DarkJourney Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Update on City of Oakland and Raiders talks.I like this part of the article:Where would the $120 million come from? "That's a great question that we will probably not say anything about," Quan spokesman Sean Maher said - at least not until a deal is reached and made public.I'm glad I moved out of Alameda County years ago. Left right when the Raiders came back to Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't Oakland bankrupt or on the verge of it on top of still having $200 million to pay off the last stadium renovation from 20 years ago?How can they come close to justifying hundreds of millions for sports teams with the shoddy state of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Update on City of Oakland and Raiders talks.I like this part of the article:Where would the $120 million come from? "That's a great question that we will probably not say anything about," Quan spokesman Sean Maher said - at least not until a deal is reached and made public.The other fun part in the article is their mention of the A's. The plan calls for the Coliseum to be demolished. So if the Raiders get that stadium, the A's are either out on their ass or getting a shiny new park of their own. So go ahead and hike up that $120 million price tag. | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't Oakland bankrupt or on the verge of it on top of still having $200 million to pay off the last stadium renovation from 20 years ago?How can they come close to justifying hundreds of millions for sports teams with the shoddy state of the city.The $120 million Oakland would be responsible for under this deal is what they have left on the Coliseum's renovations. They (reportedly) wouldn't take on any new debt, only have to pay off what they already owe. As these deals go, it wouldn't be bad for the city. Setting aside the problem of the A's. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't Oakland bankrupt or on the verge of it on top of still having $200 million to pay off the last stadium renovation from 20 years ago?How can they come close to justifying hundreds of millions for sports teams with the shoddy state of the city.There are cities/municipalities, large and small, across the United States who are teetering on the same financial tightrope as Oakland (including San Jose). Don't get it twisted, retirement/pension issues (with accompanying healthcare costs), budget shortfalls, and deficits are far more common than you think nationwide. Ask Harrison,NJ, Bridgeview, IL or Chester, PA on how SSS have hurt their bottom lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't Oakland bankrupt or on the verge of it on top of still having $200 million to pay off the last stadium renovation from 20 years ago?How can they come close to justifying hundreds of millions for sports teams with the shoddy state of the city.The $120 million Oakland would be responsible for under this deal is what they have left on the Coliseum's renovations. They (reportedly) wouldn't take on any new debt, only have to pay off what they already owe.As these deals go, it wouldn't be bad for the city. Setting aside the problem of the A's.Allegedly, the Athletics have offered to pay that $120 million in exchange for land to build a privately funded park. Source.The Athletics' owners, Lew Wolff and John Fisher, have informally floated their own development proposal which calls for them to absorb the $120 million in current Coliseum debt and provides them land on which to construct offices, hotels and residential buildings, the profits of which would help pay for a privately-financed ballpark. Of course, that plan leaves out any Raiders' stadium. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Very interesting. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Good luck City of Oakland and Alameda County. This will all fall through and the NFL & Raiders will probably announce they're moving to L.A. in March or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Good luck City of Oakland and Alameda County. This will all fall through and the NFL & Raiders will probably announce they're moving to L.A. in March or something. Which is likely to be 3 or 4 months after the Rams announce their move. AKA @LanRovr0 on Twitter LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I don't think a team would be allowed to announce until after the Super Bowl. It would steal too much media noise from the NFL's ultimate event. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I don't think a team would be allowed to announce until after the Super Bowl. It would steal too much media noise from the NFL's ultimate event.It'd leak before then. There's no way something that big could be kept quiet. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 For the Rams and Raiders to return after all these years would be hilarity of the highest order. Couldn't find much on San Diego's situation except a whole lot of zero progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 For the Rams and Raiders to return after all these years would be hilarity of the highest order. The Rams' existence for most of the 2000s has basically been black comedy in the form of performance art. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 For the Rams and Raiders to return after all these years would be hilarity of the highest order.The Rams' existence for most of the 2000s has basically been black comedy in the form of performance art.Meanwhile, the Raiders' existence for most of the 2000s has basically been black turds in the public toilet, in the form of busts (JaMarcus), over-the-hills (Sapp), many quarterbacks and incompetent coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Deadspin just posted the annual "favorite team by Facebook likes" graphic, and while unscientific it has some interesting data:1) the Raiders got drowned in Northern California but got more Likes from the LA area than any other team; and 2) Jets fans don't comprise a majority of football fans in any county in the nation. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Isn't Oakland bankrupt or on the verge of it on top of still having $200 million to pay off the last stadium renovation from 20 years ago?How can they come close to justifying hundreds of millions for sports teams with the shoddy state of the city.The $120 million Oakland would be responsible for under this deal is what they have left on the Coliseum's renovations. They (reportedly) wouldn't take on any new debt, only have to pay off what they already owe.As these deals go, it wouldn't be bad for the city. Setting aside the problem of the A's.Allegedly, the Athletics have offered to pay that $120 million in exchange for land to build a privately funded park. Source.The Athletics' owners, Lew Wolff and John Fisher, have informally floated their own development proposal which calls for them to absorb the $120 million in current Coliseum debt and provides them land on which to construct offices, hotels and residential buildings, the profits of which would help pay for a privately-financed ballpark. Of course, that plan leaves out any Raiders' stadium.Of course the A's want the development rights which this plan would give to the Raiders. No development rights, no A's ballpark. So we're really back to square one. The city of Oakland needs to decide if they want the Raiders, or the A's. They won't be able to keep both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Deadspin just posted the annual "favorite team by Facebook likes" graphic, and while unscientific it has some interesting data:1) the Raiders got drowned in Northern California but got more Likes from the LA area than any other team; and2) Jets fans don't comprise a majority of football fans in any county in the nation.And this is why the Raiders want to move back to LA. They're STILL LA's team after 20 years of dicking around in obscurity and irrelevance in Oakland. Almost no one in the Bay Area ever wanted them back, and they're still not wanted today. And no one would miss them if they bailed again. The Niners cemented their place as the Bay Area's only relevant football team during the Raiders last absense and it's something the Raiders never have been able to recover from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 And this is why the Raiders want to move back to LA. They're STILL LA's team after 20 years of dicking around in obscurity and irrelevance in Oakland. Almost no one in the Bay Area ever wanted them back, and they're still not wanted today. And no one would miss them if they bailed again. The Niners cemented their place as the Bay Area's only relevant football team during the Raiders last absense and it's something the Raiders never have been able to recover from. Wishcasting ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 And this is why the Raiders want to move back to LA. They're STILL LA's team after 20 years of dicking around in obscurity and irrelevance in Oakland. Almost no one in the Bay Area ever wanted them back, and they're still not wanted today. And no one would miss them if they bailed again. The Niners cemented their place as the Bay Area's only relevant football team during the Raiders last absense and it's something the Raiders never have been able to recover from.WishcastingHow so? The Raiders attendance has been miserable since the day they moved back to Oakland. Blackouts have abounded. The public will never provide them a new stadium and regrets the money they wasted on the team in the 90's. And that map reflects that reality. The Raiders are not at all popular in the Bay Area. Only Oakland pols seem to care they're still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The Jets aren't on the map at all. Does that mean they aren't popular? No. The Raiders are likely second in most 49ers counties in addition to owning L.A.This is a nice opportunity for some random county in Montana or the Dakotas to declare themselves "Jets County" and all switch their Facebook allegiances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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