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Hey Washington, here's what I think of your best record in baseball!

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What did I miss.

It was AWESOME.

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Serious question- outside of SF/STL, is everyone else in the NL mentally weak? Literallly no other team beats these guys.

The Cardinals only lose to the Giants (or the AL), and the Giants either never lose or miss the playoffs.

This is 10 times worse than how I felt about the NHL West playoffs, and you all know how I felt about that.

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Hey Washington, here's what I think of your best record in baseball!

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The Panda Cartel has spoken!

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What did I miss.

It was AWESOME.

Was it the kind of thing that can't be unseen?

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Last year the Cardinals hit .330 with runners in scoring position. This year regression to the mean set in and they went back to a normal .254 like we all knew they would and they STILL MADE THE NLCS.

Cardinals Devil Magic is real.

I'm done with baseball until it gets better

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Hey Washington, here's what I think of your best record in baseball!

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The Panda Cartel has spoken!

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What did I miss.

It was AWESOME.

Was it the kind of thing that can't be unseen?

Pretty much.

Cardinals Devil Magic is real.

RIP Zac Stacy's knees. Maybe we can throw Austin Davis: Hero of the People! BFIB! under the sacrifice bus instead.

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Hey Washington, here's what I think of your best record in baseball!

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What did I miss.

It was a picture of a panda in a Giants uniform giving the finger, with a Giants logo censoring it.

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One step closer to 1985.

I prefer to think of it as "one step closer to the Orioles visiting their ancestral homeland" . . . or "one step closer to a Halloween Series".

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So my head is still spinning from the earlier discussion... did Kershaw deserve to win because he's the best pitcher in baseball and the playoffs against the Cardinals just aren't fair because he pitched twice in a 4-game series and that's just too small a sample size for a guy who pitches every fifth day in a 162-game season?

(Yeah, that's a run-on.)

Or is it okay because he gets a regular-season award? Maybe two?

Kershaw is a great example. Dude is hands down the best pitcher in the league. It's absurd what just happened to him. But it's a couple baseball games, and it can happen.

It's not that he deserved to win by any means, it's just that Shelby Miller isn't a better pitcher than Clayton Kershaw just because he was better today.

I think that's the only point anyone was trying to make. At least it was my point. I don't think being a league champion makes you the best team. It makes you the champion. That's great and fine and awesome. I just lament that the teams that do it from game 1 to game 162, but fall short because things don't go there way in 5 or 7 games get forgotten.

I'm not really asking for anything to change except people's perceptions of those teams, I guess.

I think it's fine to honor regular-season greatness. It just won't ever equal or trump postseason greatness, so what's the point?

I'm not sure a President's Trophy would make the Angels feel any better right now... or down the road.

I can't see anyone ever arguing that the 2014 Angels were better than whoever ends up winning this thing.

Someone mentioned it earlier, but the unbalanced schedule plays a role, too. All things aren't equal in the regular season, either.

I had to look up who has the most NHL President's Trophies... Red Wings? They did okay with cups, too. The Sharks sure don't catch any breaks around here for having one in their trophy case, and the Canucks fans didn't seem fulfilled by the two they won. Ultimately it's an empty gesture, IMO, no matter how random the postseason may seem.

And like I said, the 2008 Cubs were one of the best Cubs teams I've seen, but they got swept by the Dodgers, and that can't help but change your perspective in the grand scheme of things. They deserve what they got, an NL Central "2008" flag for Wrigley's roof and nothing else.

The postseason is another level. Teams that get beat 3-0 and 3-1 aren't victims of "SSS randomness," IMO.

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The postseason is another level. Teams that get beat 3-0 and 3-1 aren't victims of "SSS randomness," IMO.

We'll just need to agree to disagree then. Three or four games, compared to a 162 game regular season, is the absolute epitome of SSS randomness. If Kansas City and Anaheim played their series three weeks earlier, for example, Anaheim was scorching the earth and KC was scuffling a bit. That series probably turns out different. As it was, they met at a time when Anaheim had cooled and the Royals were in a good run of form.

