NFL Merry-Go-Round: Relocation Roundelay

[bosrs1]

So months later, St. Louis is still the only city with a reasonably viable (but still unsettled) stadium plan, but also currently hosts the team most eager to move to LA.

Don't know about that. San Diego has presented a very viable plan that can be accomplished on the league's timetable. The issue in SD is that it's not at the location the Chargers want, but at the same time, the Chargers won't come out and say that's not where they want it. Until they do the city has to proceed with the plan that is best for them in Mission Valley that can be completed the cheapest and quickest. If the Chargers want the much more expensive and much harder to accomplish downtown plan, they need to say so.

You're right to some degree, and probably more up on the plans than I am. But a public vote has to happen to use public money, right? And the Chargers have said they do not support the plans that aim to hold public votes in 2015 because they don't believe they're legally viable.

That's why I'm not sure their plan currently can be considered viable on the NFL's current time table.

Well the team and league have given the city a timetable to work with, before the end of 2015. The city found a way that is legally viable, if controversial to do that. The only alternative is to wait until 2016 and hold the vote as part of a regularly scheduled election when it would be too late. Unless the league wants to admit 2016 would be a feasible timetable for them, the city is working within the constraints the league has mandated. But now the Chargers are claiming they're not ok with that. It's basically been a situation where the Chargers lay down benchmarks, and then when the city finds ways to meet the, the team moves the target.

Unlike say Oakland where they proposed a non-starter of a plan and basically have walked away from even bothering to negotiate because they know their plan is a non-starter. Oakland is the first of the 3 cities to completely give up despite any rhetoric to the contrary.

[IanC]

The Telegraph are running a story today yet again about Tottenhams new stadium and a supposed deal with the NFL.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11725998/Tottenham-close-to-signing-deal-with-NFL-to-stage-American-Football-matches-at-new-61000-seater-stadium.html

Also on the 15th July Tottenham and Haringey council will hold a public meeting about many items regarding the stadium. This includes capacity planning and events to be held at the stadium.

[IanC]

This just announced.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-and-nfl-announcement-080715/

The Club and the NFL today announced that agreement has been reached for a minimum of two NFL games per year to be played during a 10-year partnership at our new stadium in London.

The state-of-the-art stadium, due to open in the summer of 2018, will feature a retractable grass field with an artificial surface underneath that would be used for NFL games. This innovative field will add greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, with the NFL having its own playing surface for games held at the venue. This field will be multi-use and capable of hosting other sporting, entertainment and community events.

Both sports will have dedicated facilities ensuring that the new stadium, designed with a focus on atmosphere, will deliver the optimum experience for both teams and fans. It will be one of the most environmentally sustainable in the UK and also include a clear focus on accessibility via public transportation.

“With growing enthusiasm for the NFL in the United Kingdom, we are committed to hosting NFL games in world-class venues and are excited to partner with Tottenham Hotspur to play games at their future stadium,” said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. “We share a vision and commitment to creating the best experience for our teams, fans and the local community.”

The stadium is part of the Northumberland Development Project which sits at the heart and is the flagship scheme and catalyst for world-class regeneration in North Tottenham that spans over 130 acres and delivers significant benefits for the local community.

The Club will shortly be releasing images and details of the updated designs it has made to both the stadium and the wider scheme.

In addition to the minimum of two games per year at the new Tottenham site, other NFL games may take place at different venues in the UK during the span of the 10-year agreement.

"We have an opportunity now to deliver one of the most unique sports, leisure and entertainment venues in the world, bringing together the EPL and NFL for the first time,” said Daniel Levy, Chairman of Tottenham Hotspur. “The socio- economic benefits this will bring to the area will be immense and demonstrates our commitment to the regeneration of this priority borough in London.

“We have always underlined the importance of public sector support for the long-term regeneration of the area. This support is now clearly in evidence in the masterplans that have been brought forward by the London Borough of Haringey, both through the Northumberland Park project to the east of the stadium and the High Road West scheme. These plans, alongside the commitments made by the Mayor of London and the Greater London Authority to infrastructure and public realm investment, and with the support of Central Government, demonstrate that there is now a collective public and private sector desire to deliver lasting change to the area.

“This was an important factor for the NFL when they agreed to bring their hugely popular sport to Tottenham. I am delighted that we have succeeded in attracting them. We have a compelling and exciting partnership that will play its part as we begin transforming this area of Tottenham.”

Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, welcomed the agreement: “Anyone who has seen American Football at Wembley Stadium cannot fail to have been thrilled by the spectacle, and the wise heads that run the NFL have clearly not missed the fact that Londoners are going absolutely gangbusters for Gridiron.

“We are already working very closely with the NFL, including on plans to get more Londoners involved in the sport, and we believe that building on the success of NFL at Wembley by staging more games in an area of the city that has been earmarked for a massive programme of economic regeneration and investment makes perfect sense.

“Touchdowns in Tottenham can only add to our reputation as a global sporting powerhouse, and help us take another step towards our goal of having a permanent NFL franchise here in London."

Claire Kober, Leader, Haringey Council, added: “It’s tremendous news that the NFL wants to come to Tottenham, joining Spurs in bolstering our borough’s reputation for world-class sport.

“This huge vote of confidence further underlines Tottenham’s future as London’s next great destination, and shows real progress in our dedicated plan to bring economic growth to Haringey – with thousands of fans spending money in local businesses and creating new jobs for our residents.

