itself and the amount of rights the customer gets for using the work. No matter whether he will hang it on the wall or print the t-shirts in every country possible. I see it every day, when I negotiate with my customers, even graphics themselves, except those doing for big business companies, are not much aware they can get something like royalties. Many years of communism has damaged a lot of things, including the marke practices, this is one of them, people has lost the awareness of how to treat the creative rights fair. And that is why I ask you for an advice. For my illustrations, I got a handbook from US Graphic Artist Guild. I got some idea what to charge when I paint an illustration for a t-shirt or do a cover design for the package now. I got some idea or common prices for what to charge for a logo, for unlimited license use of such. But sport, that is still something bit different. The strength of a club history, of what it means for fans, it sets the balance elsewhere, in opinion. And I wish to be fair for both sides of the deal, customer and myself too. So I try to look around, how do they do it in other countries. My basic questions I got in my head would be these: Sport vs. business logo - does the price differ? Sport logo used for merch - any fee, royalties? Sport merch design generally - what royalties? I try to explain the thoughts for this: When I compare creation of business and sport team logo, I wonder whether is there in general any difference in price paid or price construction. Company logos are usually not charged for royalties, have unlimited usage, sice owner gets all-in rights, which are included to the price (based on the company size etc). But the sport logos will most probably take a place on merchandise often as the main theme of such merch. So does this change the price of the logo anyhow? Or does this lead to separation of the logo creation and basic usage price (including all-in usage on anything that is not sold) and logo merchandise usage price? So lets say the logo is priced similar way like in business. And then merch itself is priced extra and paid in royalties. If so, what should be such? I have found that average rate may be 8-11 %, but I am not sure whether this includes using of logo or some other original art (like bellow). Speaking of original art merchandise, how are the average royalties in sport design, let’s say for designing a t-shirt? I am aware that it could differ from the complexity of such design, with some logo plus simple typography at the lower end (if even) to higher rates for a complex original art or illustration. But is that how things really work? Those are questions that are not easy to answer without having the experience in this particular part of sport business. And that is why I try to find the answer here. If any of you have such experience and is fine with sharing it with me, if any of you knows someone who should be a good person to ask - I will be glad for any kind of answer. I am not asking this only because of my self, or my business, though I will use any valid information. I find such knowledge to be very useful for any graphic, and it is a thing I try to share with my friends, for healthy and balanced cooperation with clients helps to all of us. Apart for the illustration itself this is one of the most common themes in our personal discussions and we share our own experiences and knowledge a lot. Thanks a lot. PS: I have been pondering whether to use this forum or the General Design one, but since it goes with "nothing to do with sports", I have decided this one fits the best, though it is not the usual theme.
  13. Another Miami Marlins rebrand thread... I'll start by saying I'm not the biggest fan of the new logo in general and I was just getting used to their "look" after years of warming up to it. Any way, this lead me to create my version of some Miami Marlins logos. I'm not too sure how far I'm going to take this project as it was just purely fun for me to lay these out but I thought I'd get some criticism and feedback on where I'm at so far. The colors used are a mix of the old teal, and the now old orange..I doubt they're exact but inspired by anyway. The way I have these presented is in no particular order or hierarchy. They still need some refinement of course and I want to go back and explore more dynamic typography options although I don't mind the clean, bold look. Let me know what you think!
