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Off topic: I've been reading these things on ESPN.com about "fixing the playoffs" so the WC teams aren't just one-game and done.

What if, for purposes of playoffs, the regular season ended 1 week earlier. So the weekend prior to the last real weekend is when divisions are wrapped up, even though there's still games left on the schedule. Those games are more/less just exhibitions, or opportunities for the division winners to stay in a rhythm.

Then, for the WC teams, the schedule gets re-shuffled so that they can play a full best of 5 series during that final week, and then the full playoffs starts and ends at the normal time.

It would impact whatever teams were scheduled to play the WC teams during that final week, but that's relatively easy to work around.

Also, I'd count that WC series as part of the regular season, so players' stats are still for a full 162 games.

Ugh. I knew this crap was coming. I knew this :censored: was coming as soon as they announced the second wildcard. The Pirates were unfortunate enough to win 98 games and lose the play-in game, so now we need to make it a best of three. So it'll be a best of three for a few years, then the best record team will lose and blame it on being cold from sitting around an 4-5 days. Then they'll make it "fair" by giving the division winners an extra series and make it a 16 team playoff in a 30-team league. No :censored:ing way. I don't want to see a hypothetical 79-win White Sox make the playoffs. You don't have games EVERY DAY for six freaking months only to tell fans those games meant nothing and they now have to sit through two freaking months of playoffs, with the World Series ending on a 29 degree night in Cleveland the week before Thanksgiving.

You have to make the regular season mean something. I thought the previous format with one wildcard was perfect. It created parity, kept a bunch of teams in the running when their seasons otherwise would have been over in August, and made sense. But eight out of 30 teams is the absolute border. The second wildcard is a ridiculous idea. These teams aren't tied, but we're going to have a contrived faux-tiebreaker game for them. And it makes the regular season mean less. Think of how great the last week would have been if the Cubs and Pirates were fighting for the right to be the wildcard and not just for homefield? That would have been great.

Baseball said the justification for the second wildcard was to put the WC teams at a disadvantage, but that's crap. If they wanted to do so, they could easily make the wildcard play the entire LDS on the road. MLB just wanted the extra primetime game. It got enamored with the crazy ending in 2011 (which wouldn't have meant a thing if there was a second wildcard), and decided to run with this crap. Baseball walks a fine line with how many games per season. You have to make the regular season mean something. It sucks if you do great but miss the playoffs, but there has to be some cutoff. If the Cubs missed the playoffs with 97 wins, that would be misfortune. Not as much as the 1993 Giants, but it would suck. And if they put up the same record the next season, they'd almost certainly be in the playoffs. 162 games is more than enough to determine the four best teams in each league. You don't play for six months only to allow a thirdplace team in. And that's not a slight on the Cubs because they're a good team, but no third place team should have a shot at the playoffs. I don't want to see game in late August where the teams are resting because they have a spot locked up.

But soon enough we'll have a full four round playoff and MLB will continue to scratch its head and wonder why the playoff ratings continually go down. And instead of the embarrassment of a World Series game being doubled-up in the ratings by a freaking Titans-Jaguars slapfight, we'll get to the point of Thursday night ACC games beating the baseball playoffs in ratings.

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I think they can find a way to make the current Wild Card game work while still awarding the best teams. I kinda think they should just eliminate divisions altogether and just make a single table per league where the top 5 teams are seeded according to record rather than awarding teams for beating up on the Brewers/Phillies/Rockies/ect all year. They can still keep the current scheduling format, and of course teams within close proximity to each other play more games against each other, but there's no reason why we have to see teams like the 05 Padres make the playoffs simply because everyone else in their particular pool was well under .500 while the Phillies, Marlins, and Mets all sat home despite being better teams.

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Hell no to expanding beyond two wild card teams. If the Pirates lost a best of 3 with the Cubs, which they likely would have, they'd say it needs to be best of 5, 7, 9, 11, etc. until they won the stupid thing.

Long story short: Be better. Win your division. Field better teams.

Or even better, not field a defensive lineup against a pitcher who was in the midst of one of the best stretches in modern history.

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I still take the Cards over the field. The field has not won a World Series since 1993. So the Cards winning is really just how things usually go.

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Starting Hammel = loss. There's just no other way about it. Cubs will lose in St. Louis and the Cardinal fan peckerheads will rise up to laugh and make merry at Cub fan anguish, as is standard. Life ends.

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I liked Price coming in 'early' to relieve Dickey. Lefties on deck, Rangers itching for rallies, do or die.

