CreamSoda Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 @Thomas Look, its real simple. The NHL and the NHLPA will probably not play in the Olympics again. Would you rather have no World Cup or would you rather have the World Cup of Hockey with all the NHL stars . Those are your two options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 18 minutes ago, CreamSoda said: @Thomas Look, its real simple. The NHL and the NHLPA will probably not play in the Olympics again. Would you rather have no World Cup or would you rather have the World Cup of Hockey with all the NHL stars . Those are your two options. I'd rather have a World Cup that's an actual World Cup, which means nations competing against each other, not pointless gimmicky teams created by the NHL. Simply make it a 10 or 12 team tournament to give it some legitimacy. There's next to zero buzz about this tournament, even here in Toronto, and absolutely no international interest whatsoever. If it's as big of a dud as it's shaping up to be, it will be another 12 years before they try to trot it out again, Olympics or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The plan is to have the Europe and U-23 teams be one-time deals, have all national teams for the next tournament, and eventually institute some sort of play-in structure for lower-ranked teams. In other words, a full-on world championship tournament. But I'm sure you'll still complain that you won't be able to see the world's best and brightest skating in Pyeongchang at 4:15am local time, even though the Olympics will still likely offer a very compelling U-23 tourney without NHL participation. You are getting more hockey. Why is this bad? Because pros won't get to fulfill the Olympic Ideal of pure, amateur national competition? Have you read anything[/i] about the IOC in the last twenty years? On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 hour ago, vman said: I'd rather have a World Cup that's an actual World Cup, which means nations competing against each other, not pointless gimmicky teams created by the NHL. Simply make it a 10 or 12 team tournament to give it some legitimacy. There's next to zero buzz about this tournament, even here in Toronto, and absolutely no international interest whatsoever. If it's as big of a dud as it's shaping up to be, it will be another 12 years before they try to trot it out again, Olympics or not. Gotta start somewhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Sodboy13 said: The plan is to have the Europe and U-23 teams be one-time deals, have all national teams for the next tournament, and eventually institute some sort of play-in structure for lower-ranked teams. In other words, a full-on world championship tournament. But I'm sure you'll still complain that you won't be able to see the world's best and brightest skating in Pyeongchang at 4:15am local time, even though the Olympics will still likely offer a very compelling U-23 tourney without NHL participation. You are getting more hockey. Why is this bad? Because pros won't get to fulfill the Olympic Ideal of pure, amateur national competition? Have you read anything[/i] about the IOC in the last twenty years? This is exactly how I look at it. I can deal with the Young Guns and the European Leftovers teams. But this could turn into a good world tournament every 4 years. I liked olympic hockey when it was amateurs so I will still watch that. Hell, I watch the World Juniors Championship every December. More international hockey, the better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I probably already mentioned, yet I'd like the World Cup to be 10-12 teams. 2 groups of 6, top 3 advance, 1st place gets a bye. Easy peasy. World Jrs should play in the Olympics every time. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Ten would work. Twelve would be ideal. USA, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Czech Republic. Plus, I'm sure that teams from Slovakia, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, etc. could field competitive teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldconcepts Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 On August 18, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Thomas said: Seeing that pic does it for me, I'm in love with those Canadian jerseys. If only there weren't those three stripes! Twitter: @ldconcepts / Instagram: @ld.concepts / Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4One Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 6 hours ago, jmac11281 said: Ten would work. Twelve would be ideal. USA, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Czech Republic. Plus, I'm sure that teams from Slovakia, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, etc. could field competitive teams. They can't, which is part of the reason why there is a team Europe. There is truly only 6 top hockey countries and then there's everyone else. That isn't to say the tournament shouldn't expand, but just don't expect those other countries to actually have a shot at winning this thing or even coming close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, M4One said: They can't, which is part of the reason why there is a team Europe. There is truly only 6 top hockey countries and then there's everyone else. That isn't to say the tournament shouldn't expand, but just don't expect those other countries to actually have a shot at winning this thing or even coming close. I wouldn't expect any of those teams that I mentioned to win or finish top 3 but they could at least be competitive. To be fair, Young Guns and European Leftovers have no shot either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chcarlson23 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 hours ago, jmac11281 said: I wouldn't expect any of those teams that I mentioned to win or finish top 3 but they could at least be competitive. To be fair, Young Guns and European Leftovers have no shot either. I don't know about those teams not having a chance. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by the NAu23 team... I think they'll give the rest of the teams a run for their money, EVEN if they don't win... "And those who know Your Name put their trust in You, for You, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You." Psalms 9:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Canada is obviously a juggernaut, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Team North America finish second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Adidas stripes + Washington Capitals stars from their early 90´s jersey !? This jersey has stars and stripes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreamSoda Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 52 minutes ago, Thomas said: Adidas stripes + Washington Capitals stars from their early 90´s jersey !? This jersey has stars and stripes ! You really like Roenick eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Thomas said: Adidas stripes + Washington Capitals stars from their early 90´s jersey !? This jersey has stars and stripes ! Uh you know that's 2 jerseys on top of each other right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 11 hours ago, CreamSoda said: You really like Roenick eh? don´t tell anyone, i might start crying like him when the hawks won the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 On 2016-08-19 at 4:31 PM, M4One said: They can't, which is part of the reason why there is a team Europe. There is truly only 6 top hockey countries and then there's everyone else. That isn't to say the tournament shouldn't expand, but just don't expect those other countries to actually have a shot at winning this thing or even coming close. They can, that's why the Olympic quarterfinals had a bunch of teams that are not in this tournament but were competitive and entertaining. If the NHL want's a 6 nation tournament that's fine, but don't call it the World Cup, call it the Six Nation Cup, because the world is not there and doesn't care. Sure, there may be some occasional blowouts with more teams, but there were massive blowouts in the NBA Finals too, when only the best teams were on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 They even have 50 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkychewbarky Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Here's a couple of the uniforms "in action" from last night's game. NA23's vs Europe... *The Battle of Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1409 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, sparky chewbarky said: Here's a couple of the uniforms "in action" from last night's game. NA23's vs Europe... Ugly and underwhelming... The young guns with so much focus on orange on their merchandise are particularly bland and lifeless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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