  14. On April 21, 2001 at the conclusion of the first of that American staple we call "The Big Game at the End", as we watched the Xtreme lift that big X over their heads, we thought that the XFL would be taken away from us forever. But apparently, there are rumblings that the X Football League might be fixin' to make a comeback! Now if that's true, which I hope it is, first of all I'll be tuning in for sure, and second of all they're gonna have to tone down the 2001 more than a few notches. Especially with NFL ratings in steep decline this season, this is the perfect time for Vince McMahon to swoop in and create the Anti-NFL, or the Xtra-Fun League, if you will. But image is everything. And safety, safety's probably in there somewhere too. We'll see. So I want to get way out ahead of the rumors and set up what I think would be a fitting return for the XFL 18 years later. I'm not gonna quibble over the actual rulebook, I'll let them figure that out, but I do know what I'd like to see design wise. Here are my design rules: 1. There are no rules! Actually, there are a few. They're right here. 2. No white allowed. Off-white is allowed in small doses, as well as silver, but stark white is not allowed on Logos, Uniforms, or Merchandise of any kind. 3. Helmets are a canvas. No more small, tame, rinky-dink helmet logos. Helmets should be loud and expressive of a team's design, serving as the centerpiece of their uniform. 4. 3 logos per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Insignia: main logo, Proxy: secondary, Character: letter logo 5. 3 uniforms per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Base: worn at home, Clash: worn on the road, Army: outside the box third jersey worn at home. 6. Unique NOBs are still allowed, but have to be approved before being applied to jersey. So there you have 'em, my official design rules for the XFL! I'll be following these closely for all eight teams (more on teams ahead). The New Official Logos of the XFL The original XFL logo was rushed and horrible, so I wanted to make a logo that would completely change people's view of the league. Modernized, but as no nonsense as always. This was my creative process, pardon the roughness. Early thoughts were that I'd like to include a lightning bolt in the X or make the X from negative space, but I ended up choosing something closest to the lowest logo on the center left because I liked the unique shape and inclusion of a football. After some retooling, I ended up with a result I'm really happy with that includes an Insignia, Proxy, and Character logo for the league. The Insignia uses a combo football/shield shape with half of the X made by stitches; football or otherwise. Teams Here's the thing, I don't know the teams yet. I know the cities, but I don't know the teams. The reason being this is going to be a step-by-step project so I'll be including my entire process, part of which is choosing the names of all 8 teams. I'd love to hear any names you can come up with as well! Here are the eight locations: Boston (new) Chicago Detroit (new) Las Vegas California New York St. Louis (new) Texas (new) So there it is, The new XFL! What do you think of the idea, setup, and first trio of logos? Your feedback is incredibly important to me, so don't hold back with the C&C! Thanks guys, and stay tuned for Boston!
  15. Over the past week, I have posted a few of these logos and they seemed to go over well, so I decided to run with the theme... each logo is inspired by an NHL team, but designed for a mini-mite-level kid's hockey team. Every logo is a work in progress, so feedback is appreciated! All designs from this set are available at: https://www.teepublic.com/user/csquared Up first is Pittsburgh:
  16. Hey Everyone! Third time's a charm!? The NPHL is a group of dedicated hockey fans that want to play in a league but there is just one problem...they can't skate! So we decided to play a form of "Dek Hockey" on outside basketball courts. 3 on 3, no goalies, street puck, and we use the small skill nets for a goal. The uniforms will consist of a T-shirt, basketball shorts and hockey gloves. (And obviously sticks!) The NPHL will premiere the Summer of 2019 and right now we are in the phase of coming up with the team names and logos. So with that being said I hope you guys like this one! C&C Welcome! NPHL - Simple design. Letters stacked on top each other to form a strong crest. A star in the North East of the logo to represent the league itself. Colors are black and white.
