hockey week Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 don't we have enough red teams already?9 red-first teams, 5 black-first teams, 9 blue-first teams. And I didn't include Arizona or Colorado in that list, and I'm sure some would include at least one of thoseOttawa will put that balance up to 10 red, clearly in the lead. Do we really need that?Nevermind, I was looking at those old thirds and suggestions for reusing their original jerseys and for whatever reason I had Ottawa in black again. My bad. I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ottawa's already red though. So it's not like we're gaining a red team. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 You're right, I saw that old third and was thinking about their originals and got mixed up.Still too many red teams...barberpole or it's crap! I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinturner95 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Detroit busting out the teasers. I see this and think, "Oh they are going to just wear the normal reds with bigger numbers" and they'll unveil it and it'll be half red and half white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 You're right, I saw that old third and was thinking about their originals and got mixed up.Still too many red teams...barberpole or it's crap!Just because barber pole was acceptable in the 20's, when there were only a handful of other teams, and every team had just one uniform, doesn't mean it would work well now. Whether they go with black or red doesn't matter as long as the uniform is well designed. The inaugural look and its variations made black work but I'm willing to bet the designs would be equally effective in red. Opposite goes for the previously posted, alternate from 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Ottawa 67s make the barberpole work.And enough with the Roman theme. It's tenuous at best. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ROY Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Ottawa 67s make the barberpole work.And enough with the Roman theme. It's tenuous at best.I wouldn't want them to just copy the local junior team. The "barberpole" on the Heritage jerseys suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Off to an OK start... Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (CHL - 2018 Orr Cup Champions) Chicago Rivermen (UBA/WBL - 2014, 2015, 2017 Intercontinental Cup Champions) King's Own Hexham FC (BIP - 2022 Saint's Cup Champions) Portland Explorers (EFL - Elite Bowl XIX Champions) Real San Diego (UPL) Red Bull Seattle (ULL - 2018, 2019, 2020 Gait Cup Champions) Vancouver Huskies (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Ottawa 67s make the barberpole work.And enough with the Roman theme. It's tenuous at best.What's tenuous is putting a 'Times New Roman 'O' on two stripes and calling it a logo... What the 67's use is just as bad. This bizarre fetishization of generic letters on barber pole stripes, just because everything retro has magically become good, is confounding. Theres no good way to depict a "Senator" literally which is why the roman theme is necessary for an interesting and dynamic mark. They already have the perfect logo in their arsenal anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But that O logo wasn't made up out of thin air. Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (CHL - 2018 Orr Cup Champions) Chicago Rivermen (UBA/WBL - 2014, 2015, 2017 Intercontinental Cup Champions) King's Own Hexham FC (BIP - 2022 Saint's Cup Champions) Portland Explorers (EFL - Elite Bowl XIX Champions) Real San Diego (UPL) Red Bull Seattle (ULL - 2018, 2019, 2020 Gait Cup Champions) Vancouver Huskies (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ottawa hockey has always had the barber pole. It's always been there in one form or another. When I did my alternate history, I tried to figure out when the old Senators would have dropped it, if they survived...and I really don't think they would have...it just would've been moved around.As seen here: http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/73848-what-if-the-original-senators-never-folded/Something in this vein would be fantastic and make everyone happy:Or you could go more modern and make everyone really really happy and do this:I still echo the Sens fans I talked to when the edge switchover happened: If the Senators are wearing anything but barberpole, it's crap. I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMW79 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Off to an OK start... The Wings logo on the shoulder is new. The current logo has red feathers with white outlines and the top of the wheel is white, as are the upper edges of the wings. The inverted version (white feathers, red outlines, red-topped wheel, red-edged wings) was retired in the early 80s. Take a close look at the stadium series version. It has white feathers with red outlines, but retains the white-topped wheel and white wing edges of the current logo. Interesting.As for the Sens, this would be perfect:Or you could go more modern and make everyone really really happy and do this:I still echo the Sens fans I talked to when the edge switchover happened: If the Senators are wearing anything but barberpole, it's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Or you could go more modern and make everyone really really happy and do this:I still echo the Sens fans I talked to when the edge switchover happened: If the Senators are wearing anything but barberpole, it's crap.This brings up the problem I have with the Senators' Roman logos on the barberpole template. Namely, the gold/laurel leaf pattern sticks out like a sore thumb. If the Sens went towards a barberpole design, the Roman logos would either have to shed the gold, or the barberpole would have to incorporate gold. Ultimately, a logo based around the "O" (either a basic "O" or the Peace Tower "O" logo hockey week made) should be paired with the barberpole.While I like the Roman theme (and the old black third), I admit that using it as the basis of the team's identity was one long mistake that the team only began to rectify after the Edge disaster. Once they eliminated the one good Roman uniform and removed the updated 2D logo, a lot of the reason for sticking with it went away. Unless a design based on the old black third came out and looked fantastic, barberpole is the way to go. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMW79 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Has anyone seen/done a silver recolor of the Sens logo? It might work, and it would be a great nod to the Silver Seven. I think the only downside would be that the Hurricanes are already red, black, and silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianLion Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ottawa is one of the few teams I wouldn't mind being more black. Bring back these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 But that O logo wasn't made up out of thin air.Which elevates it from "meh" to "marvelous". Context is key. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Off to an OK start... The Wings logo on the shoulder is new. The current logo has red feathers with white outlines and the top of the wheel is white, as are the upper edges of the wings. The inverted version (white feathers, red outlines, red-topped wheel, red-edged wings) was retired in the early 80s. Take a close look at the stadium series version. It has white feathers with red outlines, but retains the white-topped wheel and white wing edges of the current logo. Interesting.I don't know... I still see red feathers. I think the camera blur is throwing you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMW79 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't know... I still see red feathers. I think the camera blur is throwing you off.Before posting here, I looked at a larger, clearer version of the same picture on a different site, and the feathers are definitely white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Or you could go more modern and make everyone really really happy and do this:I still echo the Sens fans I talked to when the edge switchover happened: If the Senators are wearing anything but barberpole, it's crap.This brings up the problem I have with the Senators' Roman logos on the barberpole template. Namely, the gold/laurel leaf pattern sticks out like a sore thumb. If the Sens went towards a barberpole design, the Roman logos would either have to shed the gold, or the barberpole would have to incorporate gold. Ultimately, a logo based around the "O" (either a basic "O" or the Peace Tower "O" logo hockey week made) should be paired with the barberpole.While I like the Roman theme (and the old black third), I admit that using it as the basis of the team's identity was one long mistake that the team only began to rectify after the Edge disaster. Once they eliminated the one good Roman uniform and removed the updated 2D logo, a lot of the reason for sticking with it went away. Unless a design based on the old black third came out and looked fantastic, barberpole is the way to go.Idk, you can have colors in logos that don't appear in the jersey. The Blackhawks prove that point with what feels like a few dozen colors.But I've thought of including a gold outline on the numbers to tie it together. That should be enough to tie it all together. However, the point is there, best possible logo on best possible jerseys I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't know... I still see red feathers. I think the camera blur is throwing you off.Before posting here, I looked at a larger, clearer version of the same picture on a different site, and the feathers are definitely white.nope https://www.andrewsterlachini.com/ or http://dribbble.com/MEANS1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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