“In addition to bringing thousands more visitors to Tottenham, having millions of viewers from around the world tuning into live sports from the new Spurs stadium will undoubtedly put our borough on the international stage.”

Populous, the architects of the new stadium, are a world leading sports architecture practice with over 30 years of designing the most iconic sports stadia around the globe. They also have a long history of working with the NFL. Populous has designed 14 NFL stadia and almost 20 NFL training facilities and have played a pivotal role in supporting the NFL in designing and delivering the world’s biggest annual sporting event - the Super Bowl.

[marble21]

[CubsFanBudMan]

The stadium is part of the Northumberland Development Project which sits at the heart and is the flagship scheme and catalyst for world-class regeneration in North Tottenham that spans over 130 acres and delivers significant benefits for the local community.

Is this English for "the stadium will revitalize downtown and spur development"? I need a translator, but this sounded like B.S. I like how they used the word "scheme," though. You'd never see that in America.

[IanC]

The stadium is part of the Northumberland Development Project which sits at the heart and is the flagship scheme and catalyst for world-class regeneration in North Tottenham that spans over 130 acres and delivers significant benefits for the local community.

Is this English for "the stadium will revitalize downtown and spur development"? I need a translator, but this sounded like B.S. I like how they used the word "scheme," though. You'd never see that in America.

The whole area is being redeveloped. Tottenham is currently one of the poorest areas in London. The Club and council are looking to really get a grip with the area apart from the Stadium the plans include.

Supporting 1,800 jobs to supporting 3,500 and from generating £120 million of annual spend into the local economy to over £293 million.

579 new homes, including affordable housing - up from 285 homes in the current permission, meeting a key need for more homes in London. Set out across four new residential buildings, every apartment will enjoy access to a private balcony in addition to communal gardens and child play areas

[marble21]

The stadium is part of the Northumberland Development Project which sits at the heart and is the flagship scheme and catalyst for world-class regeneration in North Tottenham that spans over 130 acres and delivers significant benefits for the local community.

Is this English for "the stadium will revitalize downtown and spur development"? I need a translator, but this sounded like B.S. I like how they used the word "scheme," though. You'd never see that in America.

The Club and council are looking to really get a grip with the area apart from the Stadium the plans include.

To add to what IanC has rightly said the whole Northumberland Development Project is well under way. This can be seen on a recent aerial photo below:

The current stadium is top right. The foundation work on the new stadium can be seen central and the building on the left is a finished building which is part of the project. As well as new housing and jobs there will also be a new primary (elementary) school, technical college (16-18 years old), Sainsbury's supermarket (now open) and just general redevelopment of historic buildings along the main road in an area that has been neglected.

TL;DR: It's not just BS. The community will benefit from this project.

[Evil G]

Can I get a translation from a non-Tottenham fan please?

[2001mark]

...every time I read the thread title on the page, I hear The Simpsons' 'Raisin Roundies' in my head...

...months of that btw...

[buzzcut]

Big news from the LA Times' Sam Farmer: https://twitter.com/LATimesfarmer/status/618965009981292544

Essentially, it's the Coliseum, or bust if anyone wants to move for 2016, since I don't consider Home Depot Center or Dodger Stadium as "viable".

[Gothamite]

Dodger Stadium is absolutely viable as a short-term venue. I personally don't like the idea, but it could work well for a year or two.

But I wonder what happened? They were gung-ho, expanding their schedule.

[4_tattoos]

Thought the Rose Bowl was the go to temporary stadium choice?

[CubsFanBudMan]

"The distraction that the NFL question poses at this time could take away from our collective efforts as a city to realize a music and arts festival," Gordo said. "What you saw from the board today is we don't want that distraction."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-rose-bowl-nfl-20150708-story.html

[buckeye]

The only good choice left is the Coliseum, unless of course they turn it down as well. After that I'd take the StubHub Center just for sightline purposes, but it only holds just under 30000.

[IanC]

Fulham owner Shahid Khan wants to buy Tottenham and relocate Jacksonville Jaguars to White Hart Lane

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/revealed-fulham-owner-shahid-khan-wants-to-buy-tottenham-and-relocate-jacksonville-jaguars-to-white-hart-lane-10380385.html

[Evil G]

Where did he admit this? How reliable is the Standard? I honestly don't believe a guy like Khan who's been so loyal to his city would considering moving his team.

EDIT: Appears to be a false report

[bosrs1]

Thought the Rose Bowl was the go to temporary stadium choice?

It was in the NFL's collective minds. But I guess they forgot to consult with Pasadena. And with the baseball stadia being non-starters and the Stub Hub Center being too small... the Coliseum is really the only option they have. Assuming USC even works something out with them and changes their own lease since currently it only allows for one team.

[C-Squared]

The Chargers move to LA will be looked back upon as the worst-kept secret in the NFL.

[Cosmic]

The Chargers move to LA will be looked back upon as the worst-kept secret in the NFL.

Only if the Rams don't end up moving somehow.

[bosrs1]

Looks like Oakland officials may not even be invited to the August NFL meetings per the LA Times since they still have no official proposal and the one that has been leaked is a non-starter. We may have our first market that is out of the game if their prediction holds true.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-stadium-la-20150713-story.html