  17. For parts of the past six years but particularly during the past 18 months, I've been dedicating a large percentage of my time toward launching a new professional sports league - of a sport that hasn't really been tested in North American markets. It's not as imaginative as Kronum (look it up if you're unfamiliar), but an internationally known sport which, for whatever reason, has never been tried here at anything resembling a professional level. I've now reached a point where I wish to bounce this concept off of others, as well as to initiate and develop a business relationship with some talented graphic designers should this thing actually come to fruition. There are, or at one time at least were, a number of talented people who had solid skill sets. What I have in mind is gathering a group of such people, putting them into a collaborative, electronically-centered environment, and letting them collectively create and maintain this league's entire identity portfolio, spinning off finished product to a "Properties" entity which would license them (i) to league teams at a development cost + nominal basis, and (ii) to third parties (e.g., merchandise vendors) at a standardized royalty rate for the industry. As I envision this concept, while the Properties entity would be owned by myself and the various team operators, those who contribute their ideas and sweat equity would benefit in a unique way as well. On projects that aren't revenue generating, the Properties entity would bill the team operator at cost of production, which would be paid to the designer/designers involved less any necessary overhead (i.e., taxes). On projects that do generate revenue, the Properties entity would pay the designer/designers involved one-third of whatever royalty fees it collects from the work over an extended (though not indefinite) period of time (I'm thinking 7 years, but that could be negotiated from project to project). We anticipate that for example, with a 12.5% standard royalty rate, a team logo that was embroidered on a $29.99 retail hat by a vendor for example would net its designers roughly $1.25 per piece. This would be split on collaborative efforts equally among all who contribute to the finished work. Taking an ownership interest in the Properties entity may also be a possibility for those whose work merits such consideration. Now to be clear, I'm asking you to design absolutely nothing now. The only logo we need at this stage (that of the league itself) is done. I'm not posting this here in hope of seeking "spec" work, either. Quite the contrary. I want those who get involved in this to generate ongoing, long term revenue from the brands they create, if the material is good enough to generate sales. If you've never had a shot at doing a real pro team's logo and ancillary collateral? If this league concept takes root, you'd have that opportunity. What I am asking is that if you have interest (and feel you have sufficient ability), you PM me with your real name and an e-mail address. I will respond via e-mail, sending you a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Once that is executed, your first step will be to receive a written briefing on the concept itself, and hopefully gathering your feedback on it. I'm not promising anything here - I'm taking a risk, both of my money and my personal reputation, in hope of getting this thing launched. It may go nowhere, or there could be a hall of fame celebrating this sport here in Raleigh, North Carolina a hundred years from now. I have no way of knowing, but we won't know unless we take a shot at it. If you're interested in being part of that shot, this is a "ground floor" chance - one I know doesn't come often for anyone.
  18. Thanks for watching!
  19. I want to first start out by saying that I will try to make this long story a short one, but if I am unsuccessful in that I do apologize ahead of time. With that being said, this design started with a request from a high school to help them create a new logo and brand. The school's nickname is Gators, so like most high schools with that name they used the different variations of Florida's walking gator and gator head logos, as well as the Georgia/Green Bay "G" for their own branding. My task was to create something unique to this school, but not lose that basic identity that had been established, and create a "gator G" described to me as a "G" logo that is a gator. So, my designs were by request heavily influenced by Florida's. After investing a lot of time and effort into this new "brand" for said school and submitting my work, a new logo was passed and approved without my prior knowledge that was in fact not what I had been working on for months. After that, this become sort of a personal design project that I would continue and try to perfect, so here I am seeking some constructive criticism or compliments on that work so far. C&C, please! I will start off with the colors. The school's primary colors are Navy and Gold, with White as a third. The color in the small circle is meant to be a varying shade of the primary in order to be used in ways that enhance the look, but do not