hugevolsfan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I would curve the neck down a whole lot more instead of coming to a sharp point. My Fictional Football League Version 3 My Fictional Football Leagues WebsiteMy Church Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I've noticed that as you rotate the angle of the logo, it starts to take the shape of the outline of Missouri. Maybe that's an idea you can play around with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmiller5 Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 TVIXX, I will work on a full body logo, but I want to get this one done first.I've noticed that as you rotate the angle of the logo, it starts to take the shape of the outline of Missouri. Maybe that's an idea you can play around with?Since I teach at a school in Alabama, it probably won't be a direction I will follow. But thanks for the interest.I would curve the neck down a whole lot more instead of coming to a sharp point.I may have to come back to this idea, but for now I am going to go with different points. I'm trying to get a dimension of movement and fierceness to the ram that has been lacking.Is the new neck and points working? If not, is the problem with the idea or the execution? Do you have suggestions about how to make the face look more aggressive without overdoing it? Is the eye looking somewhat lazy to anyone else, or is it just me?I also adjusted the head/neck join spot and the horn detail. A sharper point on the horn is still coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YelichGraphics Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 eye has to be fixed, and the new neck is a little too shocking, just keep the origanal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveCRO Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 yeah, keep the neck from previous version (last one on first page). And yeah, eye really does need fixing. Right now it looks like this ram is about to go to sleep (hence the non aggressive look) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewp80 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yeah what's up with all the spikes coming off the neck? Cardinals -- Rams -- Blues -- Tigers -- Liverpool Check out my music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmiller5 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Yeah what's up with all the spikes coming off the neck?I was trying to show movement. I got the idea from Fairfield University's logo.Here are a few more options. I went with a more classic curve, which probably works better with the curves of the head.This version includes part of the ram's shoulder:I also decided to also try a jagged edge one. I'm not really loving it, but here it is anyhow:Please let me know what you prefer. Does the addition of the shoulder help the logo or not? Does the curve or a jagged edge work better (even if I haven't nailed the idea on this attempt)?On all of these logos there are some slight issues with the outline. I would clean that up for a final version, but didn't for these screen shots.I will still work on the eye and the horn. If you have any good suggestions on these or other areas, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coco1997 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Since I teach at a school in Alabama, it probably won't be a direction I will follow. But thanks for the interest.Sorry, David. I could've sworn I remember you saying you lived in Missouri. I must have assumed incorrectly because you're a Royals fan. I like the second head design because it conveys more movement. It's not as angular-looking as the other two.Here's a suggestion to consider: How about adding stitching and making the horn of the ram into a baseball? Here's a very crappy mock-up of what I mean:Granted this is really rough. Now that I look at it again, the stitching would probably look better with either the navy or medium blue color of the rest of the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmiller5 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 I got some feedback from the school, and I think we are going to go with the shoulder/neck. I have updated the horn and the eye. It still seems as if there is something a bit off about the eye, but I can't place what it is.If you have any suggestions or comments, please let me know. I still really want feedback. (If you have any good ideas of what to do with the ear, that is my biggest concern at this point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derschwigg Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's looking so good! Your progress is exceptional!If I were you (regarding the ear), I'd make the grey patch navy, and make your white highlight grey. That way, the ear is implied, but not explicit. My Portfolio | My Store | My Self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 David, try positioning the pupil at the other end of the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean F&F Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Latest update looks good.As for the eye, have it so it is looking forward. There should be some space between the pupil and the left (or bottom) of the eye and maybe only half of the pupil visible.I don't know if that makes sense how I said it, but basically this pic is what I'm trying to explain. https://fandfsports.wordpress.com/Hockey Uniform Templates (Gimp/Photoshop) http://seanff.deviantart.com/gallery/52790653/Devious-Folder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIXX Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Loving it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOtis Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Hi David,I agree that you really made some great progress. You now are close to the correct anatomics. In my opinion there are still some things to fix as I think that you would like to get an intimidating feel to it and that's missing so far. Right now it still looks a bit like it's just lying around. I think you have three things to work on:1. The eyes - the Ram is facing an opponent. So first of all you need an evil eye like the eagle has (which Sean posted). Plus - for the pupil: it should really be facing the opponent so keep that in mind with the evil eye. 2. The neckline + shoulder: The neckline is too straight right now and for suggesting a more muscular Ram it won't be the shoulder but some kind of a hump that the neckline should be rising up to. That way you will probably get more tension into the whole logo and get rid of the sleepy effect. 3. The snout: To add to the evil eye the snout could show some angry looking teeth like the Sarnia Sting bee for example. With the horns there could still be some cleanup done but I believe that at first you should get to the right expression that you have in mind. Hope that I could help a bit and that I assumed correct about your intention. All the best wishesDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren69 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Your latest version is coming along nicely, not sure how I feel about the gray horn & that blue stroke you have in between the two horns though. I would probably try making the gray area blue to flow better with the rest of the design. The white horn should still give you the separation your looking for & allow you to have the white outline around the whole logo instead of it ending at the forehead. Just an idea that may or may not work but I would definitely try myself. https://www.behance.net/Ren1969 https://twitter.com/Ren1969_Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scorcho Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Love the progress here. As others have said, it's important that the ram be looking forwards. At the moment it looks a bit like it's bowing it's head.I would rotate the whole thing a little bit counterclockwise and have the eye looking forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmiller5 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thanks to all for the comments. It's really helping me out. I worked on the ear, eye, and mouth. Someone else who gave me feedback suggested I go with a thin navy outline inside the light blue stroke. If I do go with the double blue outlines, should I thicken the light blue back to the same weight it was before?What do you think of the changes? Should they be tweaked?I also want to make sure it looks good as a one-color logo. Here is what I currently have:Daniel, you mentioned that the straight part of the neck before the hump should be changed. The straight line doesn't look quite right to me either, but I can't figure out what to do with it. Does anyone have any ideas of what to do with that line?Scorcho, I am trying to keep from rotating the logo because I do want to work on a full-body logo that will extend from this logo. That being said, I will work on getting this logo looking the best it can before I worry too much about the full-body logo. But I will keep the rotation the way it is for now.Ren, I didn't see your comment until after I had this update. I will try working on the horn this evening. Someone else suggested getting rid of the back horn and fattening up the front horn some. Is this a good idea? I will admit that I'm not sure what direction I should go with the horn (it and the top of the neck are giving me the most questions right now).(Here is the reference picture again if it helps with feedback.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIXX Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I would lose the back horn too and fatten up the horn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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