The Jays' only other lefty, Aaron Loup, was away for a family emergency... yet no one knew about that because HAROLD REYNOLDS CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING & NOTHING to no one even in particular.

Brett Cecil is gone injured.

So before ppl pile on because omg David Price in relief, some context please.

Further - now the Jays have a fully rested & prepared bullpen for game 5, at home, indoors.

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I liked Price coming in 'early' to relieve Dickey. Lefties on deck, Rangers itching for a rallies, do or die.

The Jays' only other lefty, Aaron Loup, was away for a family emergency... yet no one knew about that because HAROLD REYNOLDS CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING & NOTHING to no one even in particular.

Brett Cecil is gone injured.

So before ppl pile on because omg David Price in relief, some context please.

Further - now the Jays have a fully rested & prepared bullpen for game 5, at home, indoors.

Toronto was up by 6 runs at the time. I'd take my chances my bullpen can handle a 6-run lead and use Price in Game 5.

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Here's what I'd do with playoffs if they went to 32 teams (You could do it now but divisions would be unbalanced):

I won't list divisions here because that crosses into Reel-line-mint territory.

8 team divisions

5 teams from each league make playoffs:

Division winners seeded 1-2

Wild cards 3-5

Then same format as now. Every seed has an advantage:

1st: play wild card game winner who burned best pitcher

2nd: home field in LDS

3rd: avoid wild card crapshoot game

4th: home in wild card crapshoot game

5th: should just be glad they get a chance to play another game

What I wish they would have done to put the wild card at a disadvantage would be to still have only for teams per league, extend LDS to best of seven, and give the best division winner five home games (1-2, 5-7). It extends the season but the would still be able to start LDS on Tuesday or Wednesday after season ends.

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I hate to dwell on this for so long. I know I sound like an annoying old bastard but thats the baseball I miss

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Unless it's early-onset Alzheimer's.

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Three more outs. I cannot wait to see how the Cardinals come back. Or is it how the Cubs blow it?

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Starting Hammel = loss. There's just no other way about it. Cubs will lose in St. Louis and the Cardinal fan peckerheads will rise up to laugh and make merry at Cub fan anguish, as is standard. Life ends.

There's something I'd like to say here, but I don't want every Cubs fan on these here boards to blame me if I'm wrong. (I won't be, but I'll respect whatever it is we respect when we're trying not to jinx something.) Suffice it to say that I'm still completely comfortable with a World Series prediction I made earlier in this thread.

I'm looking forward to your postgame post, Andy.

 

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Now, I know the audience around here, and I'm part of this audience, so while no one wants to say it, lets just acknowledge a little bit that the Cardinals, for being the best W-L team in baseball this season and being the first team in four years to win 100 or more in a single season, got dealt one hell of an awful hand for this 1st round. Their reward for being the best overall team this season? Face the second best overall team in the playoffs, in a best-of-5 series. Jeezus.

And if Chicago can hold on to finish this series, no one can even really call this an upset. It would be disingenuous. Chicago has been the best team in the NL in the 2nd half, something that isn't all that surprising given their roster composition. Young, highly talented teams tend to play better the longer the season goes. The Cubs have done precisely that. They're a better team than St. Louis is right now. Most people would agree with that. Most people would take Chicago's roster in this series over St. Louis. I know I have my "8 out of 14/15 teams to win 100+ in the LDS era have lost in the first round" stat, but I refuse to call losing in the first round to a team that won 97 games to be an "upset". Upsets are unexpected. Cynicism aside (hard to do!), would anyone have been shocked to see Chicago win this series? I doubt it.

St. Louis, for all their injuries this season, had a 100 win season, which is extremely difficult to do in this day and age in MLB. I'm loathe to do it, but they really deserve many plaudits for a successful season.

(Watch them win this in the 9th, now. Sorry. Most Cubbie fans here are 'Hawks fans. I may still have an axe to grind with the Blackhawks...)

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Starting Hammel = loss. There's just no other way about it. Cubs will lose in St. Louis and the Cardinal fan peckerheads will rise up to laugh and make merry at Cub fan anguish, as is standard. Life ends.

There's something I'd like to say here, but I don't want every Cubs fan on these here boards to blame me if I'm wrong. (I won't be, but I'll respect whatever it is we respect when we're trying not to jinx something.) Suffice it to say that I'm still completely comfortable with a World Series prediction I made earlier in this thread.

I'm looking forward to your postgame post, Andy.

OK, so what I wanted to say was that the Cubs were not going to lose this game. Cubbies had it all along.

Huns, consider yourselves vanquished.

 

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