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I'm beating a really dead horse at this point...

The Angels and Nationals were better teams over the course of six months. The Royals and Giants were better teams over the course of four days. If this is how people like their championship teams decided, well, more power to you. It's not like my protestations are going to change anything; it's just blubber from a perpetual malcontent with a deadset agenda on this topic.

The Angels also got to play Houston and Texas 24-26 more times (I'm not counting the exact number) than Kansas City. The Nationals got to play 76 :censored: ing games against 4 sub-.500 teams. Between the unbalanced schedule and the random chance that is inherent in baseball, I'd say even the 10 game spread between the Royals and Angels is within the margin-of-error for determining which team is "superior."

I'm not enough of a baseball fan to say, but I've been thinking the same thing throughout the thread -- these teams aren't playing the same competition. It may be similar, but the unbalanced schedule means teams in bad divisions will have more wins than teams in competitive divisions.

This actually makes the Angels' collapse all the more surprising -- they played in a good division. The M's landed a game out of the Wild Card, and for a while, the A's, M's and Angels all had playoff spots.

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And because of the way MLB scheduled games, the Angels had three days off before facing the Royals and the Nats had to sit around for four days before their first game against the Giants. That's not fair to the teams with the best records in each league. Baseball isn't football; a long layoff isn't always helpful. I get that they want to reward division winners and punish the wild cards, but they need to fix the scheduling or just get rid of the wild card game.

Keep the wild card game, get rid of the travel days before and after said wild card game. Problem solved.

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Break away from the whole financial benefit for the owners having the current WC+2 format for a moment.

How's about only the division winners advance to the postseason, with no wildcards at all? No exception. You'd then have the team in each league with the best record be the #1 seed, receive a bye from the DS and automatically advance to the LCS, while the other two division winners (#2 and #3 seeds) play in the Division Series first, with the winner of that playing the #1 in the LCS. Playoff-seeding tiebreakers are head-to-head records between division champions, while the only actual tiebreaker games (Game 163) played are to settle un solved division races at the end of the season.

Feasible?

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Break away from the whole financial benefit for the owners having the current WC+2 format for a moment.

How's about only the division winners advance to the postseason, with no wildcards at all? No exception. You'd then have the team in each league with the best record be the #1 seed, receive a bye from the DS and automatically advance to the LCS, while the other two division winners (#2 and #3 seeds) play in the Division Series first, with the winner of that playing the #1 in the LCS. Playoff-seeding tiebreakers are head-to-head records between division champions, while the only actual tiebreaker games (Game 163) played are to settle un solved division races at the end of the season.

Feasible?

I think you'd see the 1 seed lose the majority of the time. The off time for that team to wait for 2 vs. 3 would do it a disservice. Baseball is about rhythm; getting an extra day off may help rest some arms, etc. Getting an extra week off will add rust. Byes only work in one-and-done situations like football and college hoops conference tournaments.

You need a wild card team in the three-division structure.

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It's appropriate the orange and black team will have there parade on Halloween. Unlike the last 2 though, it's suppose to pour in the city.

Interesting fact: Omar Infante has been a victim of 4 of the last 5 Champion teams.

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Since the series ended, Kershaw/MadBum comparisons to Msnning/Brady have lit Twitter and social media ablaze.

The funny thing is that Kerahaw actually isn't that bad against the Giants. His issues are with a different team.

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Isn't that bad against the Giants? He downright KILLS the Giants. I don't think a single pitcher on that staff has more than 1 win against him total.

I remember opening day last season where he and Matt Cain pitched scoreless into the 8th, and Kershaw, of all people, hit the game winning home run off of the Giants first reliever. That was the ONLY game I've seen where a Giants starter went blow for blow with him all game and he STILL got the win.

Oh, but, thank you, St. Louis.

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings- basically sandbags it just enough when the games don't matter? In the summer, he was MehBum.

