Guest darkpiranha Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Love this, but agreed that the logo is too dark, especially if the home jersey is going to remain black. Also agreed that the trees on the bottom are cool, but just slightly too busy. Maybe minimalizing them a bit more and/or sublimating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Can't see the concept because I'm on a kindle, but Lumberjacks is not a good identity for Milwaukee. The timber industry is on the opposite end of the state.Eh, good point. To be fair, they're an Original Ten team, so it could have been one of those quirks that ended up staying. It's the thought for the state that counts, right? (Meta: I originally had this team in the Twin Cities, and I decided on the name while they were still there.)It's your series and the decision is ultimately yours, but I would highly suggest you put this team back in Minnesota. Now that I actually see the concept (great work BTW, just not for Milwaukee), I can tell you there is NO WAY that alternate logo would work for a Milwaukee team. The implication that Wisconsin is an exclusively rural state is a very sore issue here, and for as much noise as urban Wisconsinites made about the design that was chosen for the state quarter, I can't see the Milwaukee community embracing a logo that contains a farm house. Putting the team back in Minnesota runs into the same problem. There's also this implication of Minnesota equaling rural forest area, as evidenced by the Timberwolves and the Wild. (Although I guess Lumberjacks makes a little more sense given the history of the Twin Cities as a timber hub) Even when the majority of the area is rural farmland and the majority of the population is in a concentrated area of counties (Wisconsin is different in that regard because you have larger cities like Madison and Green Bay) I'm genuinely curious: how do the Brewers/Bucks cater to Madison and Green Bay via their identities?The urban/rural divide isn't unique to Wisconsin or Minnesota; it's a nationwide thing (particularly in the Midwest). I like this conversation, getting to the bare bones of city/state identities as it relates to sports teams. Good stuff. But we should maybe bring this elsewhere so as to not derail this (excellent) thread. I agree, and I wouldn't object if a mod wanted to start another thread for it.But the fact that (as you mentioned) the Twin Cities actually have a history with the timber industry by itself makes this identity more appropriate for a team based there. I also think the nature of the Twin Cities' market in having to unify two historically rival cities... and thus tending to be named for the entire state rather than the cities themselves... opens them up to adopting identities more in line with rural Minnesota as to not favor one of the cities over the other. Personally, I'd like to see more teams in the Twin Cities adopt more locally-centered identities. Perhaps we'll see that when they get a MLS side.While the urban-rural divide is hardly unique to Wisconsin, I do think it's more pronounced here than in most places... and the dysfunctional sh~tshow that has been our state politics for the past 4 years has made it even worse. I could go into more details, but I'll save that for the spin-off thread if it happens.As far as what the Brewers do to cater to outstaters. For one, they built Miller Park where County Stadium was, in the middle of nowhere surrounded by freeways, insetad of downtown where the locals wanted it. They also put "Brewers" rather than "Milwaukee" on their road jerseys. Historically, they've also usually had a logo that featured an outline of Wisconsin in whatever identity package they've been using. But even then, they saw little support outside of Milwaukee and its suburbs until they affiliated with the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers. Now the Brewers have a decent following in the Fox Valley. But the western parts of the state are still more loyal to the Minnesota teams... except for the Packers and Badgers... the teams that don't play in Milwaukee.The Bucks used to play games at the UW Fieldhouse (Madison) and the Brown County Arena (Green Bay), but they've never had much of a following in other parts of Wisconsin. In fact, they have the most localized fanbase of all the Wisconsin teams. Outside of the Bucks name... a reference to the official Wisconsin state wildlife animal (not to be confused with the official state animal, the badger)... they've never really branched outside of the Milwaukee media market the way the Brewers have.At least if Milwaukee were to have a hockey team, they could concievably put an AHL affiliate in Green Bay or Madison (but more likely Green Bay, since I don't see a Madison AHL team outdrawing the Badgers). Anyway, sorry to threadjack. But hopefully my perspective is of some use to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Due to feedback, i think i will take out the forest graphic from Milwaukee, it would uncrowd it a bit...plus i can repurpose that for a future team where it would possibly be more appropriate. Boston is on deck and should be finished up by tomorrow. ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknes Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute man ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknes Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute manMy Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute manMy Apologies.No need to apologize...it will be up soon! ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macalesterscots Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute manOh I get it! Minuteman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbroalexander Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 No need to keep asking when teams are coming. Just have patience.....gaaaaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit faces of them Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute man Oh I get it! Minuteman. don't mean its gonna be that name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJimmy Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 BOSTON MINUTEMENEstablished: 1947-48 SeasonGarand Cups: 3 (1958-59, 1966-67, 2005-06)Finals Appearances: 6 (1954-55, 1955-56, 1957-58, 1958-59, 1966-67, 2005-06)Arena: Harvard Coliseum, Cambridge, Massachusetts (Capacity: 19,600)Three Famous Players: Ted Lindsay, Steven Stamkos (current), Martin BrodeurCurrent Captain: Steven StamkosGoal Song: "(You Can Still) Rock In America" - Night RangerMascot: Minute Man (a cartoonized Revolutionary War militia fighter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit faces of them Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ok I take that last comment back. Im an utter idiot. Great job btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ooh Any Hints on what Boston's theme might be?just give me a minute manOh I get it! Minuteman. +1 ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbroalexander Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I like the Boston identity, love the logo, and I really like the M in Minutemen. Only thing I don't like is the blank socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknes Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Alright thats a cool look for Boston. I honestly was expecting Max Pacioretty or PK Subban as the Captain as a cruel twist of teams...not that I'm complaining about Stamkos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 also worth noting...13 stars on the uniform ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit faces of them Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Not asking who's next but who's left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarperK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Well Im going to go to Toronto, then St. Louis, then over to Vancouver, back to Chicago, stop by Philadelphia on the way to Washington DC.... ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit faces of them Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Well Im going to go to Toronto, then St. Louis, then over to Vancouver, back to Chicago, stop by Philadelphia on the way to Washington DC....not funny =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rykochristie Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Love the font on this one Fear the future, envy the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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