dominate it. I added Green as a color simply because, in my mind, gators are green in logos. It’s meant to be used throughout this "brand" in the same capacity that Ole Miss uses Powder Blue. The Colors The Logos This first logo is supposed to serve as the primary logo across the board. Above you see it in and on various color combinations. Yes, this is visually similar to Florida's walking gator in the fact that they are both Gators in letter-sweaters standing upright, but I tried to make it look a little more, for lack of a better word, amateur because it's meant for a high school team. The other plus to this logo is the opportunity to use the secondary colors (like Volt, Yellow, and Natural) in ways that I think enhance the overall look of the logo. Personally, this guy turned out to be one of my favorites. This second logo is one of the hardest and most thought out I can say I have ever done. This is the one that came from the request to create a "G" that is a gator in one. Design is a constant and ongoing process, and it took me a long time to finally get to this guy. The next evolution of the logo came with the creation of the above “Walking Gator” logo. I decided that if I was going to try and create this “brand” for the Gators, then the actual gator used should be implied as the same gator throughout. So as you will see, the gator head and face are the same in every logo, giving it what I think is a true “brand” look. Another logo used extremely often by teams nicknamed Gators is the Florida Gators primary logo, and like I said, this school was no exception. So again, that was the inspiration behind this logo. As you can see, it’s pretty self-explanatory, and like I said, all gators used in this “brand” are to be implied as the same gator. The next logo is one that had to evolve as I went as well. I’m unsure as to what I want to call it even to this point or what capacity it could be used, so we can just go with the “Gator Script” logo. This is the first logo that includes the whole “GAUTIER” word mark within it, and it is simply meant to resemble a gator as it stalks and swims at the top of the water. Using the last logo as an introduction point, these are the word mark logos for the “brand” in each color combination. The inspiration for these logos came early on in my time at the school when I noticed that the basketball team used a variation of the “flying” Lakers script on their gear. I always knew it was the Lakers design, but in my mind there was something that just screamed Gautier to me about it (maybe because that’s what I grew up seeing them wear when we played them), so I ran with it. As you can see, the font style used above is the same font style found on the Walking Gator’s sweater, the “Gator Script” logo, and the font that will be used in every piece of the Gautier “brand” to come. This next logo is what I call the tagline. I say that because in my head this logo was meant to serve as the main academic logo within the brand. The same way universities use their seal in the top left corner of postage and official academic documents. This is also a logo that sort of developed out of the “Gator Script” logo. The only changes are the implied presence of water under the gator, the loss of the outline, and the addition of “HIGH SCHOOL” at the bottom of the logo. That pretty much does it for the primary logos that make up the brand, so up next are some of the different variations of the above logos, and if this is well received, possibly uniforms, etc. Thanks for the time and the read!
  20. Hey everybody. I’ve been thinking about this for only about a minute but it really fascinates me. The concept of lost media is both utterly simple and endlessly complicated. Recent notable cases of found lost media include “Sally”, the infamous “Clockman” cartoon that spooked many an 80s child, but in reality is just an average visit from your uncle Trevor (you know the one, wears a banana yellow tuxedo with a Slipknot t-shirt to funerals); the lost sequel to “You on Kazoo!”; and “A Day with Spongebob Squarepants”, which never existed. I saw a comment on Chris Creamer’s new infographic, If Sports Teams Couldn’t Chane Their Logos, proposing that the original Philadelphia Flyers logo has been lost to time. The only other example that comes to mind is also from the NHL, which is any Hamilton Tigers logo, except for old, damaged photographs. Does anyone else know about any phantom logos? Maybe we can uncover them.
  21. So..."Biggest upgrades" and "Biggest downgrades" are already a thing on here. I figured I may as well start the only remaining thread in the series. In your opinion, which uniforms kept the quality close to the same level as their predecessors? For me the classic example would be the lateral move made by the Denver Broncos in 1997. They went from good uniform to good uniform (in my opinion anyway) while changing the dark jersey color and radically altering their design. The 1996 Philadelphia Eagles were similar - big changes, but all in all went from middling to middling. If there is a bad-to-bad lateral move...that one's a little trickier. I'm sure someone can fill us in though.
