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Well, at least they waited until one day after the season so the fans can be secure in the knowledge that in no way was 2015 a lame duck year.

If only the Chargers, Rams and Raiders had filled their stadiums to capacity every game, maybe one of them would have waited until tomorrow to file.

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Dean Spanos released this video on the Chargers website explaining his decision to file for relocation.

http://www.chargers.com/video/2016/01/04/dean-spanos-why-chargers-filed-relocation

Stan Kroenke's Rams released these two sentences:

The St. Louis Rams informed the National Football League today that the Rams propose to relocate to the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area. The relocation would be effective for the 2016 NFL League Year.

The Raiders statement was equally dull:

In accordance with the relocation policies, the Oakland Raiders submitted a relocation package to the NFL. The matter is now in the hands of the NFL’s owners. An owners’ meeting is scheduled to take place in Houston, Texas on January 12 and 13, 2016.

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3 teams vying to play in Los Angeles.

Meanwhile in Los Angeles... nobody cares.

As a resident of Los Angeles County, I'm at the point where my mentality is pretty much for someone to wake me when a team that's not the Raiders actually kicks the ball off in the Coliseum or whatever temporary venue they're put in. Not even unpacking moving vans will be good enough as the Seahawks technically moved here before the NFL fined them and made them reverse course. I'm just sick of the NFL being the Lucy to our Charlie Brown.

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Welp, at least at this point we know this much - no matter how it shakes out, barring something completely unexpected today (e.g., the Raiders agreeing to relocate to St. Louis or San Diego) there's going to be at least one of these teams that's going to have to go back to its current city and sell tickets in a few months... and my guess is, that will be one hard sell.

Oh, and I guess I'll be the first to refer to these guys as...

The Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego

The Los Angeles Raiders of Oakland, and

The Los Angeles Rams of St. Louis.

:D

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Welp, at least at this point we know this much - no matter how it shakes out, barring something completely unexpected today (e.g., the Raiders agreeing to relocate to St. Louis or San Diego) there's going to be at least one of these teams that's going to have to go back to its current city and sell tickets in a few months... and my guess is, that will be one hard sell.

Oh, and I guess I'll be the first to refer to these guys as...

The Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego

The Los Angeles Raiders of Oakland, and

The Los Angeles Rams of St. Louis.

:D

That's the very first thing I thought of when I heard all three filed...

Someone is most likely going to go back to its fanbase and say "just kidding." The PR will be interesting..."we never intended to move, but, uh, you know, wanted, um, to keep our, uh, options open or something."

It's interesting that all three teams have history in LA.

Predictions? Many people that frequent this thread follow this stuff A LOT closer than I do. So maybe someone has a sense of whether any of these teams has a leg-up, stadium-wise, to stay.

Gun to my head, I'd pick St. Louis to stay. Moving the other two keeps it all in California and probably does not really mess with taking any regions of the country "out" of the league. St. Louis would leave a small hole. But that's just one tiny rationale from someone not following the stadium situations.

As much as I hate relocation, I am really, really going to be glad when the LA bargaining chip is gone.

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As much as I hate relocation, I am really, really going to be glad when the LA bargaining chip is gone.

That will be good, however the London, England bargaining chip will be the new craze.

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The Raiders would still be embraced if they returned. Davis has publically expressed that he wants to stay in Oakland, but doesn't have any money. The Chargers and Rams would be returning to a new stadium deal, so the fans would get over it in short order. Also, like what happened with the Seahawks after the attempted LA move (which I just learned of from LMU!), the team would probably be sold shortly thereafter.

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I think it's currently 60/40 St. Louis is the city that keeps it's team.

Whether it's desirable or not, St. Louis is the only city with an actionable plan on the table. The NFL doesn't have to accept that plan (and they in fact can't make the Rams accept it) to acknowledge that and say it's worth continuing to work on.

Dean Spanos also has many more owners on his side and has convinced many of them he has a more compelling reason to move.

At the same time, though, Kroenke is rich as balls and usually gets what he wants. Most of the other richest owners are on his side even though they're fewer in number. It wouldn't shock me to see them find a way to turn the tables.

So that's my take: 60/40 that the Rams stay in St. Louis and the Raiders and Chargers relocate to LA (Carson). Not exactly a prediction with confidence, though.

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Excuse my ignorance but I assume there are going to be 3 separate votes for the 3 teams. So, hypothetically, all 3 teams could be approved to be in L.A. next year?

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Kroenke's making his first move. Inglewood stadium's getting built regardless of what the league decides.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morning_call/2016/01/kroenke-building-l-a-stadium-with-or-without-nfl.html

I was just going to post this. This is a big time power play move by him.

By saying this, he's essentially saying that any business the Carson stadium expected to draw outside of NFL football is going to face some stiff competition. As a result, it would likely be less profitable.

Now, is this accurate or is it just posturing? That's the question. Will they call his bluff and risk it?

It'd be a stronger play if he actually had shovels in the ground. (He does for the site, but not for the stadium itself.) But even without that, it still makes things interesting.

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I kinda half expect all three teams to get rejected and we end up back at square one because, "We need to give it more time. $$$$$." or whatever.

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Whether it's desirable or not, St. Louis is the only city with an actionable plan on the table.

Yes, that's the standard line, but until St. Louis actually comes up with all the financing it just ain't so. :P

Excuse my ignorance but I assume there are going to be 3 separate votes for the 3 teams. So, hypothetically, all 3 teams could be approved to be in L.A. next year?

Theoretically, yes. There will be three votes, but everybody knows the Chargers and Raiders are a package deal, lacking the funds to move individually. So we'd expect those two votes to be identical, and then there's the vote on the Rams.

As for Kroenke's move, it seems like a pretty strong statement. Vote to allow the move, or be prepared for a fight. Will that convince anyone on the fence? Don't know. I still think he'll probably need to work a deal with Davis or Spanos if he wants to win a vote.

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Where's this hole that leaving St. Louis would make? There are numerous NFL teams within hours of St. Louis, not to mention plenty of Here There Be College Football territory that isn't worth fighting for in the first place.

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If we're doing predictions, then I think it'll be the Rams and Chargers in LA, playing in the Inglewood stadium with the NFL helping the Raiders build a stadium in Oakland.

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