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings

SHUT THE FUUUUCK UP

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings- basically sandbags it just enough when the games don't matter? In the summer, he was MehBum.

http://www.legion-recrute.com/

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That's how the playoff system works. Sometimes? The best teams don't win.

Which is exactly my point. The fact that the Royals and Giants were in the World Series doesn't mean they were the best teams. Were they good? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? Yes. Were they the best teams in baseball this year? Eh....probably not. Playoffs have a large element of randomness. There's nothing wrong with that. But it does mean that we really shouldn't make grand declarations about the greatness (or lack thereof) because they won (or failed to win) 11 or 12 games in a month.

I'm not enough of a baseball fan to say, but I've been thinking the same thing throughout the thread -- these teams aren't playing the same competition. It may be similar, but the unbalanced schedule means teams in bad divisions will have more wins than teams in competitive divisions.

This actually makes the Angels' collapse all the more surprising -- they played in a good division. The M's landed a game out of the Wild Card, and for a while, the A's, M's and Angels all had playoff spots.

For what it's worth, the effect of the unbalanced schedule is about 1 game in the standings for the worst teams. In the case of the M's, maybe they finish in the playoffs with a balanced schedule, but maybe they still finish a game out. Source

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings- basically sandbags it just enough when the games don't matter? In the summer, he was MehBum.

No. This is stupid. Using a pitchers W-L record to determine if they're good or not is about the biggest telltale sign that you either 1) are an absolute hater 2) don't understand how baseball works 3) a combination of both. Just look at Felix Hernandez in 2010. He was 13-12, but that had so much more to do with the dismal run support he got. And what does the regular season even matter? MadBum has pitched 30 innings in the World Series and has given up a single solitary run on one meaningless deep fly when his team was up a touchdown. That's downright legendary. And it's not like this is Ryan Vogelsong who's done that, either. Madison Bumgarner is probably a solid candidate for second best pitcher in the NL, and may even be top 5 in the whole league.

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings

SHUT THE FUUUUCK UP

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It's staggering to think that this guy who is now the greatest thing since sliced bread lost TEN TIMES in the regular season.

Is he like the LA Kings- basically sandbags it just enough when the games don't matter? In the summer, he was MehBum.

http://www.legion-recrute.com/
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Now that the World Series is over, Alex Rodriguez is back!

Really looking forward to what the tightest pants in baseball can do next year, 30 + 100 you think ?

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Renteria was just fired by the Cubs, so the inevitable Maddon hire is basically complete.

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It seems strange that the Cubs fired him, explicitly said in the statement that it was only because of Maddon becoming available, but didn't say that they had hired Maddon. You would think that they wouldn't fire him until they had Maddon signed. I'm immediately reminded of the Bears bungling the hiring of Dave McGinnis, announcing him as the coach before he had actually agreed to it, followed by him signing with Arizona. If the Cubs don't have Maddon signed and he decides to go elsewhere, they are going to have a whole bunch of egg on their faces. Just a thought, but I'm sure that even the worst organization (generally speaking) wouldn't make the same mistake after seeing an in-town team do it 15 years earlier.

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It's better that they fired him now rather than failing to get Maddon and then having to go back, tail tucked, with Renteria still manager. That would have been the worst-case scenario, one that I thought for all the world the bumbling Rickettses would pull off.

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Press conference will be on Monday. They need the weekend to expand the clubhouse for Maddon's dozen truckloads of Spunky Baseball Fun Shenanigans

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It's better that they fired him now rather than failing to get Maddon and then having to go back, tail tucked, with Renteria still manager. That would have been the worst-case scenario, one that I thought for all the world the bumbling Rickettses would pull off.

At least they could have either denied that they were after Maddon or just said, "Well, Renteria is good but Maddon's the best. We thought we had to take a chance with a talent like Maddon, but think Rick did a great job." So they fired a manager who by all accounts did a pretty good job. If they somehow wiff on Maddon, they're probably going to end up with a worse manager than the one they had. It could be like leaving Zooey Deschanel for Katy Perry, but ending up with Lisa Kudrow.

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