  22. Some time ago I stumbled on the World Football League logos here on CCSL and I decided to give them a new spring by regenerating the league and by expanding it. The league will still be named World Football League and here you have my new logo, wordmark, monochromo logo and jersey patch. In addition to the original 12 teams from the USA I added 4 from Canada, 8 from Central and South America, 5 from Africa, 8 from Europe, 7 from Asia and 2 from Oceania. Without more reserves I'm going to present you the league conferences. Original Conference Birmingham Americans Charlotte Hornets Chicago Fire Detroit Wheels Florida Blazers (Miami) Honolulu Hawaiians Houston Texans Jacksonville Sharks Memphis Southmen Philadelphia Bell Portland Storm Southern California Sun (Los Angeles) + Vancouver Lumberjacks Toronto Reds Calgary Express Ottawa Canadians From this conference the top 4 teams will play for the Championship Finals I tried to stick with the real identities of the 70s with names and colors although some of them are now used by other major sports teams. Euroconference Stockholm Vikings Rome Gladiators Munich Mountaineers Rois de Paris London White Knights Barcelona Dracs Athens Argonauts Moskow Saints Just one of these teams will fly to the Championship Finals. Liberty Conference (Conferencia de los Libertadores) Rio Cariocas Aztecas de México (Aztecs) Buenos Aires Gauchos (Cowboys) Montevideo Libertadores (freedom bearers) Valparaiso Almirantes (Admirals) Panama Tugboats Caracas Pertoleros (Oilers) Bogotà Generales (Generals) The conference is not named after the continet but after a piece of history which is shared by all of these countries. The team names are mostrly in the native language for merchandise questions. Just one of these teams will fly to the Championship Finals. Afroarab Conference Cairo Pharaos Cape Town Penguins Lagos Eagles Dakar Lions Casablanca Touaregs Riyadh Stallions Riyadh was added to this group as in my opinion it makes more sense than to add it to far east teams as also Egypt and Morocco share an arab based culture with the Saudi city. Just one of these teams will fly to the Championship Finals. Indopacific Conference Sydney Wallabies Auckland Helmsmen Tokyo Kitsune Manila Tropical Shangai Red Stars Singapore jets Seoul Tigers Mumbai Elephants Just one of these teams will fly to the Championship Finals. I must add that I chose the conference color thinking of the 5 olympic rings. The red of Northen America was changed with the brown of a football ball to represent the original set of teams. To sum up, in the Championship Finals there will be 4 teams from the Original Conference ad one from every other conference for a total of 8 teams fighting for the Championship Trophy. Here you have some maps to make the team settings clearer. My work will be divided in two parts, the first where I'm going to redesign the late WFL teams and a second one where I'll be creating brand new identities for the new teams.
  23. A lot of people here at the mothership reference the NFL's "five year rule" when it comes to changes in uniforms, helmets, logos and so forth. But what is the rule, exactly? Well, thanks to my bothering to look it up, I'm providing the answer for future, I'm sure scholarly, discussion. The "five year rule" is represented by a resolution adopted by the NFL's Executive Council as "2002 Resolution G-3." The formatting might get a little wonky below but its current form, verbatim (verbatim to the point where I'm even following the author's mistake in that the NFL's Constitution and Bylaws uses roman numerals, thus there is no "Article 19," but rather an "Article XIX"), is as follows... But wait... there's more! Only this I have to modify from the original text's layout because it's in table format... Isn't that simple to understand?
  24. Well its been promised for years and I finally finished the league last night! I will post two teams today then the rest next week. The concept behind this for those that have not followed my fictional league MLF, is that the MLF decided they needed a developmental league but did not want to brand it as such. They came up with MLF Spring League as a branding. There are eight teams one for every 4 teams in the MLF. The design of the league would be to name a managing partner that each club could agree on with equal investments coming from each team. The results have been pretty good so far. Here is the league logo.
  25. Every year I notice EPL clubs tend to make a fairly big deal out of releasing their kits for the upcoming season, sometimes it's just a change of an advertiser's mark or some other, relatively minute change. But this got me wondering: how would American fans respond to this practice if it were conducted in every major sport, every year? I mean we have people blowing gaskets over a leaked Tennessee Titans jersey that'll be presented tomorrow and while it's a change, and not necessarily a good change, it's not exactly Earth-shattering. So how would you feel if you knew that every year, the New York Yankees were going to release a new jersey that (probably) had some type of tweak to it? Or the Chicago Bears? Or when NBA teams figure out to make single-year sponsorship ad deals and start actually doing this? Do these annual uniform changes actually result in significant jersey sales in the European pro soccer circuits? Would they here? Would fans rebel and stop buying stuff altogether? What, in general, do you think the reaction to annual changes would be?