TFoA Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 ESPN got denials from three of the five. The Raiders and Chargers refuse to sell, and the Vikings are hopeful about their new stadium deal. On the other hand, "Messages left with the Rams and Jaguars were not returned."Hmmm.calm down, sparkyThe article nailed it. If this was 2009, the Jags might be a serious candidate. But now, it's purely speculation.So that's now 4 denials. Looks like rams80's deep, dark, & dank conspiracy theories have shot to the top of the board in this race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 They have, but following the "can't get the team that was already here, take this other one you didn't ask for" trend established by the Hornets/Sonics and Coyotes/Thrashers, I expect the Rams to be saved at the expense of the Jaguars. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Why is anyone putting ANY stock into what an owner says about whether his team is moving or not? No owner is willing to risk the bad publicity right now of expressing an interest in leaving while also asking people to buy tickets for a season that may not happen. I guarantee you that no matter what they say publicly, all of these teams are licking their chops at the prospects of moving to LA. Or at the very least, leveraging that possibility for a new stadiumin their present locations. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Why is anyone putting ANY stock into what an owner says about whether his team is moving or not? No owner is willing to risk the bad publicity right now of expressing an interest in leaving while also asking people to buy tickets for a season that may not happen. I guarantee you that no matter what they say publicly, all of these teams are licking their chops at the prospects of moving to LA. Or at the very least, leveraging that possibility for a new stadiumin their present locations.Recent moves were done by owners who were doing nothing to hide their intentions. Weavers word is better than anyone else on here in regards to this situation. Why should the Jags move? They have a stadium, a committed owner, and a few games around the league were black out last year. Guess how many in Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Yeah, he's said that before. But why wouldn't he? He's not looking for a new stadium or concessions from the city, so there's no incentive for him to make a public show of moving.How long the league will let him stay in the market is another question altogether. Let's see if they can string together more than a single season without blackouts, or how many seats they have to tarp off to get there. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Yeah, he's said that before. But why wouldn't he? He's not looking for a new stadium or concessions from the city, so there's no incentive for him to make a public show of moving.How long the league will let him stay in the market is another question altogether. Let's see if they can string together more than a single season without blackouts, or how many seats they have to tarp off to get there.We will see but as of right now they are selling. Their non blackout streak is longer than a lot of other NFL teams. Until they start blacking out again there is no reason to think they will move. As o this second those four other teams have greater reasons to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I wouldn't exactly hold up Jacksonville as a model franchise. Keep tarping off those seats.... The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I wouldn't exactly hold up Jacksonville as a model franchise. Keep tarping off those seats....Even with the tarp they have more seats than the CHICAGO Bears. Big market. Actually, a lot of teams are using the Jags as a model on how to sell tickets. You see, they were very successful in avoiding blackouts during a record blackout year. It is so bad the NFL is allowing more teams to tarp this coming year. More 'model' than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 We'll see. Another bad season, and Weaver will start talking about Orlando again. Takes more than one mediocre year to lift a franchise.Regardless, still seems to me as though the Rams are the obvious candidiate. Then it becomes a question of which AFC team will eventually follow. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 We'll see. Another bad season, and Weaver will start talking about Orlando again. Takes more than one mediocre year to lift a franchise.Regardless, still seems to me as though the Rams are the obvious candidiate. Then it becomes a question of which AFC team will eventually follow.I wouldn't be surprised that talks do start up concerning the Jaguars if things don't keep going on an upward track. I also wouldn't 100% bank on an owner saying that he's going to stay, though Weaver appears more sincere than most NFL owners.As for the Rams, things aren't looking good for them. I don't see Kroenke jumping up to say that the Rams aren't going anywhere like Weaver. It's a few more years until we see a move by the Rams, but they may have very well jumped to the top in terms of most likely to move, and they're definitely in the Top 3. I still think that the Chargers have the easiest way to LA, while the Vikings are next with their stadium issues (though they've made some steps towards a new stadium). But, the Rams are right behind. AKA @LanRovr0 on Twitter LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I only have one issue with the Rams AND Jags moving to LA, and the issue is that it will give California FIVE pro football teams. Even with the population, I have to wonder if that's a bit overkill. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 LA should have just one team. The Raiders moving hurt the Rams immensely. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 LA should have just one team. The Raiders moving hurt the Rams immensely.How so? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I only have one issue with the Rams AND Jags moving to LA, and the issue is that it will give California FIVE pro football teams. Even with the population, I have to wonder if that's a bit overkill.All that matters is the metro areas, not the state boundaries. There are several metro areas that can support a team or two, therefore put them there. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I only have one issue with the Rams AND Jags moving to LA, and the issue is that it will give California FIVE pro football teams. Even with the population, I have to wonder if that's a bit overkill.All that matters is the metro areas, not the state boundaries. There are several metro areas that can support a team or two, therefore put them there.I understand that, but even as someone who lived in the LA/San Diego area, I'm not sure I buy the idea that 5 teams in the same state, hell, 3 in the same general area will be supported, no matter the size of the metro area. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 hell, 3 in the same general area will be supported, no matter the size of the metro area.If three in the same general area will all be supported, then the area should have three. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 We'll see. Another bad season, and Weaver will start talking about Orlando again. Takes more than one mediocre year to lift a franchise.He can talk Orlando all he wants, but no way do the Buccaneers ownership allow even a temporary neutral site option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 We'll see. Another bad season, and Weaver will start talking about Orlando again. Takes more than one mediocre year to lift a franchise.He can talk Orlando all he wants, but no way do the Buccaneers ownership allow even a temporary neutral site option.Of course they'd fight it. But the fact he had to even make the threat in the first place shows you how much trouble the Jags have been in. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadmanLA Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 LA should have just one team. The Raiders moving hurt the Rams immensely.How so?The Rams hurt themselves with their ineptitude in their last years in the area. Remember, the Rams leaving the Coliseum for Anaheim pre-dated the Raiders moving into the area by a couple of years. During the 13 years the two shared the metro area, the Raiders had better teams than the Rams, and actually did more to market themselves locally (even in the years after they went back to Oakland) than the Rams. Hell, there are many people who stopped being Rams fans once they left Los Angeles County and went across the Orange Curtain...some of them became Raider fans simply because they were the "local team". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Agreed, all of that was due to the Rams' ineptitude, not the Raiders.Doesn't reflect on Los Angeles as a two-team town, just that both teams need to be at least competent. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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