Three of the four best teams in MLB during the regular season are gone from the postseason after one round. There is nothing anyone can tell me that says this is a good thing for the sport.

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To Cardinals fans: Congratulations, sincerely. It must be fun to be so spoiled and root for a team with awesome uniforms and a cool ballpark.

My envy is unbreakable. I doubt I will ever know how this feels.

Indians fans used to feel the same way.

 

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The postseason is another level. Teams that get beat 3-0 and 3-1 aren't victims of "SSS randomness," IMO.

We'll just need to agree to disagree then. Three or four games, compared to a 162 game regular season, is the absolute epitome of SSS randomness. If Kansas City and Anaheim played their series three weeks earlier, for example, Anaheim was scorching the earth and KC was scuffling a bit. That series probably turns out different. As it was, they met at a time when Anaheim had cooled and the Royals were in a good run of form.

Three of the four best teams in MLB during the regular season are gone from the postseason after one round. There is nothing anyone can tell me that says this is a good thing for the sport.

I love it personally. Parity is great, it means new faces and exciting stories. To be honest, that is why I watch sports, for the narrative and the fun of guessing who'll make it and who won't. I don't really care about seeing the two best teams face off all the time, although that is fun as well don't get me wrong. For that reason I am rooting hard for the Royals even if they don't "deserve" it for not winning their division etc.

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The postseason is another level. Teams that get beat 3-0 and 3-1 aren't victims of "SSS randomness," IMO.

We'll just need to agree to disagree then. Three or four games, compared to a 162 game regular season, is the absolute epitome of SSS randomness. If Kansas City and Anaheim played their series three weeks earlier, for example, Anaheim was scorching the earth and KC was scuffling a bit. That series probably turns out different. As it was, they met at a time when Anaheim had cooled and the Royals were in a good run of form.

Three of the four best teams in MLB during the regular season are gone from the postseason after one round. There is nothing anyone can tell me that says this is a good thing for the sport.

I agree with everything you say. But this is the case in most sports...if not the "SSS" issue, certainly the "getting hot at the right time" issue. It's why the NHL playoffs are such a crap-shoot; one hot goalie can turn the entire postseason on its head. The Wild Card Vikings once won a playoff game in Lambeau. Why? Because anything can happen in one game. Obviously football has an "SSS" issue that can't be helped. Nobody has a worse "SSS" issue than the NCAA Basketball tournament, which lets in a bunch of mediocre teams and has a one-and-done format.

Certainly, I'd argue the Angels are better than the Royals. But the Royals were playing better "right now". It's what makes sports fun. And what makes 'em unfair. I guess I am not saying much except for "you are right, but it's not a bad thing." All they can do is make sure the setting of the playoff field makes sense, which it won't some day when a "5-seed" gets to start its ace in a one game playoff vs. a better team that did not set its rotation because it was playing for its Division. That wild card game is (to steal your phrase) the absolute epitome of "SSS randomness."

The problem with baseball, more than the other sports, is the "starting pitcher" problem. It's a different team with the ace on the hill vs. the third starter. Given that we are always going to have "SSS" issues, I don't know that there is much to do about it...except maybe cut to 154 games so the AL/NLDS can be best of 7 and still finish in October.

Best of 5 lends itself more to bad luck about rotation-setting. Best of 7 helps some, though one would figure on KC winning one of those next four games.

My suggestion would be to:

  • Have the old 154-game schedule
  • Go back to the four wild card teams
  • All series be best-of-seven.

But I also know this only marginally improves things; we are not going back to the pre-1961 format. It would be more fair but also not terribly interesting most years.

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So..... anyone still cheering for a NL team now?

The majority of us are rooting for two asteroids to hit San Francisco and St. Louis, so that the ALCS winner becomes the de-facto World Series champion.

I could live with that.

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